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Old 28-02-2004, 21:31:08   #51
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Really....if for no other reason, it's extremely tacky.
I think Laz or someone needs to do the chivalrous thing and drive up there and rent a lovely room at an inn and take care of this.
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Old 28-02-2004, 21:34:43   #52
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I bet Mrs Laz would have a comment or two on that.
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Old 28-02-2004, 21:37:14   #53
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Right. Ok, maybe I'd better sort this out then.

Or Mrs. Laz may care to "supervise"?
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Old 29-02-2004, 06:49:56   #55
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Old 29-02-2004, 07:06:05   #56
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Alsie, we're not trying to be down on you and make you feel all young and stupid. Seriously, I wouldn't want my first time to have been with a complete stranger in a toilet. I still remember my first time, coming home 3/4 sheets to the wind with a girl that I had known for a few months, kissed a few times, and managed to talk (and get her drunk too) into shagging me.

Yes, it wasn't all romantic and lovely, but I tell you what, I'd rather remember it that way than having done it in a public toilet. Just ask yourself this much. How would you feel explaining it to your best friend afterwards? Or your future husband/wife (leaving the options open)? Would you really feel proud and excited to have done it that way? If the answer's no, I'd suggest rethinking it.

Please don't take this the wrong way, we're just trying to help you. It's not meane to be criticism, we're just trying to impart something that we've learnt over the years. What else are friends for than to point out (nicely) when they think you're making a mistake?

I don't claim to understand what a woman goes through the first time with the breaking of her hymen, but I understand that it can range from uncomfortable to downright painful. And in a toilet, there's going to be no way to make things comfortable for you.

Anyways, enough said I think. We know that in the end you'll do what you want to. I did when I was a teenager, but I just hope that this once you listen to a bit of advice from some friends.

If not, good luck with it.
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Old 29-02-2004, 07:09:17   #57
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I am listening to all of it, but short of bringing him home and going "Hi mum! here's a guy i've been camming wiht for a while now, mind if i go upstairs with him and shag him?" there's not a lot else we could do.

I appriciate the fact you don't want to see me fuck up my life, as i have a whole lot to come, but i have to make some mistakes.
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Old 29-02-2004, 07:16:31   #58
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I'm certainly not one to give life advice, if for no other reason than that I could only ever be used as a negative example. Nor do I think that this will fuck up your life...many things could happen, good or bad, long term or short. But if public toilet is the best you can do, you aren't being creative enough, and if you don't care, then there may be motivation issues you want to think about.
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Old 29-02-2004, 07:19:48   #59
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well there are numerous alleys in oxford, welington square, shop changing rooms, museum toilets (now thats classy)
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Do your parents even go out at night? Try and organise something on a night they'll be out for a while. Heck, even shopping night?

Do you have a friend whose parent(s) is often out of town and would lend you a room for a while? Have you thought about saving some money and staying in a youth hostel/cheap traveller's accomodation for a night?
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Old 29-02-2004, 07:27:31   #62
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parents doint go out, if they did, sisters would still be here. jon would have the problem of getting here, he has to get numerous trains to see me.

you think one of my mates would let me fuck in their house? only a guy would, if it was with a girl and he could join in/watch, or if i'd fuck him too.
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Old 29-02-2004, 07:38:12   #63
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Well, not knowing the situation, my only recommendation is to apply more thought (not that I think you haven't already). But you're welcome to tell me to fuck off.
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the guy i wanted to be my first see's me as a littel sister, is currently moving to essex (which he hadn't told me about and i heard through) my girl katy is with him, but we want to get together, jon does great things for me, i was gong to fuck him anyway, so it might aswell be tacky and nasty cause thats how the rest of my life will be
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Old 29-02-2004, 08:05:01   #66
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i could go into more detail, bringing in my whole life story, but i have to be at work by 10
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That's ok, it was more of a statement of ignorance on my part than any request to be enlightened. But do as you will. Like I said, my only advice is continued thought.
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Old 29-02-2004, 08:08:22   #68
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well y'all got a week to try and change my mind
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Old 29-02-2004, 08:36:56   #69
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A blanket in a nice secluded park might be nice. You could even pretend you're going on a picnic.
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Old 29-02-2004, 15:18:21   #71
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well y'all got a week to try and change my mind
Well, if you really want your mind changed...

A large % of stalkers now use the internet to hook up, there is an excellent chance the guy is a nut and will kill you.

If you don't believe it, there are plenty of examples of it.

But hey, it's your life, do whatever.
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Old 29-02-2004, 16:21:25   #72
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Old 29-02-2004, 17:35:05   #73
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Well I've seen this guy's FP profile, so if she does disappear he won't be too hard to find...
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Old 29-02-2004, 17:36:57   #74
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Old 29-02-2004, 17:43:12   #76
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My mistake, he seems perfectly normal.
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Old 29-02-2004, 17:45:16   #77
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Old 29-02-2004, 17:46:47   #78
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That's somewhat self-evident.

Allie it's all very well saying you need to make mistakes (which is very true), but surely the whole point of making mistakes is that you don't know it's a mistake until you do it...?
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Old 29-02-2004, 18:03:50   #81
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The person is pretty much irrelevant, as is all the other issues bar your safety. If you take steps to ensure your physical safety, then all I can really say is "good luck" with the rest.

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Old 29-02-2004, 18:09:10   #82
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damnit, i was looking forward to that, after the imagery of you and your knackers swingin free under your kilt
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Old 29-02-2004, 19:02:15   #84
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Alsieboo- wasn't my Crow story enough to put you off?
I feel some sense of responsibility towards you as firstly we are both girls, and secondly I can see a lot of me at my age in you and I desperately want to stop you making an error I'm 99% certain you'll regret.

I don't want to patronise you, but you really don't know what you're letting yourself in for. First and foremost, you really don't know this guy from Adam, and what kind of guy organises to meet someone who is barely legal to fuck them on a first date? All romantic notions of doomed youth aside- he has no respect for you. He could very well hurt you or do something you really don't like.
Secondly- whats the big hurry? YOu're just turning 16, you have years ahead of you to find someone who cares about you to have sex with. These are not the only two guys in the world. I've regretted what I did many times. And at the very LEAST, being with someone I cared about and who cared about me would have ensured a bit of tenderness and comfort (even experienced shaggers have difficulty doing it standing up). You might think as I did, thats it no big deal the first time etc, but thats wrong: it sets a pattern, and it can be a destructive one if you let it. What are you saying to yourself here Alsie? You're saying you have so little respect for yourself and your body that you would fuck a stranger in a public lav. Where do you think that trail of behaviour and thought ends? Nowhere good I can tell you. You said that your whole life will be screwed up anyway- bullshit. You are a bright, funny young woman, and I thought you were sharper than this. DOn't sell yourself short. You are too young to be worrying about sex or lack thereof right now. I know, believe me, that it all seems really important right now, but it isn't. What is important is that you learn to develop respect for yourself, your health and your safety before you let anyone lay a hand on your body.
I know everyone on here pisses about a lot, but we are all genuinely worried, and thats because we have the benefit of experience/hindsight. Please listen to your friends, we just want the best for you.

If you want to talk to me about it privately, send me a pm and I'll give you my msn/email, I really am concerned for you.

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i'm going to become a porn star, starting off as a prostitute/stripper.
i go on my webcam, strip and then masterbate for men of all ages
the men i care about only end up hurting me, so now i hurt everyone else before they get the chance
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this guy wants to fuck his little sister?

that is just fucked up

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i'm going to become a porn star, starting off as a prostitute/stripper.
i go on my webcam, strip and then masterbate for men of all ages
the men i care about only end up hurting me, so now i hurt everyone else before they get the chance
you can't hurt me

I am unhurtable (right now)

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this guy wants to fuck his little sister?

that is just fucked up

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the men i care about only end up hurting me, so now i hurt everyone else before they get the chance
Ah, self-inflicted misery then.
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This thread took and undected turn just now.

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i'm going to become a porn star, starting off as a prostitute/stripper.
i go on my webcam, strip and then masterbate for men of all ages
the men i care about only end up hurting me, so now i hurt everyone else before they get the chance
AB- not sure whether this is sarcastic or not, but the porn industry is littered with women who wanted to be 'porn stars' and ended up emotionally and psychologically damaged, in prostitution, on drugs, or otherwise harmed. Why choose, at 15, a path for your life that is so obviously paved with broken glass?
You may have been hurt before, but welcome to adulthood. We've all been there. Just because some man hurts you doesn't mean you have to hurt yourself and become self-destructive. Choose to look after yourself and learn from your hurt, and you'll be a happy girl in time. Its not inevitable that you'll be hurt unless you deliberately choose to do things that hurt you. Can you please pm me and tell me what he deal is here? I am sympathetic, and it can help to tell someone who's been there.
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the guy i wanted to be my first see's me as a littel sister, is currently moving to essex (which he hadn't told me about and i heard through) my girl katy is with him, but we want to get together, jon does great things for me, i was gong to fuck him anyway, so it might aswell be tacky and nasty cause thats how the rest of my life will be
you want to fuck him and he sees you as his little sister

and he is going to fuck you anyway

that is fucked up

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Jon, you know the phrase 'making a bad situation worse'?

thats you that is.
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Now then, i would interject with some profound and succinct point here, but having eventually lost my virginity at 19 i`m at a bit of a loss experience wise.
I do know it took me about 11 years to become anything approaching good at it
That would mean that assuming comparable brain function this man would need to have started at the age of 5 which in itself is quite shocking.
As for the porn industry bit, there was a documentary done on C4 about a british porn star think her name was kathy or something little dark haired girl with a child who went to try and break the US, you should watch it, especially where she gets to meet the deviant that is max hardcore, to believe it`s devoid of any emotional pain is a bit naive if you ask me.

Toilet, TOILET for a first experience i`m just trying to visualise the dynamics involved and i have no idea given a standard cubicle size of 3ft by 5ft i guess it would require extensive double jointery and a copy of the kama sutra advanced techniques. The latter i may be able to furnish you with, assuming AH has memorised all the chapters she wishes. And i can unstick the pages

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i was going to say "I'm not listening to you, yoou ate sue's special creme egg" but, seeing as you'll give me the KS, lol
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