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Old 19-08-2014, 08:15:20   #51
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Old 19-08-2014, 08:16:06   #52
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A friend on another forum pointed me at this site:

http://totalfpl.com/pricechanges

Shows that Fab will go up in price today I think.
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Old 19-08-2014, 09:20:45   #53
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TEAM    gw   S B  0    S  C  B   Bench   Hi  thn B   Team    C  B

4-1-6   67  11 -  -   57 10  -   1,3,1   11  1       70      1  2
Belmont 64  10 1  -   41 10 13   2,3     13  1,1     70      3  3

Balls   54  11 -  -   47  7  -   -,2,1    8  1       56      1  1
Trollsl 52  10 1  -   44  6  2   -,3     10  1       58      4  2
Top6fin 51  11 -  -   41 10  -   9,1,-   10  1       59      -  8
Stairwl 49  11 -  -   48  1  -   3,13,5  11  1,2,2   77     12 16

Glum Fb 41   9 1  1   33  7  1   -,13     7  (1),2   58      6 11
Schubbe 40  10 1  -   35  2  3   -,2     13  1       52     11  1
Monkeys 38  10 1  -   35  2  1   1,1     10  -       46      8  -

AVERAGE 50.7        42.3 6.1 4.0  7.1   10.3        60.7    5.1 4.9
 Totals        5  1                          14p/11
This is probably a one-off analisys for first GW, to help me get the hang of all the details and standards of the "new toy"

also, I realise now that at the end of the GW, when the automatic subs are finalised they actually swap players between pitch and bench, so there's no track left of which subs were actually made
I won't be able thus to detail how many players and points got in from the bench for all the league teams, unless I note them down before GW ends...

The St[arters] Hi column helps me point out which could have been the best Captain choice
(notwithstanding that if an even better scorer sits on bench, I count him anyway as "ideal Captain")
The "worse than Bench" help me point how wich players on pitch could have been replaced in the initial pick by better scorers sitting on bench

Stairwell: excellent market, terrible pitch managing

Glum: bought 3 £4.5 defenders (risky market strategy?), just one thereof scored a mere 1p; plus, their most expensive one appears to be the 5th in Mou's pecking order so he didn't play either. Thus O'Shea 1p couldn't have been benched anyway in the "ideal 11" for Sigurd (Mid) bc of the 3 defenders rule, but Rodwell 2p could.

Balls: barely average market, made the best of it (less margin of error too )

Monkey me: I didn't waste any points on bench, just because I had the worst bench available
with all my data analisys about past season FPL performers, my lack of real insights in BPL led me the same to a rather poor initial market
I had indeed in my watchlist 4 or 5 players who DID score well in this first GW, but hadn't the courage, or simply took the wrong decisions
(e.g. just Dzeko instead of Lukaku would have already been 3p more)
And just appointing Rooney Captain (which wasn't a difficult choice) instead of Lukaku were 5p more, 43p would have been 7th in the league and totally acceptable for a rookie.
I'd say I'll do better next GWs, but either I must hope that my most expensive signings just had a bad day on season opener, or I need to actually CHANGE my squad with transfers... as I posted above, I didn't want to spend my wildcard too early...
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there's no track left of which subs were actually made
I won't be able thus to detail how many players and points got in from the bench for all the league teams, unless I note them down before GW ends...
I stand corrected

only later I scrolled down enough to see the following section
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A friend on another forum pointed me at this site:

http://totalfpl.com/pricechanges

Shows that Fab will go up in price today I think.
very nice, thanks!

QUESTION:

Rises occur by £0.1 per day
so once you see a player went up one day, he's done for that day
I think I read somewhere that the time of the day when rises occur is "variable" (?) and won't be disclosed
BUT: do all rises for a given day happen at the same time?

Example:
Monday (yesterday) only Sigurdsson went up
Tuesday (todady) I see that Dier went up
Can there be more rises occuring today, later in the day???
Can you have in the same day one player[s] rising in the morning, and another player[s] rising in the afternoon?

Or today, after just Dier having a price rise, we're done for the day and no other price rises will occur till tomorrow?

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Fuck it, I did it.

8 points down for the week, every year the same mistake. Idiot.
that's why you insisted so much in inviting me into FPL: to share the shame with a fellow idiot!
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Or today, after just Dier having a price rise, we're done for the day and no other price rises will occur till tomorrow?

thanks
That's a very good question, I don't know. Now I've got access to that site I might be able to track it.
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Old 19-08-2014, 13:02:39   #58
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TEAM DEPTH

another possibly interesting analisys coming to my mind for this first GW,
is to simply list each team player points in descending order

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TEAM    gw   Pitch                       Bench (AFTER subs)

Top     73  13 13 10  6 5 5 3 3  2 2 1

4-1-6   67  11 10 10  5 5 5 3 3  2 2 1   1  1  3  1
Belmont 64  13 13 10  6 3 2 2 2  1 1 1   -  -  2  3

Balls   54   8  7  6  6 5 5 3 3  2 2 1   -  -  2  1
Trollsl 52  10  9  6  6 5 2 2 2  2 1 1   2  -  -  3
Top6fin 51  10  7  6  5 2 2 2 2  2 2 1   2  9  1  -
Stairwl 49  11 10  7  5 4 2 2 2  2 2 1   -  3 13  5

Glum Fb 41   7  6  5  5 3 2 2 2  1 1 -   2  -  - 13
Schubbe 40  13  7  4  3 2 2 2 2  1 1 1   -  -  -  2
Monkeys 38  10  7  5  3 2 2 2 2  1 1 1   -  -  1  1

Bottom  31   7  6  4  3 2 2 2 2  1 1 -
(I realise now in previous table that Glum have "wasted" 1pt more with GKP lol)
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Old 19-08-2014, 15:16:04   #59
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I think I read somewhere that the time of the day when rises occur is "variable" (?) and won't be disclosed
BUT: do all rises for a given day happen at the same time?
Can there be more rises occuring today, later in the day???
Or today, after just Dier having a price rise, we're done for the day and no other price rises will occur till tomorrow?
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That's a very good question, I don't know. Now I've got access to that site I might be able to track it.
iNTERESTING

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18/08/2014 02:45  Swansea  Sigurdsson, Gylfi  MID 6.1 Price increase from 6.0 to 6.1	
19/08/2014 02:45  Tottenham  Dier, Eric       DEF 5.1 Price increase from 5.0 to 5.1
BOTH rises so far occurred exactly at 2:45 AM...
BTW, do you confirm that more than one player can get an increase on the same day, or just one player each day gets the increase?
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Definitely more than one player can change on a day.

I guess it's a scheduled overnight job then. Most of their updates run on scheduled jobs and take ages to run.
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do .BAT still exist? lol

so we can check for changes in the morning, and that's it for the day...
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more tables...

Code:
            GKP       DEF              MID                FWD
TEAM    gw  £    pts  £    pts         £    pts           £    pts 

4-1-6   67  10.0 2 1  30.0 10 5 5 2 1  37.0 11 10  3 3 3  21.5 5 1 1
Belmont 64   9.5 2 -  28.0  2 2 1 1 -  36.5 13 13 10 3 3  25.5 6 2 1

Balls   54   9.5 2 -  25.0  8 5 2 1 -  32.0  5  3  3 1 1  32.5 7 6 6
Trollsl 52   9.0 2 2  25.0  5 2 1 - -  37.0 10  9  3 2 1  29.0 6 6 2
Top6fin 51   9.0 2 2  27.0  9 5 2 2 1  38.0 10  2  2 1 -  26.0 7 6 2
Stairwl 49   9.0 2 -  26.0  5 5 4 3 2  40.5 13 11 10 2 2  24.5 7 2 1

Glum Fb 41  10.0 2 1  25.0  5 1 - - -  38.5 13  5  3 2 2  26.5 7 6 2
Schubbe 40   9.5 1 -  28.5  4 2 1 1 -  35.5 13  3  2 2 -  26.5 7 2 2
Monkeys 38   8.5 1 -  28.5 10 5 2 1 -  36.0  3  2  2 1 1  27.0 7 2 1
imho this is interesting for highlighting the different strategies we adopted, and the related yields
of course you see how some could get more pts in a sector by spending less, and viceversa... you still have to nake the right picks
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a few more today

next expected, a second increase for Sigurdsson
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I know, I was just having a flash of archeotechnology (or technoarcheology?)

BTW, I see (in "Status") there are teams worth £100.6
I peeked into one out of curiosity, and in GW1 he had none of the 6 players who got the increase so far.
This means he made 6 transfers in first GW, all before each increase occurred
I presume he spent his WC for that
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I noticed you're in this too

So I went there (look what you've made me do after yeeeears), which btw you happen to co-moderate,
in case I could find a thread with the code to join...
but could find none, just NFL "football" and other US-based sports...



did you use the name for private use outside "that site" itself?

I thought, At least I wouldn't be last in that league
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Furious i was astute enough to include Sigurdsson in my squad but had him on the bench. Real kick in the teeth. At least it means i don't have to use a sub bringing him in. He's 6.2 at time of writing too. Happy with rest of my squad though so for once not needing to consider lots of changes at this point. Need to pick a better captain for the next Gameweek though.
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I noticed you're in this too

So I went there (look what you've made me do after yeeeears), which btw you happen to co-moderate,
in case I could find a thread with the code to join...
but could find none, just NFL "football" and other US-based sports...



did you use the name for private use outside "that site" itself?

I thought, At least I wouldn't be last in that league
There is a league there, not sure what the code is. I'm not the administrator of it.

I am theoretically a moderator, I haven't visited the site for a few months though.
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thanks, I was actually referring to the one listed in your page (and Iain's too)...
you're in a league and you don't know?

maybe you automatically renewed one you entered seasons ago, but now you don't care anymore to follow it?

I don't recognise the names of most of its members... so if it's not one you're also actively follwoing, it would be nice to have the code anyway but not a primal need...
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about upcoming GW2, according to TFPL Kolarov is not set to start
due to Zabaleta coming back into the 11 (why was he on the bench in GW1 btw?) Kolarov and not clichy is foreseen to leave him room
apart Koscielny & Rooney he's the only one in my original 15 not showing a "red progress" on TFPL....

BTW, all new signings (Rojo, Fer, F.Fernandez, Edu Vargas, Samaras...) already available in the tranfers page! but Rojo "Cannot play against Sunderland on 24/8 as he has yet to receive a work permit. - Expected back 30 Aug" lol

Will Balo be available tomorrow morning before GW2 deadline?
does he still have fans in BPL?
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due to Zabaleta coming back into the 11 (why was he on the bench in GW1 btw?)
I suspect City turnover bullshit
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GW2 kicked off, and FPL site is STILL "being updated" ???
WTF...
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As I too often use to say here: "I KNOW I'll regret this"
Should change team name to Regretful Monkeys
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I had my 2 tr complete, Sigurd+Berahino for Shelvey+Lambert...
OK? NO, I HAD to spend 4 more pts for a 3rd, as Rosenior was yellowflagged and Chester on the rise
Here: early red card, and further -2p
Net result: a -6p decision
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Good job, it saves me the disgrace of the red lantern.

In other news, I'm an idiot who for two weeks in a row forgot to change the captain from the default choice, therefore playing twice with non-scoring Graziano Pelle as captain. Twice doubling 2 points. Bugger.
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LOL, and I though it was "loyalty" to a striker coming from Eredivisie...

"Twice doubling 2 points. Bugger."
Ditto
and go figure that in GW1 I *chose* Lukaku with Rooney 7p as VC
then in GW2 I had bought Sigurdsson, but contrary to Funko who at least doubled our new signing's 5p, I *chose* again Rooney (hey, vs Sunderland...) who this time got 2p...
so whereas yours was forgetfulness, mine was "wanton waste of armband"....

Walrus in GW1 chose his worst scorer as Captain (Giroud 1p) with Sigurdsson remaining on the bench, now he chose better with Fabregas 6p (but Hazard & Mata got 9p), Giroud got 5p but he relegated him on bench
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GW2 - before Monday Night MCI v LIV

sorted by current GW points, provided that:
- Transfers cost not deducted from current gw points
- subs points anticipated w/r to site which will add them only after gw ends
PP=Previous Points T=Transfers(GW)
S=Starting 11
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B=Bench
>=to play
avlB = points available on the Bench to eventually sub those yet to play

Code:
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        PP T -p  GW  S B >   S  C  B

Belmont 64 2 -4  61 10 - 1  55  6  -  >,3    Sturridge (B> Sterling)
Top6fin 51 3 -8  57 11 - -  52  5  -         -
4-1-6   67 1  -  52  8 - 3  43  9  -  9,2,1  Kolarov, Nasri, Dzeko
Stairwl 49 -  -  49 11 - -  43  6  -         -
Glum Fb 41 1  -  44 10 1 -  36  6  2         -
Schubbe 40 -  -  42 10 - 1  40  2  -  3      Sterling
Monkeys 38 3 -8  36  8 1 2  33  2  1  >,2    Kolarov, Yaya (B> Gerrard)
Balls   54 1  -  31  7 1 2  23  6  2  -      Henderson, Sturridge (will have a 0 by DNP Lennon with no more subs available)
Trollsl 52 -  -  25  6 1 4  23  >  2  3      V Gerrard, Silva, C Sturridge, Aguero
I don't sort in this table by the Overall Total nor report it, as you can see that in the league table on the FPL site

with Kolarov previewed not to play, 4-1-6 would bring on Fonte's 9p from Bench...

confirmed: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28831352
Kolarov & Aguero start from Bench

this means:
Fonte's 9p get in for 4-1-6, unless Kolarov gets on during the game
Gerrard plays for Monkeys, unless Kolarov gets on during the game
Delph's 3p get in for Fist, unless Aguero gets on during the game, like he did last GW, scoring too
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... unless Aguero gets on during the game, like he did last GW, scoring too
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u only gained 2p over the 3 u had granted from bench
...unless he get bonus too
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It's ok fulfilling the prophecy is worth way more than a few points
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...unless he get bonus too
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thanks, I was actually referring to the one listed in your page (and Iain's too)...
you're in a league and you don't know?

maybe you automatically renewed one you entered seasons ago, but now you don't care anymore to follow it?

I don't recognise the names of most of its members... so if it's not one you're also actively follwoing, it would be nice to have the code anyway but not a primal need...
No, I knew what you were talking about but I can't get the joining code unless I'm the league administrator, which I'm not.
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I was fearing an analysis of how many points better off I'd be if I'd made no changes. *phew*
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while I'm preparing my usual tables a question sprung to my mind

and it's specifically regarding Funko & me, as he had convinced me to bring in Chester

starting 11 playing 0 minutes get automatically replaced by subs on the bench, in the specified order, unless the formation rule is enforced to bring in a defender (or a fwd) even out of bench order

so, imagine I had left Chester on the bench for some reason (clairvoyance?)
only 2 of my other 4 defenders played, so I had to replace Koscielny and Kolarov
I'd needed to bring in a 3rd defender or leave a DNP on the pitch, and the only other defender on the bench would have been indeed Chester.
He'd have come in because he HAD played a few minutes, even if his -2p score was worse than the 0 I'd get for a DNP...

Correct?

thus I was doomed to suffer the -2 Chester blow in any case, regardless of my pitch choices...
unlike you who had all other denfenders playing and scoring
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No, I knew what you were talking about but I can't get the joining code unless I'm the league administrator, which I'm not.
thanks, I saw the thread

I was puzzled how could you join a league without knowing the code in the frist place

I realised that a NEW code is generated every year when renewing a league
Previous members can automatically renew without knowing the new code, you only need it to join anew


Last admin I tracked was EiF in 2010/11....
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Williamson got a red card like Chester did
Why hasn't he a red flag yet for being suspended next round, just like Chester?
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had we chosen Chester as Captain, would have we doubled his -2 and got -4 as score ????
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GAMEWEEK 2 TABLES

I adjusted the Bench analisys columns as in GW1 I had forgotten to consider bench GKP
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        GW  used       Points    Points    St  worse  ideal  waste
TEAM     2   S B DNP   S  C  B   on Bench  Hi  thanB  Team    C  B

4-1-6   69  10 1  -   51  9  9   6 -,2,1   12  1       77     3  5
Belmont 63  11 -  -   57  6  -   - 2,3,7   14    0,2   79     8  8
Top6fin 57  11 -  -   52  5  -   2 1,-,-   10   -2     65     5  3

Stairwl 49  11 -  -   43  6  -   - 6,5,0    9    0,1   62     3 10
Glum Fb 44  10 1  -   36  6  2   6 -,8,-   10  2 0     60     4 12
Schubbe 44  11 -  -   42  2  -   - -,3,2    9    1     53     7  2
Trollsl 42  10 1  -   38  2  2   6 -,-,3    9  2 (0),1 55     7  6
Monkeys 41   9 2  -   34  2  5   - -,-,2    9   (-2),1 49     7  1
Balls   35   9 1  1   27  6  2   - -,-,-    6          35     -  -

AVERAGE 49.3        42.2 4.2 4.0    7.2    9.8        59.4   5.5 5.9
 Totals        6  1                            7p/14
where applicable I used
- for DNP (Did Not Play)
0 for those who played but actually scored 0 (see Bojan, Ferdinand)


TEAM DEPTH
Code:
TEAM    gw   Pitch                       Bench
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Top     74  14  9  9  6 6 6 5 3  2 2 1

4-1-6   69  12  9  9  6 6 6 5 2  2 2 1   6  -  2  1
Belmont 63  14  9  6  6 5 5 5 3  2 2 0   -  2  3  7
Top6fin 57  10  9  6  6 6 6 5 3  2 1-2   2  1  -  -

Stairwl 49   9  9  6  6 5 2 2 2  1 1 0   -  6  5  0
Glum Fb 44  10  6  6  5 3 2 2 2  1 1 0   6  -  8  -
Schubbe 44   9  8  7  6 2 2 2 2  2 1 1   -  -  3  2
Trollsl 42   9  9  6  4 3 2 2 2  2 1 0   6  -  -  3
Monkeys 41   9  6  6  5 5 4 2 2  1 1-2   -  -  -  2
Balls   35   6  6  6  2 2 2 2 1  1 1 -   -  -  -  -

Bottom  28   6  6  6  2 2 2 2 2  1 1-2
Budget/value allocation
Code:
            GKP       DEF              MID                FWD
TEAM    gw  £    pts  £    pts         £    pts           £    pts 

4-1-6   69  10.0 6 1  30.1 12 9 6 2 -  37.3  9  6  6 2 2  21.9 5 2 1   -Zamora+Anichebe
Belmont 63   9.5 2 -  28.3 14 7 6 6 5  37.0  9  5  3 3 2  25.4 5 2 0   -Davies+Vlaar -C.Chambers+Dier
Top6fin 57   9.0 6 2  26.6  6 3 1 1-2  38.0 10  9  6 5 -  26.0 6 2 -   -Young+Sigurdsson -Clyne+Chester -Hazard+Fabregas

Stairwl 49   9.0 2 -  26.1  6 6 2 1 0  41.0  9  9  6 5 1  24.4 5 2 0   
Glum Fb 44  10.0 6 2  24.8  6 2 1 - -  38.6 10  8  5 3 1  26.6 6 2 0   -Figueroa+Vlaar
Schubbe 44   9.5 1 -  28.3  8 7 6 2 -  35.4  9  3  2 2 1  26.5 2 2 2
Trollsl 42   9.0 6 2  24.8  9 2 0 - -  37.0  9  4  3 3 1  29.0 6 2 2
Monkeys 41   8.5 6 -  28.7  9 6-2 - -  36.7  5  4  2 1 1  25.1 5 2 2   -Shelvey+Sigurdsson -Lambert+Berahino -Rosenior+Chester
Balls   35   9.5 1 -  25.1  6 2 1 - -  33.2  6  2  1 - -  32.6 6 2 2   -Eriksen+Fabregas
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I was fearing an analysis of how many points better off I'd be if I'd made no changes. *phew*
Funko gave me this great idea!
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I MMUST NOT...

...

...I did

I already used my FT yesterday, but couldn't help to spend 4p for another one now

damn fluctuating prices and TFPL

whitout subs, I'd have £0.5m less value now, but apart the -8 transfers cost, I'd also have scores 2p more with original players (maybe 1 or 2 even more with different bench managing) and I'd be close on the heels of Iain and Bas, instead of 13p behind

oh well, steep learning curve, blabbity blah

at least I hope it'll give me that little budge edge when I'll use the wildcard...
(I should resist till GW7 for the 2nd int'l break, with 2 weeks to reflect and 7 games played to show reliable trends...)

but that's for tomorrow post about tranfers analisys
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hard to get up, easy to fall!

before reasoning about transfers, I noticed this about Price Rises and falls

so far, there have been 215 players whose price fell, 9 thereof by 0.2
as opposed to JUST 17 who had a price increase
(Siggie by 0.3, Cesc and Dier by 0.2)

I'm not strong in economy, but this looks a bit bizarre to me...
(it's true that for every and each Transfer OUT, there must be a Trasnfer IN)

..it could be because a trigger is the percentage of net transfers wrt the total owners

so, a lot of players who had less than 1% owners are easily subject to falls, when those owners realise their summer "peculiar" pick is not actually going to play one minute, and instantly dump them to bandwagon towards the initial GW stars

see for instance Joel Campbell, he's owned by less than 300,000 teams, and 8,000 net Out Transfers were enough to make him lose 0.1...
(it still seems a bit too few Outs to me... maybe it also counts whether they are concentrated over single days, or equally spread on a longer period?)

whereas the same number of transfers, albeit concentrated on fewer names, go into already very big pools
while a single flux was a drain for where it came from, it's just one more drop for where it goes in
I hope I could make myself clear with this plumber analogy (after all I'm Mario )

take 10 players with few owners who lose 10k each, even if they all concentrate on the same name, the resulting 100k purchases have not the same impact on a player already owned by 1 million teams

( I actually failed to convince myself there must be indeed a different triggering value for INs and for OUTs...)
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HEY!!!

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On price changes, does this help?

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DREAM TEAM REVISITED

Code:
GW  Pts  Hi Lo  Form.  GS  A CS   B  in ODT
 1  133  15  9  4-5-1  10  4  3  29     7
 2  123  15  9  4-4-2  10  2  8  27     4

Overall
    199  29 15  3-4-3  14  7 12  37
of course the Overall one is less than the sum of the single GWs which would be 256

All the same, you could do better than the overall one, still respecting the game rules:
a 15 men team, 2-5-5-3
£100m budget
max 3 players per BPL team
formation GW rule (min 3 DEF & 1 FWD)
1 Free Transfer per GW, and eventually more Tranfers at -4p each

the best I could devise is this:

Code:
Player	 Team	Pos	Sel.by	Price	GW1	GW2	OP	DT1	DT2

McGregor  HUL	GKP	 3.4%	 5.0	14	 2	16	 *	  b
Guzan	  AVL	GKP	 8.2%	 4.5	 6	 7	13	  b	 *

Dier	  TOT	DEF	14.2%	 5.2	15	14	29	 *	 *
Ivanovic  CHE	DEF	14.2%	 7.1	10	12	22	 *	 *
Chester	  HUL	DEF	 6.2%	 4.6	15	-2	13	 *	  b
Shawcross STK	DEF	 6.5%	 5.5	 2	11	13	  b	 *
Koscielny ARS	DEF	13.7%	 6.1	10	 -	10	 *	  b

Ramsey	  ARS	MID	44.2%	 9.1	10	 9	19	 *	 *
Sigurdssn SWA	MID	27.3%	 6.3	13	 5	18	 *	OUT
Downing	  WHU	MID	 1.3%	 5.5	 2	10	12	-   IN	 *
Fábregas  CHE	MID	34.1%	 9.2	11	 6	17	 *	 *
Sterling  LIV	MID	37.7%	 8.6	13	 2	15	 *	  b
Jovetic	  MCI	FWD	 9.7%	 8.0	 2	13	15	  b	 *
Chadli	  TOT	MID	 2.0%	 6.0	 -	15	15	  b	 *

Naismith  EVE	FWD	14.1%	 5.1	 9	 9	18	 *	 *
Berahino  WBA	FWD	 6.9%	 5.6	13	 2	15	 *	OUT
Adebayor  TOT	FWD	 4.5%	 8.5	 2	12	14	-   IN	 *
GW1 DT follows FPL 133p one, except with Naismith 9p in place of Clyne, as the fwd can grant 9p in GW2 too (and indeed he's in Overall DT)

with GW1 fifteeen listed above, you'd have to use Cesc 6p, Sigurd 5p and Sterling or Berahino 2p to complete GW2 eleven
We have tho Adebayor's 12p to bring in for GW2 with the FT. In such case the one to sell is another FWD, that is Berahino.
This way we'd have a 113p GW2 DT, bringing our total to 246
much better than 199, and only 10 less than 256 !

Note that having already Dier (overall topscorer) and Chadli (GW2 topscorer) in the team from Spurs, to bring in Adebayor in GW2 we are prevented to consider Rose for the team. His 6+9=15p overall are made up for by Koscielny GW1 10p and "provisionally" by Sigurd GW2 5p.

Furtherly, there are 3 MID left out with 10p in GW2.
At this point the lowest score used in GW2 is indeed Sigurd 5p.
As the additional Transfer cost is -4, we can increase the overall score by 1 more point
The first candidate was Mata, but he'd have broken the budget limit by a few £m decimals. So the next choiche is to SELL Sigurdsson after GW1 (!!!), to bring in Downing (there was Dyer too, same cost, 1p less overall).

In summary
133p with GW1 team
2 transfers
118p with GW2 team

total 133+118 = 251, -4 = 247

Almost all the players in FPL GW2 DT are also in our GW2 best team above,
with the excepion of 9p Coloccini and 10p Dyer and Mata.
They're replaced by Ramsey 9p (equivalent to Coloccini's), Naismith 9p too, and the notable exception of Fabregas with just 6p, a worthy tradeoff as he's 6th overall with 17p.
Bringing him Mata or Dyer in his place wouldn't have increased our 247 total anyway, as 10-6=4 that's the cost of the 3rd transfer

Finally, compare the figures above with the highest scoring actual FPL teams
GW1 101p Daygo Gunnaz Union (he only then got 43p in GW2, 144p overall)
GW2 99p Martin's back (he had 51p in GW1, 150 overall)
OVL 173p PSV Pitsmoor (93+80, -74p or -30% than the legal best possible 247, and 27p less than 101+99=200)
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wow, at 1st glance, it's VERY interesting, THANKS

I had found (and you pointed me too) the FFS site earlier, I had browsed a few articles, but didn't see this one, so thanks again!

otoh in TFPL I saw posted this bit of news:
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Re: Siggy Rise Qs - New seasons can bring changes to the price algorithm. It isn't revealed & must be worked out by TFPL
the FFS article is not datestamped, so I wonder whether it's up to date for newly started season, or how much would it be affected by the above alleged algorithm changes...

I trust studying it will step my knowledge up a lot anyway
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those 2 bits at the bottom were amogst the considerations I was going to insert in the planned Counterglow League Transfer Analisys post

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Transfer players in that will go up by at least .2
Transfer players out that have made and even amount of profit and started to stall.
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had we chosen Chester as Captain, would have we doubled his -2 and got -4 as score ????
Yes, happened me in the past and it does indeed double negative scores.
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I would laugh remembering that, but I got 2 red cards this week for the first time ever.
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