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Old 10-06-2014, 01:05:53   #1
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Fantasy World Cup 2014

Just seen this is up and running. Similar to the Fantasy Premier League squad based format. We can setup a league if enough interest:

http://en.mcdonalds.fantasy.fifa.com/
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:58:12   #7
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I have set up a league if anyone wants to join the McDonalds FIFA one:

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Old 13-06-2014, 12:07:55   #10
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well....

no players value fluctuation
no mouse-tip ready infos about players while you build your squad or select the line-up
no peeking into other league members squad
no detailed info about player-by-player Fantasy points earned after a match (no info AT ALL actually)


why have they so watered it down?
(dumb question: to accommodate for the wider but intellectually shallower mobile audience, of course)

and it might be me, but even if I joined the league, I have to search for it again evvry fricking time I enter the My Leagues page...
where can I withdraw?

for weekend matches, I'll try to make subs from my mobile
I'm sure I'm gonna botch it massively

... not that I'd managed to put together anything decent really
despite I adapted to put in a lot of chaff in the end, I found the budgdet to be very strict this time, compared to the player values...


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Goalkeepers
 6.5 FRA Hugo LLORIS
 3   NED Jasper CILLESSEN
 2   GRE Orestis KARNEZIS

Defenders
 5.5 SUI Stephan LICHTSTEINER
 5.5 BEL Jan VERTONGHEN
 4   COL Cristian ZAPATA
 4   GRE Vasileios TOROSIDIS
 2.5 GRE Konstantinos MANOLAS
 2   ALG Madjid BOUGUERRA
 1.5 ALG Carl MEDJANI

Midfielders
 8.5 ESP Andres INIESTA
 6   BOS Miralem PJANIC
 6   COL Juan CUADRADO
 4   CAM Jean MAKOUN
 2   IRN Reza HAGHIGHI
 1.5 HON Jerry PALACIOS 
 1.5 HON Edder DELGADO
 1   IRN Hashem BEIKZADEH

Forwards
10   ARG Lionel MESSI
 7   BOS Edin DZEKO
 6.5 CIV GERVINHO
 5.5 CAM Samuel ETOO
 4   CAM Eric CHOUPO MOTING
I realise now... if it turns out Makoun doesn't play, can I switch formation too, when making subs?
Can I switch from 3-4-3 to 4-3-3 to replace a mid with a def? otoh looking at the 4th defs I have... maybe I'd do better by keeping an aventual 0 in the midfield



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YAY MoSe!!

I think they'll make all the leagues visible in my leagues once the first gameweek has finished.
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Old 13-06-2014, 14:59:50   #12
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I realise now... if it turns out Makoun doesn't play, can I switch formation too, when making subs?
Yep, I think you can.

The thing that annoys me the most is I can't see points awarded to the players except the one I have in my team. Or I missed something obvious??
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Old 13-06-2014, 15:12:40   #13
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I can't see those either.
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Old 13-06-2014, 16:51:43   #14
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no detailed info about player-by-player Fantasy points earned after a match (no info AT ALL actually)
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The thing that annoys me the most is I can't see points awarded to the players except the one I have in my team.
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I can't see those either.
after one or more years hiatus, I'm still being too circuitous... :-)
that's what I wanted to say too
I actually complained I couldn't see ANY points at all, but that was just because I hadn't picked any Brazilian nor Croatoan in my squad :-)
Actually, I can see now the points of my Cameroon players updating LIVE :-0

but yes, I think that's a policy
they stripped the game from too much technical info, lest those who couldn't cope with it felt frustrated :-)

that's above all is worrying me:

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So I put in Itandje as a bit of a cheapish goalie who would play and get the chance to make lots of saves, he's got 9 points (might get a save bonus, making 10). 3 points for playing, 6 for blocks/saves. No clean sheet obviously. I bought Romero to go in goal now I don't know whether to gamble on the change... maybe just bank the points.

And I can't see what the keepers got last night to help judge if 9 points is an average score or not either.

The ability to see stuff is terrible.
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Old 13-06-2014, 21:39:50   #16
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Julio Cesar got 6 points yesterday. I THINK because now that I benched him I can't see the points anymore....
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Old 14-06-2014, 18:51:56   #17
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Ditto...
Got Cillessen bc he's cheap, thought OK vs Spain whatever...
He scores 6, I THINK 3 full match +3
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Ditto...
Got Cillessen for cheapness, thought hey vs spain whatever...
Scored 6, I THINK 3 for full match +3 saves
could've been much more with a penalty save & clean sheet!
Now I guess I'll bench him anyway hoping Lloris gets CS vs HON...
BTW Karnezis, got as chaff, should've got couple pts anyway, BUT I DONT KNOW as I' left him on the bench

got 61 so far, switched captain from Etoo to Iniesta (both just 3) finally to Cuadrado 13x2=26

And 9 Zapata for CS

tonite Gervinho, tomorrow Lichsteiner Lloris then midnight MESSI
still wondering whether take off Choupo 5 pts to put in Dzeko too, playing vs ARG...
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Man, clean sheets are hard to come by this wc
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Old 15-06-2014, 21:57:31   #20
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Just got one with Lloris (a little shiver for a hon box dive in the end...)
He got 8 pts, must've been awarded a save
only +2 over Cillessen, but CS vs Hon iswhat I mainly got Fra GK for

I'm at 82 now, -3 benching Etoo 79
With Messi + Pjanic to play to complete my 11
Decided to not gamble on Dzeko (super def Arg w/ Mascherano & Campagnaro in front of 4 defenders)
and keep Choupo 5 pts
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Messi 11 Pjanic 7, not bad
will have to wait end of round to find out whtr Dzeko got >5
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You're way better than me

Besides, is it just me or when you change formation you have no control on the player that gets benched and if he already played you can't even put him back on?

This interface sucks.
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indeed

I figure it takes out the rightmost, regardless of the lowest pts another one might have
And as they got rid of the Confirm button, making it immediately autosave any change (*), this means once the formation change benches a player who'd played already, that's done and you can't get him back for the round

(*) makes sense, what if your mobile connection gets stuck before you can confirm? or if your attention span is not long enough to remember you have to confirm?
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back on my PC, can finally at least get pts details for my players on the pitch.

I share some "live" info for the curiuos, to make up for the interface suckiness

Lloris was indeed awarded one save (that slowly bouncing ball which was going out? )
Zapata +1 for balls recovered, and +1 >80% Passes completion bonus!
Torosidis and Manolas +1 balls, and the latter +1 Bonus too
Lichtsteiner has +1 for balls and +2 for a Blocked Shot! He was at 6 till the end, when at last minute he got down to 5: -1 for the 3rd foul....
Pjanic +1 for Passes Bonus, +1 for "2 balls delivered into the box" and +3 for balls recovered (that means he recovered 6!)

Cuadrado got 2 Assists (+6), +1 CS, +1 PassBonus, but also +1 for 2 balls into box, and even +2 for a blocked shot. A 360° midfielder performance, he's my best scorer and I was lucky enough to make him captain, without switching then the band to Messi, who "only" got 11 (+5 goal +3 for 6 balls into box)
Gervinho, besides the goal, got +1 balls recovered and +2 Blocked Shot (not bad for a forward), and also + >80% Attempt Rate Bonus

98 so far:

1 GK 8
4 DEF 23 = 9+5+5+4
3 MID 39 = 28*+8+3 (Iniesta, can't bench him as I only have 2 Iranian chaff left and already playing 4-3-3)
3 ATT 28 = 12+11+5

Will bench the 4pts by Torosidis to put in Vertonghen tomorrow
Belgium can well get a clean sheet vs Algeria, I just need him to score 6 to reach the 100pts
(I also have Bouguerra and Medjani as chaff from the Algerian side, but somehow I doubt they'd better the 5pts by Lichtsteiner and Manolas )

Not bad all in all, for a squad put together at last moment in less than half an hour, 5 minutes here 5 minutes there while working, "disturbed" by the boss calling me
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CHAFF analysis

but what I'd been longing all weekend long, was to put in some of the deeper thinking I hadn't the time to when it started

Considering the budget felt stricter than it used to, it would have been crucial to concentrate your resources on the minimum required players, hiring then the cheapest as fillup to meet roster requirements

The allowed formations range from 3 to 5 players in Midfield and Defense
(barring of course the two extreme 5-5-0 and 3-3-4 combinations)

supposedly forwards should get the bigger scores, and Mids better than Defs
so you'd tend to deploy a 3-4-3 when possible
to retain a minimum flexibility (injuries, reds, etc) I'd have gone with a 4-4-3 "actual" players (which allow for a 4-3-3 and a 4-4-2 too)

given the 3-7-8-5 roster composition, that would have left me with the need to find the cheapest 2GK, 3Def, 4Mid and 2Att as chaff
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      GK   --  DEF  --  MID  --  ATT
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1   3 ALG X  4 ALG XX   ALG -    ALG -
    2 IRN -  2 IRN -  2 IRN XX   IRN X

1.5            ALG -    ALG -    ALG -
             3 IRN -    IRN -    IRN -
    2 HON -    HON -  2 HON XX   HON X

2            2 ALG -  2 ALG -    ALG -
             2 IRN -  2 IRN -    IRN -
             2 HON -  2 HON -
    2 CIV -  2 COL *
      CMR -    CMR *
      USA -    USA *
      GRE X
      CRC -
      ECU -
      GHA -
X sure pick
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given the 3 ppt (player per team) limit, and seeing that at the lowest 1M value only ALG & IRN players were available in all positions, a forced choice would be to pick the 3 ALG and the 3 IRN all from the 1M tier
meaning that you could then pick no ALG/IRN at higher values

at 1.5 M value, beside ALG & IRN you only have HON players, here too across all positions
as you can't pick anymore ALG/IRN, we're forced too to take 3 HON players with 1.5 M value

this makes 9 players so far; the "chaff allocation" devised above required 2+3+4+2 players, 11 in total
we need 2 more chaff to be picked at 2M
we're out of ALG/IRN/HON picks, and this leaves us "dry" of MID/ATT 2M options
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So I had decided to keep Itandje but then they later REMOVED 3 of his points, so he had 6, put in Romero who then got 8...

Hmm. Bit dodgy if people are making choices about bringing players in or out and the points are changing.

Currently got
8 Romero
- Vertongen
5 Mena
10 Garay
26 Oscar (c)
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7 Cabaye
- De Bruyne
13 Sanchez
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- Lukaku
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My 4 outfield players replace 2 players who didn't score, and 2 who scored 9 between them.
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Also be interested in the Italian view of the England match.

Vastly different game to 2012, much more entertaining. From our point of view I thought we did really well at creating chances without having the quality to finish them. At the time I thought a draw would have been fair but having seen the highlights again I think you probably deserved to edge it. Was entertaining to watch at least.
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continue CHAFF analysis

I introduce now a consideration about GK
several GK are valued 2M, but of all one stands out:
Karnezis is his team starting GK, so he'll be likely to actually earn a few pts too

that's a bit of a paradox, the starting GK has a lower value than his reserves! (Kapino and Glikos 3M)
it's true he might be less experienced, but he started consistenly over the last frienldies and 2013 qualification matches, so that he was clearly to be considered a definte choice by his coach (BTW, same for Cillessen at 3M, with Vorm at 3 too but Krul at 4M... )

back to topic, this makes Karnezis a sure "chaff" pick at 2M

considering also that ALL 3 ALG goalies are valued 1M, this allows you to pick the actually playing one, thus ALG GK is another sure "chaff" pick
bib #1's profile says "Despite his fine displays in the Algerian league, Si Mohamed looks set to serve as third-choice custodian for Les Fennecs at Brazil 2014"; then "Algeria's second-choice goalkeeper, Mohamed Lamine Zamamouche contested just one qualifier ahead of the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil™, filling in for Rais M'Bolhi against Burkina Faso"
this would leave us with "Rais M'Bolhi has established himself as Algeria's first-choice goalkeeper in recent years, winning plaudits for his two games between the posts at the 2010 FIFA World Cup™ and playing a vital role on the road to Brazil 2014" who'd then be our other chaff GK pick

so we have filled the 2 GK chaff spots with M'bohli and Karnezis
the other 9 picks could be done randomly (*) within the above set provisions (remembering that 1 DEF spot has to go for a 2M COL/CMR/USA player) as they'd hardly have any chance to actually play anyway ...except maybe ALG defenders, who'd not be sure starters but maybe Mesbah or Belkalem could be something more than pure chaff

so we filled ALG 3ppt, and the 3 DEF chaff spots
(*) as in a Sudoku, this leads us to determine the remaining chaff picks as in the updated table above
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what's useful for the roster buildup, is that we have picked as chaff
6 1M players (ALG GK +2 Defs, IRN 2 Mids + 1 Att)
3 1.5M HON players (2 Mids + 1 Att)
2 2M players (Karnezis GK, and 1 Def at will)

tallying 14.5 M spent for chaff

this would have left us with a 85.5 M budget to spend for our "elects":
1 GK + 4 DEF + 4 MID + 3 ATT
for 12 players, this is a 7M average value, with an extra 1.5 left

that will be next chapter

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1st round last 5 matches

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Currently got
8 Romero
- Vertongen
5 Mena
10 Garay
26 Oscar (c)
- Oezil
7 Cabaye
- De Bruyne
13 Sanchez
6 Higuain
- Lukaku
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so I have 94 + Vertonghen to play
you stand at 75 +Vertonghen too, plus Oezil, De Bruyne and Lukaku
your 3 could well fill the 19 pts gap and more....

"The leading goalscorer during Belgium’s 2014 FIFA World Cup™ qualifying campaign, Kevin de Bruyne is – alongside Eden Hazard, Romelu Lukaku and Axel Witsel – one of the stars of his country’s much-vaunted ‘golden generation"
OK Hazard's val @ 8M, but I wonder why then in Belgium's midfield they valued Mertens, Witsel and Fellaini 6M whereas De Bruyne just 5.5M...

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Also be interested in the Italian view of the England match.

Vastly different game to 2012, much more entertaining. From our point of view I thought we did really well at creating chances without having the quality to finish them. At the time I thought a draw would have been fair but having seen the highlights again I think you probably deserved to edge it. Was entertaining to watch at least.
well, I'm not "mainstream" in my views, you know...

more entertaining than euro 2012 yes
emotional maybe for those involved, not a memorable game for neutrals
I much more enjoyed the spanish thrashing for instance

I was reall worried at the beginning as you started much better
for some itailan pundit one day passed it became "we dominated 1st half" that's pathetic...
it was all talk about "density in the midfield" and "making them run while we controlled the ball"...
I trust Prandelli, and I'm not one of the many crucifying Paletta, but acutally he looked like the less apt man for the task at hand... Paletta is strong against strongly built forwards and set defense, not against fast wingers and transition attacks, and Chiellini on our left side when it's years he plays central defender couldn't help him much
Paletta played a consistent season with Parma, but bringing in a 28yo Argentinian-born who wasn't part of the qualifying campaing and only capped in the last 3 friendlies before WC, well, tells something about the state of italian defenders this season...

Pirlo is always hailed as a genius "every breath he takes", sure he's a champion and has ecxeptional vision of play, but despite 103/108 passes completion I don't think it was one of his better performances
Our midfiled was orderly kept, Verratti jsut did his homework, De Rossi had to take care of defense mainly and not even always that secure... but I didn't see much inventive and dynamicity
True the climate didn't allow for much, but England seemed they could often outrun us... till they busted after 60-70' :-)

As for Balotelli, despite being a Milan fan I'm always been and still am one of his critics. Not just for his head and behavior, which he now kept under control (thanks of Fanny? ). But buecause I don't think he has superito technical skill or ball handling, OK his distance shot is impressive, and he can keep the ball upfront and make the team get forward, but he too often wanders aimlessy, dives shamelessly, adn falls asleep in frotn of the goal letting defenderd catch up...
saturday he swung in the winning header (not the easiest one, well done, but not a miracle either), did one extraordinary thing (the lob over Hart cleared on the line by Jiagielka, which would have been the goal of the WC had it got in) and what else, a couple of decent initiatives?
He did hios job as forward of a strong team, I appreciate and praise him this time, but he's not god on earth or the savior of the nation.
Normally, my view is he's a player you can't relay on. Also in the club, he makes you win one game alone with something sensational, but then he lets you down and leaves you to lose other three while you wait in despair for him doing something decent.

Marchisio and Candreva played well in their role.
Marchisio cans score some occasionally, but this one is the top of his career. Impressive how he looks where to send the ball through a tiny gap in a forest of legs, and hits it exactly there as on a billiards pool.
Candreva holds 70% merit for Balo's goal.

Lots of viewers twitted or skyped "great, but we were lucky", and a couple of TV experts rebutted "where lucky? we had 5 blatant chances, not link the few half-hearted they had, we could have scored 5"
Actullay, in the 5 they counted the 2 we scored, Pirlo's set-piece crossbar at 93' (man, that deserved to get in, he made Hart jump the other way on a feree-kick!), Jagielka's line clearance, and Candrava's post, both in consecutive actions in 1st half stoppage-time.
The rest was more toiling than inspiration.

It was REALLY disappointing how you equalised just two minutes after our advantage, above all for the way you didi it.
OK we lost a ball in the midfield, but we weren't even caught off-guard, you were 2 vs 4! We had two men on Rooney (Verratti and Barzagli) and two on Sturridge (Paletta and Chiellini, see above...)
The utter simplicity of how you got the goal was frankly disarming and depressing. It made me think of one of the goals Netherlands scored vs us in euro 2008.

But then, towards the end of the game, I was thinking, if it had been THAT simple, WHY didn't it happen again?

In the end, entertaining game, few pieces of really fine football, adverse climate conditions influencing the show, we can be satisfied for the good job done, with some suffering, had it ended in a draw we'd had some regrets but it would have been fair gthe same, it leaves us with comforting and promising views for the near future and for winning the group, provided we keep it down to earth and realistically take care of the flaws we showed

Having seen URU-CRC, England still hold fair chances to clinch runner-up spot
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Considering the budget felt stricter than it used to, it would have been crucial to concentrate your resources on the minimum required players, hiring then the cheapest as fillup to meet roster requirements
I did the exact opposite, hoping that having lots of mediocre players was better as we could replace those who underperformed during the round. I was clearly wrong plus I didn't do much research and I'm stuck with players who didn't play at all...

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Also be interested in the Italian view of the England match.
Way more entertaining than the 2012 one cause I seem to remember a very passive attitude by the England team back then...

I think the english 'next gen' (Sturridge, Sterling, Wilshere, Welbeck) is really promising and got a lot of praise here too, I'm glad Hodgson finally found the guts to try something new and take a riskier approach.

Finishing was poor and that's something to work on but as I said it's a talented and entertaining side which is something I did't expect to say about England. The 2010 campaign was as dull as it gets.

Also.. I didn't really understand what happened on the England left wing as for what I saw Baines was 1vs2 the entire game. Darmian and Candreva exposed the left flank repeatedly, not sure why there were no countermeasures taken, was Rooney supposed to track back?

P.S. I hope Di Sciglio recovers and pushes Chiellini back in the mid (and Paletta out of my sight as I can't stand him )
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11 games so far, no draws
37 goals 3.36/game
3 clean sheets / 22sides

1x 5-1
2x 3-0
3x 3-1
4x 2-1
1x 1-0

3 losing sides were goalless, the other 8 scored one, no losing side scored 2+

in the 8 sides who lost scoring 1:
2 dind't equalise (Australia and Bosnia scored when already trailing 0-2)
5 scored first! (then after getting equalised got on to lose)
1 only failed to overtake the opponent after equalising, and got down again
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14.5 M spent for chaff
85.5 M budget to spend for our "elects":
1 GK + 4 DEF + 4 MID + 3 ATT
for 12 players, this is a 7M average value, with an extra 1.5 left
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GK (Starter only)  DEF                MID                ATT
7.5 BEL COURTOIS   8.5 BRA TH.SILVA   8.5 ESP INIESTA    10  POR C.RONALDO
    ESP CASILLAS   7.5 BRA DAVIDLUIZ      CIV YayaTOURE      ARG MESSI
7   ITA BUFFON         BRA MARCELO    8   ITA PIRLO      9.5 URU L.SUAREZ
    GER NEUER          BRA D.ALVES        BRA OSCAR      9   BRA NEYMAR
6.5 FRA LLORIS     7   ESP S.RAMOS        GER OEZIL          NED ROBBEN
    ENG HART           ESP PIQUE          NED SNEIJDER       ARG AGUERO
6   POR PATRICIO       BEL KOMPANY        ESP D.SILVA    8.5 NED VANPERSIE
    ARG ROMERO         GER HUMMELS        CHI VIDAL          ENG ROONEY
    RUS AKINFEEV   6.5 ESP J.ALBA         BEL HAZARD         FRA BENZEMA
    URU MUSLERA        GER MERTESACK      CRO MODRIC         URU CAVANI
    USA HOWARD         ITA CHIELLINI      COL RODRIGUEZ  8   ENG STURRIDGE
5.5 COL OSPINA         CHI MEDEL      7.5 ENG GERRARD        ARG HIGUAIN
    CHI BRAVO      6   ENG G.JOHNSON      ARG DI MARIA       BRA FRED
    SUI BENAGLIO       ENG BAINES         ESP FABREGAS       GER T.MUELLER
    CRO PLETIKOSA      ENG G.CAHILL       GER SCHWEINST  7.5 ITA BALOTELLI
    BRA JULIOCESR      GER J.BOATENG      CRO RAKITIC        CHI A.SANCHEZ
    BIH BEGOVIC        GER HOWEDES        ECU aVALENCIA      ESP D.COSTA
5   NIG ENYEAMA        ARG ZABALETA   7   ESP XAVI HER.      GER PODOLSKI
    CRC NAVAS          ITA BARZAGLI       ESP X.ALONSO       GER GOETZE
4.5 AUS RYAN           POR COENTRAO       ENG LAMPARD        CRO MANDZUKIC
    ECU DOMINGUEZ      POR B.ALVES        ENG WILSHERE       BRA HULK
    JPN KAWASHIMA      URU CACERES        ENG STERLING       POR NANI
    MEX OCHOA*         URU GODIN          GER LAHM           COL jMARTINEZ
4   CIV BARRY          FRA VARANE         GER KROOS      7   BIH DZEKO
    KOR JUNG ?         FRA SAKHO          ARG MASCHERAN      CIV DROGBA
3.5 IRN DAVARI         FRA KOSCIELNY      BRA PAULINHO       GER KLOSE
3   NED CILLESSEN*     COL ZUNIGA         POR MOUTINHO       NED HUNTELAAR
    CMR ITANDJE        CRO PRANJIC        SUI SHAQUIRI       URU FORLAN
    GHA ADAMS ?        CHI ISLA       6.5 lot good ones      ECU CAICEDO
                       NED VERHAEGH   6-5.5 still good!  6.5-6 smart picks
so, as with food and goods, not always higher price implies quality... but anyway...
we have to suppose that potentially the yield should be ATT>MID>DEF>GK, and the prices seem to reflect this assumption
barring few exceptions, with Defenders you could almost respect the 7M average (remember the 3ppt constraint), and with the GK you could even spare some M

problems begin in Midfield... despite with good research and insights there are lots of interesting opportunities in the 6.5 - 5.5 range, having to pick only 4 it would be hard to renounce to some of teh 7+ and top ones

and with forwards, you should go for all or nothing :-) although ATT yield tends to be very polarised, that is either your striker strikes, or he'll very likley just get the basic 3pts... whereas a Midfielder can usually profit from a wider offer of scoring categories in this game, see the Cuadrado case above

without entering in details, let's say you spend 29 for 3 ATT and 31 for 4 MID... this would leave you with 25.5 for 4 DEF and the GK !!
either you step down a bit upfront, or you'd have to carefully pick your defense, aiming more at the chance of a CS by the team rather than personal performance

the rest is a matter of personal preferences... and indeed of the very same prediction and managing skills that we're testing and comparing in this game!
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I did the exact opposite, hoping that having lots of mediocre players was better as we could replace those who underperformed during the round.
well, that's what I got to in hindsight
i didn't first follow that rule myself, and I was indeed thinking a bit like you, then with time ticking away to the deadline I frenzied and mixed the approach whimsically...


go figure I had started by pickng Courtois, Thigao Silva, Iniesta and Messi right away


I'm trying now to figure out, in light of the above "too late" analysis, what I'd have done with more time to reason, trying to let not myself get influenced by how the first matches actually went so far...
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Things R beginning to show thru!
Now I can see points AND details for players on the bench
so, Dzeko got 3, Karnezis 5(-1 for 3 goals +3 for saves)
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Cool, now I can see those 7 points I lost when the change of formation benched Bolanos yay
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LOL, as I was doing my chaff analysis I was thinking John BROOKS, who the hell is that?


now in the game page I can see my current points 98 and rank around 7500 which is not great
still can'see other points nor details in the league page
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I must have botched something!

I still see the C under Cuadrado, but now it says 14 pts instead of 28, although it reports Captain Bonus x2 in the details
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but his name doesn't appear anymore on top of the pitch, and if I try to click Change... it says "There are currently NO PLAYERS in your squad!!! Go to the transfers page now to BUILD your squad!"

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if something bad happens...I WILL WITHDRAW!
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GO FIGURE?

They enabled the 2nd page for picking your lineup for 2nd round of group phase, and there's My Captain still listed for new round, and all the players there

I nearly got a heart attack!
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The utter simplicity of how you got the goal was frankly disarming and depressing. It made me think of one of the goals Netherlands scored vs us in euro 2008.

But then, towards the end of the game, I was thinking, if it had been THAT simple, WHY didn't it happen again?
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Also.. I didn't really understand what happened on the England left wing as for what I saw Baines was 1vs2 the entire game. Darmian and Candreva exposed the left flank repeatedly, not sure why there were no countermeasures taken, was Rooney supposed to track back?

The English media are obsessed with Rooney and there has been much discussion about this. I think the time he created the goal was actually one time he didn't track back, so when the full back was up the pitch he had some space to run into. When he was being more disciplined he didn't make as many chances.

One of the consequences of picking suck an attacking line-up is that you leave spaces at the back. It very nearly paid off, but we just couldn't score enough goals.

I think at the time of the second goal it was actually Wellbeck who was out of position on the left and not tracking back (not sure whether Rooney was supposed to be out there at that point).

It's funny in England, I think that's the most entertaining and promising Finals match I've watched us play for 15 years but the media are still determined to find fault. Rooney is getting a lot of stick despite making our goal and having our best other chance (ok he missed it, but he also made it for himself).

I'm enjoying our brave new world of attacking football and also think we should be able to beat the other two teams, as long as we can enjoy the game, attack and resist being crippled by the pressure.
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The fucking page is now not showing double points for my captain.

Oh I see MoSe had the same thing
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Lost 4 points by not bringing in an Iranian defender. bah.
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re: Balotelli. He filled a sticker book full of his own face.



Will always love him.

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