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Old 07-02-2004, 08:09:34   #1
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Exclamation If you know Yang, read this

If you have any contact details for him, or any personal information that could be used to trace him, please contact his parents. If you don't want to do so yourself, please pass them to me so that I can do so.

http://www.counterglow.com/forum/sho...795#post468795

This is the second time he's posted about overdosing on here, and I'm fucked if I'm going to watch this forum turn into a venue for a suicide. He doesn't need concealing, he needs help.
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Does he post at that incredibly nerdy civ site? Maybe Ming or Mike might know something. Not much help from me but that is all I can figure.

Here is to hopeing he is just an attention whore.
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Old 07-02-2004, 08:25:19   #3
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Anyone know any other forums he uses?
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Old 07-02-2004, 08:27:36   #4
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Maybe FFZ or CGN or whatever it is... or... sorry Laz. I ain't helping much but I'm trying.
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Old 07-02-2004, 08:27:49   #5
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He comes from cfc, as far as I know.
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Right- I've got messages on Poly, CFC and Speakeasy.
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Found another, via google:

http://www.ripnet-uk.com/forum/showt...p?threadid=296

Yes, it's him -- same kinda message too. Spartak's there.
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Old 07-02-2004, 08:44:48   #8
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His first name is Olof, he's 17 years old and lives in the medium-sized town of Örnsköldsvik some 70 km south of here. His class recently went on a trip to Vietnam.

I think that ought to be enough to find his identity based on- stuff like class lists etc. are official documents in Sweden.
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Right- done that one too.
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Old 07-02-2004, 08:52:08   #10
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Right, at the Nola School they had a trip to Vietnam at the appropriate time (trusty google!). It should be a small matter to call on the Public Document Principle in the constitution to get the class list out.
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Old 07-02-2004, 08:58:30   #11
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Probably by the "reasonable time" clause I won't be able to do so until Monday though. Saturday morning is a singularly inappropriate time to go hunting for official documents.
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Old 07-02-2004, 09:03:03   #12
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I've got the names of his two teachers though, I could hunt down their phone numbers and try to find out his identity that way. A quick trip to the university (and all our database software) later and I'll know everything there is to know about him.
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Old 07-02-2004, 09:21:58   #13
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Could I have some input here please? Do you want me to continue or not?
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Old 07-02-2004, 09:28:09   #14
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I think you should proceed.
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Old 07-02-2004, 09:34:47   #15
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I've got the phone numbers here. Should I tell them what the matter is about (thus risking Yang's humiliation) or just be vague?
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I...yes.

How would you be 'vague'?
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Actually, absolutely.

Potential humiliation if just fooling around dosen't balance against being dead if serious.
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Old 07-02-2004, 10:02:33   #18
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Plus, we've got the same message on two different forums.
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Old 07-02-2004, 10:04:52   #19
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"I demand by virtue of the Public Information Principle to recieve a list of all the people who were on the trip to Vietnam! Chop Chop! And their birthdates!"

or possibly

"I'm a concerned friend off an internet forum, I don't want to humiliate the dude, just give me the entire class list which by the way I'm legally entitled to recieve anyway."
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I think you should call and not be vague.

It is sad if he is not serious. It would be even sadder if he is and no one in position did anything about it.
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Right, I'm off to do so now.
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Old 07-02-2004, 10:11:52   #22
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Definitely call.

Shades of Will/Apocolpse doing this on SidGames, we ended up digging and calling his folks.
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Fuck, both the teachers are out.

I'm calling the school but after that the next step is to search the public databases for his birthdate and location, would take a while.
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Old 07-02-2004, 10:25:46   #24
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I wish he would be specific about what he takes. "A whole bunch of painkillers" could mean death or it could mean a couple of codiene tablets, which is no worse than the people who come and post here off their nuts on booze.

If he is fine today but he's in trouble it is his own fault. There are people here who care and you can't post something like that without it sounding like a desperate cry for help. When I was doing lots of drugs I wasn't telling people all about it so I am guessing that Yang wants some sort of event made of this.

I've talked to him about this before but the message didn't get through it seems.
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Sorry. I am trivialising this into a discussion subject.

Can I help in any way?
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"How many aspirins you reckon one'd have to take to kill oneself?"

Stupid fucking idiot. Yup. Definately try and contact him. Even if he doesn't kill himself he is going to really damage himself.

http://health.allrefer.com/health/as...dose-info.html
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I can't seem to find anyone. The databses are a very slim chance- if it's an emergency it seems a bit of a futile one to be honest.

Why couldn't he overdose on a weekday?

I'll try the teachers again.
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He posted his suicide question at 3.40 am with bad spelling and obviously fucked.

The last time he posted was at 7.23 this morning - good spelling and seemingly OK.

Not that that helps but even if he is fine he will be sleeping for the next few hours.
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What about the local police, they would know the named key holder for Yang's school and could rouse that person to trace his details?
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hmmm, wasn't it a phone call from someone in some twat position or other to the police that got some result for DM? That was MtG, wasn't it?

Maybe a call to the local authorities would be in order, but can you come across as butt-kickingly serious as MtG?
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I've talked to his teacher and "Person named Olle, engaged in left-wing politics" apparently rang a bell- she's calling his parents right now. I gave her Yang's birthdate and she's going to check that out too.

On monday I'll be able to get full identity details but not until then.
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I have his full name which I have passed onto Johan, which should make getting hold of him far, far easier...
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Thanks. I'm calling the teacher again to confirm.
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She's phoned him and his mobile and his best friend and she claims he's nowhere to be found.
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It is him though.
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Not sure what to do next- she was reluctant to give out his contact details and he's too young to be in the phone directory.
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Crap Well let's just hope she can deal with it.
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Family name? Or is it the equivalent of Smith?
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Almost. There are 15 of them in Örnsköldsvik alone, plus 14 in nearby Domsjö where his teachers (among others) live.
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How about have the police or EMS call the teacher?
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Let the teacher handle it -- she has clear jurisdiction in this.
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Not sure if it's appropriate to be honest.
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We don't know that the teacher hasn't already contacted them.
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Maybe it's different in other nations, but here, teachers are required to report a possible suicide situation to the proper authorities.

What I mean is, she knows who to call and what to tell them.
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