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Old 05-08-2005, 10:36:45   #1
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Incredible Italian Cocaine Use

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4746787.stm

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Scientists have found large quantities of cocaine residue in a river in northern Italy - suggesting consumption is much higher than previously thought.

They say they found the equivalent of 40,000 doses a day in the Po valley, home to about five million people.
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According to official estimates, people living around the Po consume about 15,000 doses of cocaine a month.

But the research claims more than three times as much cocaine is used in the area.
Now I'm not sure about these figures, if it's three times as much then that means one of the days/months figures is wrong, either that or the days/months are right and the reporter is an idiot.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:38:43   #2
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I was just reading that report on the BBC
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Guardian confirms that they expected 15,000 doses a month but got 40,000 a day.

http://education.guardian.co.uk/high...542896,00.html

Which is amazing. And 90 times what people admitted to.
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Old 05-08-2005, 11:05:24   #4
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And I never got beyond cannabis derivates...

BTW, how can they say it's 40,000 using 0.1g everyday, and not just 4,000 using 1g everyday?

I frankly have no idea about the doses weigths...
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1g a day is a lot, but as the pattern of cocaine use is mainly a weekend focused thing, the 'per day' measure is quite misleading, i would say

still thinking of it as 4,000 people using 7g a week would be quite terrifying, not sure even kate moss gets through that much
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BTW, how can they say it's 40,000 using 0.1g everyday, and not just 4,000 using 1g everyday?
Spot on. I live there and they didn't ask me what I have for breakfast. That 1 Kg cocaine I put in the tea must screw their statistics.
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No Fist, cocaine doesn't mean "cocoa and caffeine"...
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In german, it means ass.

"They say they found the equivalent of 40,000 doses a day in the Ass valley, home to about five million people."
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The proper translation in English is Ass Crack.
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Old 05-08-2005, 12:23:03   #11
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I take it Italy isn't big on sewage treatment plants.
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Old 05-08-2005, 12:38:07   #12
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1g a day is a lot, but as the pattern of cocaine use is mainly a weekend focused thing, the 'per day' measure is quite misleading, i would say

still thinking of it as 4,000 people using 7g a week would be quite terrifying, not sure even kate moss gets through that much
Some people get through 7 grams in a day. That's the top end of the scale though. John Belushi area.

Danniella Westbrook did 15 grams a week I think.

I just can't fathom how horrible you'd feel after that.
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You'd only feel bad if you stopped?
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You'd only feel bad if you stopped?
I don't think so. If you do too much cocaine it's not enjoyable. Not to me anyway - feeling like you are about to step out of a plane at 30,000 feet and feel all snotty and dehydrated and twisted. The most annoying thing is that you keep doing it to put that bit off. Ten minute cycles of feeling relief and happily excited and then nervous and needy and tense.

Yuck.

I'd rather have a wicked esspresso or two nowerdays.
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I don't think so. If you do too much cocaine it's not enjoyable. Not to me anyway - feeling like you are about to step out of a plane at 30,000 feet and feel all snotty and dehydrated and twisted. The most annoying thing is that you keep doing it to put that bit off. Ten minute cycles of feeling relief and happily excited and then nervous and needy and tense.

Yuck.

I'd rather have a wicked esspresso or two nowerdays.

Two nowerdays?! I've never even taken one.
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It probably comes from a drug bust, and the perp flushed it down the Po.
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Which is amazing. And 90 times what people admitted to.
Not amazing at all. Supposedly the 15k figure came from walking up to people on the street and asking if they use cocaine. Many people will naturally lie in such a situation.
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It probably comes from a drug bust, and the perp flushed it down the Po.
I had thought of it too, but the chemical sought for is a cocaine METABOLITE, benzoylglensomething.
They should've assumed it and urinated it, before dumping it...
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Quite a few flaws in the study. They tabbed the doses at 100 mg a day. That isn't much at all unless it is quite pure, even then, anyone who's doing coke is still going to wind up doing more than 1/10th a gram a day more than likely (try 1 - 5 grams). They also mentioned the street value would be 150 million at $100 a gram which they labeled at US street value. You can get twice that much for 100 and still be getting ripped off. Of course it gives the police more cash to tackle the larger than true drug problem.
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It probably comes from a drug bust, and the pope flushed it down the Po.

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Those words and that picture in combination are rather disturbing
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I curious how a few drug dealers flushing their stash would change this reading. Maybe the cops were banging at the door so the drug dealer flushed it down the toilet to get ride of it then the readings for way up giving false numbers.
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Because they took samples from the river and must have performed some sort of estimate...how accurate it could possibly be is another question...
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That's actually probably only about 200 hardcore cokeheads accounting for that.
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I curious how a few drug dealers flushing their stash would change this reading. Maybe the cops were banging at the door so the drug dealer flushed it down the toilet to get ride of it then the readings for way up giving false numbers.
They were measuring for the chemical that cocaine becomes when it's been metabolized by the human body, so pure cocaine flushed wouldn't skew the ratings at all.
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You can drink peoples piss with coke residue...
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that's pretty much a regular weekend then
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