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Old 11-09-2012, 17:14:19   #1
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guns germs and steel

i downloaded this book on my nice little smartphone in english and i can undestand around 95% of it.


i'm at the beggining but it sounds really outdated.

trilibiozanomoidian trillion peoples thrust their miserable bodies to the shores of the so called "european continent".

i know he talks about american indians and australian aborigines etc but i think that's where the interest stops.
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Old 12-09-2012, 00:56:35   #2
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This book has been totally trashed by serious academics. The guy should keep his writing to his birds.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:26:41   #3
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How do you know what serious academics think?!
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:36:39   #4
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Are they seriously serious?
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:48:47   #5
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Academically academic.
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Old 12-09-2012, 13:59:18   #6
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I thought most of it was really cool and thought provoking - especially the geography stuff. What were the parts that the seriously serious academics didn't like?
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Old 12-09-2012, 15:26:29   #7
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All the bits you like, you tard.
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Old 12-09-2012, 15:26:35   #8
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Old 13-09-2012, 07:40:28   #9
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I don't know what "serious academics" think, it's like when people say "serious economists" happen to think your policies are rubbish... how convenient... anyway it doesn't pretend to be a "serious" history book, it tries to find a global narrative to explain the contrasting wealth of nations

the book is fine, enjoyable by its scope and breadth and indeed quite thought provoking (especially about the future), even though its main punchline, geography makes history, was done by Napoleon quite a while ago


If you want a "serious" history book that's quite enjoyable, go for any of Tom Holland, this guy has a gift, and Fernand Braudel, the master of them all (start by "grammar of civilisations")
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Old 13-09-2012, 09:18:18   #10
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There's a possibility that jsorense might be a (not very) serious academic in the area. Or at least he has hung around with some.
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Old 13-09-2012, 12:54:09   #11
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I found it to be boring, impenetrable claptrap due to the lack of explosions and titties.
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Old 13-09-2012, 13:24:55   #12
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Ah, that will be why the "serious academics" didn't like it.
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Old 14-09-2012, 13:29:52   #13
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there are explosions!
I remember a few graphs on demographic explosiosn, and on use of energy per head... very spectacular
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Old 14-09-2012, 16:02:27   #14
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merci pour les suggestions i'll check them out

i got a bit bored by it btw. partly because of the apparent absence of essential boobies/explosions partly because it's so much you can read about the polynesians
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Old 14-09-2012, 20:27:23   #15
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You insult explosions with your statement.
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Old 14-09-2012, 20:32:23   #16
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i accidentely stumbled on this
http://www.polynesia.tk/polynesiangirls.html

despite the farsical value in the way it is written, please note that it says

that if a girl is beautiful then she belongs to all.
I find it very important that they specify this
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Old 17-09-2012, 14:54:42   #17
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nice

I didn't have much success explaining girls, beautiful or not, that they belonged to me in the first place, but maybe I should wear a banana belt
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Old 17-09-2012, 16:09:02   #18
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Is banana belt a french colloquialism for cod piece?
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Old 18-09-2012, 09:19:06   #19
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no no, I was talking literally of a banana belt, à la Joséphine Baker
but the Vahiné wear a palm leaves belt
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Old 18-09-2012, 17:17:13   #20
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a bit off topic of bananas (small break)
(a proros de cette nouvelle avec holllande et luis vuiton, une rapide question: le taux de 70%-75% aux riches, ca va etre en action pendant seulement 2 annees, n'est-pas?)
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Old 18-09-2012, 18:41:10   #21
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POLITICAL ASSHATTERY FORUM!!!!!!!
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Old 19-09-2012, 10:51:42   #22
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yep supposedly it's for 2 years only
and it's 75% over 1M€ of income, if you are single (one tax share)
however, they are also pushing up taxes over 150k€ of incomes
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