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Old 24-06-2016, 06:22:30   #1
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Brexit

That will be interesting.
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Old 24-06-2016, 09:14:36   #2
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I feel very sad today.

It's an odd situation many people genuinely happy that we've committed economic suicide.

Leave campaign have already backtracked on a lot of 'promises' e.g. we can give all the money we save to the NHS. Funnily enough the mostly pro-NHS privatisation leave camp have suddenly changed their tune on that already this morning.

Hoping for Boris + renegotiation + 2nd referendum.
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Old 24-06-2016, 09:28:24   #3
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2nd referendum: Maybe, but might give another "leave"

Most likely: UK or what remains will stay in the EEA. Economic effects will be quite mild in that case. Problem: May cause other member states to look at "just EEA" option, so integrationists should block this. Just that I'm quite sure those whiny suckers won't have the balls for that.
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Old 24-06-2016, 10:31:10   #4
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yesterday nite going to bed at 1am our local Brexit TV marathon was still saying polls/projections had Remain ahead 52%...

I didn't even bother to check till now

will this mean I'd have to get a visa next time I want to invade?
not that I had it in my plans anyway

biggest impact for me will be probably regarding Fantasy Premier League
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Most likely: UK or what remains will stay in the EEA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Economic_Area



revise this now



I ssay: put them out there with Kazakhstan!
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Well, that's all quite simple....
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Old 24-06-2016, 11:32:34   #7
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... is just another word for nothing left to lose....
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Old 24-06-2016, 14:06:37   #9
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Old 24-06-2016, 15:30:23   #10
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Agreed. And conversely everything to gain.

Agreed. Before they bounce all the way back. (The island is still Great Britain. Even if Scotland tries to run away again.)
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2nd referendum: Maybe, but might give another "leave"

Most likely: UK or what remains will stay in the EEA. Economic effects will be quite mild in that case. Problem: May cause other member states to look at "just EEA" option, so integrationists should block this. Just that I'm quite sure those whiny suckers won't have the balls for that.
Yeah, I think we're in a really weak position now.

Numerous videos of people on the news saying they voted leave but are shocked the vote went leave and that Cameron left and regret it. Even more depressing.
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Old 24-06-2016, 16:15:32   #13
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Old 24-06-2016, 16:28:20   #14
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Yeah, I think we're in a really weak position now.
Not really. You just have to dress up Johnson as Erdogan, and Merkel will give him everything he wants.
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Crap. Got the mobilization call today, there goes my new job. Fuelling up bombers and stuff. Fuck
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Damn Brits leaving is gonna wreck the stock market for a bit.
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Old 24-06-2016, 20:09:28   #18
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Old 24-06-2016, 21:44:22   #19
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Sad day for sane non-xeonphobic pro-euro Brits.

Side effect, fall in Sterling causes Counterglow hosting costs to rise. EVERYONE IS BANNED! /note not asking for money here!
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Yeah, I think we're in a really weak position now.

Numerous videos of people on the news saying they voted leave but are shocked the vote went leave and that Cameron left and regret it. Even more depressing.
Oerdin submitted a "workable" solution on Poly:

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An alternative suggestion to help the UK get a better deal.

The two year time frame for an article 50 withdrawal does not start ticking until the UK submits papers saying it wants to withdraw yet any negotiations are likely to take longer than two years. Worse the European Commission has arrogantly declared they will not treat the UK fairly and that they wish to punish them for daring to say no to them. I believe an alternative approach is required to make them change their minds and insure the UK gets an over all better deal.

My suggestion is to not submit article 50 papers, to declare this will not be done until negotiations are completed on terms satisfactory to the UK. Further more, announce that the UK will veto absolutely every piece of legislation, I mean everything, until such a time as the UK gets an exit deal which is more advantageous to it than the current membership deal.

Bring the whole ****ing system to a stand still, make sure even the most basic day to day stuff no longer functions, and say it will all stop when we get what we want but until then **** the E. C. and its a total shut down. The best way to deal with a bully is to find something he values and then twist the knife until he agrees to stop bullying you.

I certainly believe this would bring about better results than asking pretty please while Junckers and his fellow **** stains scream never at the UK. If they truly do love Europe or even just their own power in Europe than eventually they will be forced to deal. Failing that just keep shitting in the punch bowl and pissing in the E. C. 's face until they eventually pay you to leave.

Just my $0.02 on hard negotiating tactics.
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Old 25-06-2016, 05:58:38   #21
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Hey, with the European Commission talking about punishing the UK and making them an example so other countries do not follow then maybe a bit of hard ball is exactly what is needed? How would you prefer them to respond? Just accept the EC trying to fuck them over and not do anything about it?

You fight a bully by finding something they value and then being a cunt right back to them. By not submitting the article 50 papers until the EEA treaty is finalized the two year clock never starts ticking so that means the EC can't just wait the UK out and keep refusing everything.
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Old 25-06-2016, 12:26:51   #22
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Where's Zorba?

I know he read this, he's throwing a right fit over it at Poly right now.
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Old 25-06-2016, 19:20:24   #23
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Well, things aren't working like little Oerdin imagines.

First, only very few areas of EU legislation are subject to a "veto".

Second, if the UK does not start the Art 50 procedure, what's the point of the referendum? If they don't, nothing changes legally - just politically, the UK is completely isolated. Very easy for the EU-27 to sit this out.

Third, why should the other 27 states give the UK extra sausages when the UK has just effectively told them to fuck off?

Fourth, what is supposed ro be unfair? That you get membership privileges without membership obligations? Not going to happen, beats the whole idea.
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Ah yes, fifth: EEA would be funny. You get about half the goodies for 80% of the obligations. Only worthwhile if the shitheads triad of Merkel/Juncker/Schulz continue hellbent on promoting illegal immigration. But they will be history soon.
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Personally, I would have them delay until the EEA is fully spelled out then have a second vote. If they can get any concessions (such as requiring migrants to work full time for a year to gwt risidency before qualifying for social benefits) then so much the better.

That is a badly need reform in any event plus the EU benefits by not losing 20% of its budget so it is win-win.
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I don't know much but it seems to me that Russia is having a few chuckles over the Brexit. What a strategic windfall.
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Where's Zorba?

I know he read this, he's throwing a right fit over it at Poly right now.
Oh, yes, he was. Five or six posts in a row of unhinged word salad.
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Ah yes, fifth: EEA would be funny. You get about half the goodies for 80% of the obligations. Only worthwhile if the shitheads triad of Merkel/Juncker/Schulz continue hellbent on promoting illegal promotion. But they will be history soon.
Given how poorly the EU economy is doing right now you'd think they wouldn't want to get into a protectionist trade war but I guess not judging by what people like the French Finance Minister have been saying.
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I meant illegal immigration, not promotion.

No EEA does not mean "trade war". For example, the EU has all kinds of bilateral agreements (Switzerland) or association agreements. If the UK would become a third country like say Mexico there would still be the WTO.
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The CG brits are no real brits. The constant german EU propaganda here - and cheap beer on the continent - has spoilt their common sense.
Every sane person must admit that being caught in a european trade network means death to the local financial industry. Also: stupid EU regulations like the recent banning of Glyphosate is a typical sign of EU fascism. It's only logical to give up the weak political influence the UK had in the EU - and to return to the powerful 20th century status (WW1, WW2, Falklands!).
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Hm? We own Europe, so what invasion plans?
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Is oerdin here talking his usual crap again?
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I only visited London when I was little.
It's time to go back and be at the "center of developments"

It is indeed sad but again not so much.

Now I'll make a cup of coffe and read dyl's comments
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Exactly what I said minus the immigration thing
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The CG brits are no real brits. The constant german EU propaganda here - and cheap beer on the continent - has spoilt their common sense.
Every sane person must admit that being caught in a european trade network means death to the local financial industry. Also: stupid EU regulations like the recent banning of Glyphosate is a typical sign of EU fascism. It's only logical to give up the weak political influence the UK had in the EU - and to return to the powerful 20th century status (WW1, WW2, Falklands!).
Falklands always sounded to me like faklands which I think is a more interesting name
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Now, if I may be so bold, that's not how you do a referendum.

Firstly, the referendum is never, ever about the question posed.

It's always about internal political struggles.

Having this as a basis,
Secondly you never put a concrete question in the poll.
You put something abstract and, basing this on the notorious contructive ambiguity of the EU, you can then manipulate the end result in the way that best fits your interests without having condemned the whole country.

Next, you need to have atleast 2000 years between the present and your most recent mega-power period. If it's only 60 years the mind gets fuzzied.

Politics.
Nothing concrete but the accusations.
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Mari(n)e Le Pen wants Frexit
Salvini wants ESCITA (wait wasn't that a song contest? )
mr_G wants Nexit, which would leave us with Belux (or maybe Flaned & Wallux)
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