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Qweeg, I live in the larger community that the American Gov'Mint, in it's infernal wisdom, decided to use as a test case for syphilus. To see what it's effects are and if it could be used as a BW. They purposely infected, redirected, and faked treatment of it among the blacks around here for over 40 years.

Then there's the cover up it's done of the Brownsferry Nuclear Plant's core fire and partial meltdown. That's unit 3 for those that care. The only difference between Brownsferry and Chernobol? We burnt the core, and we covered it up better. BTW, they are trying to restart that unit to production power. Which is in itself a violation of the Nuclear Guidelines and Federal Law, but hey... Don't be surprised if everyone in North Alabama, Tennessee, and North Georgia are killed or lethally irradiated sometime soon. (The Jetstream would carry the radioactivity right through Atlanta, and lower level winds would help make sure Nashville, Memphis, and Chattanoga are dead as well. Or we may just make a new volcano in a very geologically stressed but stable area... Whee!)

I see our government at work every day. I work with and for them. Trust me, they cannot manage much. If anything, the bumbling is because the government really is one big idiocy in motion. Now, there are sharp/wicked people and their groups, and that's where the governments ability to do things comes from.
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Old 21-08-2002, 12:13:42   #210
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Stepford, maybe Stetford I dunno, robotic people designed for the convenience of the ruling elite.
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Qweeg, I live in the larger community that the American Gov'Mint, in it's infernal wisdom, decided to use as a test case for syphilus. To see what it's effects are and if it could be used as a BW. They purposely infected, redirected, and faked treatment of it among the blacks around here for over 40 years.

Then there's the cover up it's done of the Brownsferry Nuclear Plant's core fire and partial meltdown. That's unit 3 for those that care. The only difference between Brownsferry and Chernobol? We burnt the core, and we covered it up better. BTW, they are trying to restart that unit to production power. Which is in itself a violation of the Nuclear Guidelines and Federal Law, but hey... Don't be surprised if everyone in North Alabama, Tennessee, and North Georgia are killed or lethally irradiated sometime soon. (The Jetstream would carry the radioactivity right through Atlanta, and lower level winds would help make sure Nashville, Memphis, and Chattanoga are dead as well. Or we may just make a new volcano in a very geologically stressed but stable area... Whee!)

I see our government at work every day. I work with and for them. Trust me, they cannot manage much. If anything, the bumbling is because the government really is one big idiocy in motion. Now, there are sharp/wicked people and their groups, and that's where the governments ability to do things comes from.
I agree most with your last point Darkstar, its groups and clubs and cabals and agencies and thinktanks within the soft slushy body of the big dumb government that actually do all the evil mustache-twiddling Nimitz Class Godfather stuff.
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Hey, if you want to see our former colonial oppressors complain about us without response go ahead. I for one will not stand here and see them bad mouth the United States of America!
Look walrus, I like that I can always depend on you [at least] to stand up and be counted whenever I engage in one of my anti-American rants, and I'm sure you enjoy defending the place as much as I enjoy pointing out all it's dirty little habits.

I have provided proof of my wild accusations to my own satisfaction, and now feel free to shoot my mouth off at random targets of opportunity that may occur to me as to why America is bad (so long as it's stuff America actuall did)

But-

I also respect and understand though that you could never admit you secretly agree with me, specially as you think I'd take that to mean you agree that America should be banned too ( I don't think it should be banned- just humiliated and pointed at every now an then by the rest of the world whenever its been a bad bad super-power, and must be made to learn to do better and be more sociable in future)

I'm still not sure what exactly America thinks Governments are for, what everybody else calls government- alot of Americans seem to call socialism (and then sneer). I guess alot of you guy's think government is like the Mall-Manager in a Mall or something, but hey... there's nothing wrong with that- if that's your way. Everybody knows America is not so much a country as... a place of business (a place to make money where nobody sucks the blood outta your veins to feed lousy bums, or tries to tell you what to do or how many guns you can own damnit!).

Anyway, whatever you post in reply to this- well, I understand you have to say that- and secretly wish your country hadn't done some of that- erm... unpleasantness.

In short, I won- you know it, I know it- lets move on.

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Then why did you quote my whole post? You could have just clipped the rest.
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Then why did you quote my whole post? You could have just clipped the rest.
I simply required over eighty percent of your post to make my five percent point.



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If you want to continue to appease Saddam be my guest, it worked so well in 1939.
*blatantly jumping into the discussion without reading the thread*

Sorry, walrus, but comparing Husein to Hitler is ridiculous, and you should know that. Saddam doesn't have plans for world domination. Saddam can't invade anything with impunity - and he quite probably knows that. See the difference?
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Walrus has been repremanded by myself for his ridiculous beliefs already Drekkus, no need to over-do it now, I already won you see, so show some mercy.
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*blatantly jumping into the discussion without reading the thread*

Sorry, walrus, but comparing Husein to Hitler is ridiculous, and you should know that. Saddam doesn't have plans for world domination. Saddam can't invade anything with impunity - and he quite probably knows that. See the difference?
I would counter that Hussein will soon have the capability to kill millions in a reltively short time putting him on the same scale as Hitler but, my analogy was more towards the fact that you don't stop madmen with appeasement. You stop them by removing them and I would rather have him stopped now rather than after he has had a chance to use a few devices.
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Walrus has been repremanded by myself for his ridiculous beliefs already Drekkus, no need to over-do it now, I already won you see, so show some mercy.
Are you also showing delusions like your buddy Saddam?
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I understand your need to say that.
I still love you though. I always believe in redemption of lost souls.
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I would counter that Hussein will soon have the capability to kill millions in a reltively short time putting him on the same scale as Hitler but, my analogy was more towards the fact that you don't stop madmen with appeasement. You stop them by removing them and I would rather have him stopped now rather than after he has had a chance to use a few devices.
I can hardly see him using that capability unless in retaliation/defense. He isn't a statesman for nothing you know - he can do the risk calculation. I can hardly see him using ABC weapons out of whimsy.
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That is where we differ, I think he is perfectly capable of doing so. You argue as if he was governed by the same standards you use. He is not and that is why he is dangerous to everyone.
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He has demonstrated in the past that he will use chemical weapons. He has demonstrated a need to engage in conflict and he refuses to adhere to agreements he has signed. All in all he is a rogue that is more than capable of either using nuclear weapons directly or make them available to his "friends" for use. I rather not see that happen.
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As you know, I have already declared myself the winner of this argument- and therefore have nothing to say......>must...resist....<

And anyway it is a different argument >sighhhhhh<
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[...]my analogy was more towards the fact that you don't stop madmen with appeasement. You stop them by removing them[...]
it's all very well having this nice little interventionist policy of yours, but it will mean america being at war for the next thousand years (presumably this will mean america is much happier and freer than by 'appeasing' madmen)

I hear mugabe is the next target - good luck, the US' african adventures have been hilarious so far (you can make another black hawk down too)
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I doubt a thousand years, a couple perhaps but then in a war on terrorism you need some backbone and resolve. Appeasement is easy, although you pay a much higher price in the end.
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it's all very well having this nice little interventionist policy of yours, but it will mean america being at war for the next thousand years (presumably this will mean america is much happier and freer than by 'appeasing' madmen)

I hear mugabe is the next target - good luck, the US' african adventures have been hilarious so far (you can make another black hawk down too)
Really? they wanna do Zimbyland too? nah... don't beleive ya.

Really though, really?
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We are concerned. Aren't you with what's going on there?
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My god- it's true........ *closes mouth* America's appetite for conquest know's no bounds.

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We are concerned. Aren't you with what's going on there?
presumably when you say we you mean the good people of america

well i don't know how much the good people of america know about zimbabwe but i'm sure your neo-colonial meddling will have the same positive impact as that of the original colonialists

why don't you accept that trying to be some kind of global police force is a waste of time?
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presumably when you say we you mean the good people of america

well i don't know how much the good people of america know about zimbabwe but i'm sure your neo-colonial meddling will have the same positive impact as that of the original colonialists

why don't you accept that trying to be some kind of global police force is a waste of time?
Global Godfather I think you mean, a Godfather that owns the local police dept (the UN, NATO) as well as everything else (IMF, World Bank, WTO etc)
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you're avoiding the question

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There was a real question there? Look, if we don't do anything you'll whine about how we don't care. Make up your minds already and stop being inconsistent in your whining.
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i'm not being inconsistent about anything - you must have me confused with one of the other drekkus avatars
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