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Old 14-06-2002, 10:36:03   #1
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USA Group (D) Final matches

I'm amazed that being USAmericans one of the biggest posters colony here, and having their soccer team the chance to top their WC achievements, i.e. qualifiying for the round of 16 by winning theire group (leave alone the 3rd/4th place they got in the 1st "invitational" edition with only 4 european teams...), no USposter had started this last Groups final matches thread yet...
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Old 14-06-2002, 10:48:01   #3
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Matches to be started in less than 1 hour.

Korea-Portugal
USA-Poland

Standings
Kor 4, +2 diff, 3 goals scored
USA 4, +1 diff, 4 goals
Por 3, +3 diff, 6 goals

The 1st of the group meets Italy in the round of 16 (then Spain?)
The 2nd meets Mexico (then Germany?)

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Korea win (> Potugal lose)

1st Korea
2nd USA
unless USA wins too in which case they'll have to break the tie, Kor starts ahead on diff anyway

Portugal win (> Korea lose)

1st USA if they win
2nd Portugal

1st Portugal
2nd USA if they draw

1st Portugal
2nd Kor/USA if they lose, depending on how bad both teams lose lose, Kor starts ahead.

Korea-Portugal draw

1st USA if they win
2nd Korea

1st Korea
2nd USA if they draw

1st Korea
2nd Portugal
if USA lose
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Old 14-06-2002, 10:49:18   #5
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Old 14-06-2002, 10:58:10   #6
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Seeing it the other way round, from USA PoV:

If USA win they're thru and possibly as 1st unless Kor wins too in which case goals diff / #

If they draw they go thru as 2nd in any case

If USA lose, they must hope that Kor-Por do NOT draw, or they're out.
With a Kor win they'd be 2nd.
With a Kor loss they'd have to fight for qualification on goals diff / #
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Old 14-06-2002, 11:00:18   #7
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So I want Portugal to win by not very much and USA to lose by loads so Portugal and Korea go through.
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Go USA!
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OTOH I noticed I still have Dudek as my keeper

Ok, I don't give a damn. Go USA!
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So I want Portugal to win by not very much and USA to lose by loads so Portugal and Korea go through.
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Old 14-06-2002, 11:31:01   #11
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OTOH I noticed I still have Dudek as my keeper

Ok, I don't give a damn. Go USA!
It's OK, he's been dropped for this game.
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GOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL!

Poland 1-0 USA.
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Funko, change your avatar to the USA national team and bring them luck like you did the canes.
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Yeah. Damn Poles.
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Old 14-06-2002, 11:41:51   #18
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Korea and Portugal go through at the moment.
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It must be because they're not playing in the old England kit.
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Olisadebe scored. He's in my Fantasy Golden Boot team and he finally scores in his last match.
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Old 14-06-2002, 11:57:18   #21
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At this point, if USA don't score, they must hope in a Portugal win by 3-0 to regain their berth in the 16.
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If USA lose 0-2, and Korea lose 1-4, there will be draw lots to see which goes thru.
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High tackle, he's been sent off.
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Korea had a goal disallowed.
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If korea scores US is still through?
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João Pinto, what a git... and some of the other Portuguese players should've been booked for getting in the ref's face like that.
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Old 14-06-2002, 12:06:55   #31
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I just wanted to hear it again.
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Old 14-06-2002, 12:07:01   #32
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As bad as they were in the Semi against France?
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"Now Agoos fouls clumsily"

Isn't there ANYONE else who could play instead of Agoos? He truly is shit.
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Old 14-06-2002, 12:08:55   #34
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He's horrible. He's been horrible for 34 years. I bet at least 1 of the two goals was his fault. Probably both.
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Doesn't seem like the teams are too interested. Certainly not Portugal .
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Old 14-06-2002, 12:18:45   #37
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Old 14-06-2002, 12:20:09   #39
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Of course, now that we're getting our asses kicked I have to root for Korea to win.
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Doesn't seem like the teams are too interested. Certainly not Portugal .
With the damn USA suiciding there is no point for them to risk anything. Especially now that Portugal are in ten.
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He got substituted after that.
Did the situation improve somewhat then?
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Old 14-06-2002, 12:27:28   #43
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He's not on the field at all. At least we've got that going for us now.
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And we had a goal called back? What the fuck is up with that? Goddamn Chinese offcial.
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Old 14-06-2002, 12:38:59   #47
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Yeah, unless USA equalise,
Korea is already 1st, and scoring wold have the only effect to eliminate Portugal and revive USA.
Portugal scoring would have the effect of changing rosters with Korea in the 16, that is to take on Italy instead of Mexico...
and unless they win with 3 goals that wouldn't be useful to USA.
Of course Portugal would be more cautious now that they're in 10 men.
OTOH for both sides, but especially for Portugal, scoring wold be a mean to achieve some safety, lest the other side scores and eliminates you.

So if not on their strength, USA should rely on two teams who have no immediate interest in scoring a goal and that would rather care more to avoid suffering one.
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At least the Koreans are going forward a bit more now...
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Another Portugal player sent off...
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Beto gets his second yellow and Portugal are down to 9.
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