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Old 01-04-2004, 00:00:25   #101
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1) Do I? Thanks for letting me know.

2) you need the egg not the sperm for reproduction

3) because I posted about a BBC prog I think looks interesting?

4) about what?
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I AM a bit tetchy, Mz. Horns. And I'll tell you why.
I have spent hundreds of hours in courses on feminism, feminist literary criticism, gender bias, roles and so forth.
I am personally offended by your assumption that men as a group are a bunch of knuckle dragging rapists in waiting who have no desire other than to subjugate women as inferior vassals to our massive genital fixation.
My wife is my partner and my friend and I confer with her on all decisions great and small.
I still, throughout it all, see essential differences in men and women and don't think that is a bad thing.
I just think you're carrying coals to Newcastle, so to speak.
Most of the responses you get here are from what I consider to be more than average evolved men, taking the piss.
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1) Welcome.

2) No, generally speaking, you need both. Once you start manipulating stem cells with any kind of skill, though, I suspect you probably don't need either.

3) No, just your general behaviour, including stuff in the rest of this thread. Seriously, when it comes to sexual dynamics, you're part of the disease, not the cure.

4) You mean you're REALLY serious about this?
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I AM a bit tetchy, Mz. Horns. And I'll tell you why.
I have spent hundreds of hours in courses on feminism, feminist literary criticism, gender bias, roles and so forth.
I am personally offended by your assumption that men as a group are a bunch of knuckle dragging rapists in waiting who have no desire other than to subjugate women as inferior vassals to our massive genital fixation.
My wife is my partner and my friend and I confer with her on all decisions great and small.
I still, throughout it all, see essential differences in men and women and don't think that is a bad thing.
I just think you're carrying coals to Newcastle, so to speak.
Most of the responses you get here are from what I consider to be more than average evolved men, taking the piss.
I think your assumptions about my views are entirely wrong, but somewhat predictable
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1) Welcome.

2) No, generally speaking, you need both. Once you start manipulating stem cells with any kind of skill, though, I suspect you probably don't need either.

3) No, just your general behaviour, including stuff in the rest of this thread. Seriously, when it comes to sexual dynamics, you're part of the disease, not the cure.

4) You mean you're REALLY serious about this?

Here's an idea: for me to take your views seriously, why dont you go watch the programme so you can understand what it was about?
When you say part of the disease, I assume you mean part of the group of women who dont giggle and blush and think its a great privilege to appear on the cover of a mens mag.
Because I don't conform to your political ideals, doesnt mean I have a behaviour problem
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No, I mean you're a raving sexist bitch. As are many women who giggle and blush and exploit their appearance, incidentally. Your apparent inability to appeal to men has nothing to do with sexism one way or another.

Essentially, most of your posts on the subject consist of two sides: "Men" and "women". Therefore you are labeling behaviour based on chromosomes, which is sexist. If REALLY pushed, you'll acknowledge that culture and social pressures have a little bit to do with things, but you'll never start with such a view.

Which is why most people here just assume that you're a nice person really and you're having a wonderful time taking the piss.
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Which is why most people here just assume that you're a nice person really and you're having a wonderful time taking the piss.
That's basically what I figured.
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No, I mean you're a raving sexist bitch. As are many women who giggle and blush and exploit their appearance, incidentally. Your apparent inability to appeal to men has nothing to do with sexism one way or another.

Essentially, most of your posts on the subject consist of two sides: "Men" and "women". Therefore you are labeling behaviour based on chromosomes, which is sexist. If REALLY pushed, you'll acknowledge that culture and social pressures have a little bit to do with things, but you'll never start with such a view.

Which is why most people here just assume that you're a nice person really and you're having a wonderful time taking the piss.
Oh I'm a bitch. Yes I forgot, the last outpost of male domination- when she disagrees or misbehaves, give her a shameful name. Its good how you managed to fit both feminists and traditionally feminine women into that category. At least none of us feel lonely now. You'd love it if I called all men bastards I suppose.

YOu can fuck off Shining, you clearly have no clue what my beliefs are, or when I'm joking/being serious. You just dont like me disagreeing with you.

Perhaps if you even bothered to watch the programme you would have a clue.
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Well, if you're going to call me a twat in the other thread, it's fair enough, right? Or are you implying that I can't insult you because you're a woman?

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you're such a twat SHining there are loads of books about this, and why dont you look on the BBC website yourself?
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Go ahead, insult me, that wasnt the point.
Bitch is always used as the favourite word to put women down because it has that particular connotation of someone who is inherently nasty or devious. Its a good way of deflecting attention when a woman has made a valid point. You managed to apply it not only to feminist women but also to the girly women. Well done you. All women are bitches.

It just proves that you are indeed a twat
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Ah, okay. Sorry.

I mean you are a raving sexist COW.
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just little gene carriers who are gradually being outbred and outclassed.
I felt genuinely complimented by that. I can't see where Shiney would have gotten his opinion about you given how reasoned and even-handed your expressions about us men, and men in general, have been, as evidenced by what I quoted.

Now what I want to know is are you really having us on, and do you expect us to take you seriously when you post stuff like that?
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I AM a bit tetchy, Mz. Horns. And I'll tell you why.
I have spent hundreds of hours in courses on feminism, feminist literary criticism, gender bias, roles and so forth.
Why?

I used to point and laugh at male students that did that.
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just little gene carriers who are gradually being outbred and outclassed.
This concerns me as much as the fact that one day our bloated red sun will boil the seas of the Earth, and life here will end forever. By the time it happens- I'll be long gone.

So why me to worry?
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Horse, KH hit the nail on the head.
Along the way it was pretty interesting, but the psycho quotient in those classes was really high. The great thing was that the female to male ration was about 10-1 and there were a lot of really aggressive women in there looking to swap gender roles etc. Being a naturally passive person it was right up my alley.
That's where I met the captain of the girl's volleyball team one summer...good times.

None of them, by the way, seemed to reach the level of paranoia and unresolved childhood issues that Mz. Horns has, however.
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What, that I was once a womanizing sensitive new age guy?
I thought that was fairly obvious.
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If by 'fairly' you mean 'not at all'?

Although I'm probably not reading the right threads...
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I am not paranoid
I have no childhood issues unresolved or otherwise
I am not prissy

none of you can seem to understand that this was serious thread about a perfectly credible scientific and social theory (or set of theories I should say) on a programme postulating about where the world would be in 15 years. Given the amazing importance the male population on this site places on science I thought you might be interested in it.
Its also the case that when you make sexist jokes or have a dig at me I'm supposed to laugh (or I'm a bitch) but when I have a little dig at you saying you're being outbred etc, you all throw your arms up.
I think its you all that have the issues
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Anyway, we all know shes right. Also, it's all our (men) fault for encouraging lezbianism.
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I am not paranoid
I have no childhood issues unresolved or otherwise
I am not prissy

none of you can seem to understand that this was serious thread about a perfectly credible scientific and social theory (or set of theories I should say) on a programme postulating about where the world would be in 15 years. Given the amazing importance the male population on this site places on science I thought you might be interested in it.
Its also the case that when you make sexist jokes or have a dig at me I'm supposed to laugh (or I'm a bitch) but when I have a little dig at you saying you're being outbred etc, you all throw your arms up.
I think its you all that have the issues
I watched the program, I thought it got off to a good start but after about halfway through I started losing interest because frankly it was just a (poorly made) drama loosely based on what is essentially just sociological theory... which in this point in time has very little factual base. Where it get's it right is the fact that women are outperforming men in school/college and to a smaller extent university, and are also fast becoming dominant in call centre and customer service environments, which is also the fastest growing sector in most developed societies. In my 6 or 7 years of working most of it has been in those sectors and this is not a dig at women, but the women bosses I had in that period simply did not know how to deal with their male employees, they were either over friendly/chatty or bitchy towards their female underlings and just plain indifferent to the male ones. So much for the emotional intelligence?

But I digress, the show only showed men to be oafish/aggressive/paranoid/inadequate and useless, whereas the main female character was a complete insensitive smug "bitch" (fault me on using that word if you want, but i bet that was in her script description). She already had 3 daughters but she went to a futuristic family planning clinic at the age of 50+ asking for a new baby, then when asked what sex she wanted she said "i think i want a girl" to which the doc answered "of course". Then explanation about how you don't even need sperm anymore, can just graft another cell into the egg and voila, an embryo. And was the (scientifically very shaky) scaremongering about the y chromosome really necessary in a program supposedly outlining the possibilities of what may happen in the year 2020?

The show tried to make out it was unbiased with the little segues showing men's movements, who are feeling threatened etc, but it was clearly a show designed to thrill women that they may be rid of men... pfft.
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I don't think you should get in running battles until you're able to cast a somewhat objective eye at some of your posts, Angel.
I like you just fine, but I find you to be a bit screechy and weird on this particular topic.
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If you wanted to hit on girls psychology was the course of choice when I was at uni - a smorgasboard of talent without the attitude fo the femo-nazi courses.

I dropped out of Psych after about 4 weeks once I realised there was some work involved.
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WHAAAA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!


Horns, we place emphasis on science because most of us understand it and some of us are very good at it. And the first rule of science is that if you can do it, you SHOULD try to beat a theory into dust. If it survives, then it has potential.

Science is not what you seem to think, where you take a bunch of random conclusions based on flimsy reasoning and sit around and admire them and get horribly offended and call people juvenile ignorant totally insensitive twats because they try to debate them.

This theory is not remotely credible, especially at the extremes where you talk about an entire sex 'devolving'. Are you honestly suggesting that you should be allowed to post such utter crap here without anyone calling it? If so, fuck off!

Oh, and horns - we hate most in others that which we fear in ourselves. I think you should stop labeling others sexist or insensitive while these traits are raging out of control in your own persona.
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none of you can seem to understand that this was serious thread about a perfectly credible scientific and social theory (or set of theories I should say) on a programme postulating about where the world would be in 15 years. Given the amazing importance the male population on this site places on science I thought you might be interested in it.
Its also the case that when you make sexist jokes or have a dig at me I'm supposed to laugh (or I'm a bitch) but when I have a little dig at you saying you're being outbred etc, you all throw your arms up.
I think its you all that have the issues
15 years is effectively one generation we'll say. You know how the World is likely to look in one generation from now provided that there won't be a nuclear war or anything? Pretty much the same as now but with more people, more technology, more fatness, more pollution, and less resources. If there will be an increase in females compared to males, it's going to be effectively miniscule.
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Ha ha Protein.

Although that might just be a rational response to living in Britain during the 90s...:shrug:

Certainly you don't seem to show these tendancies. I was just remarking that Horn's favourite putdowns are 'insensitive' 'ignorant' and 'sexist' when she shows these qualities herself in spades.
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