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Old 22-09-2006, 08:21:52   #751
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Old 22-09-2006, 08:55:16   #752
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Old 22-09-2006, 08:59:03   #753
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Yeah, I read all his stuff a few years back, my dad had them all and I basically worked my way through all the books in the house. That one was ok, but I preferred the Japanese ones.
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Shogun was the best I have read by a long way. This is good, just in comparison it is dissappointing.
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Old 13-11-2006, 12:20:37   #756
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Old 13-11-2006, 12:23:09   #757
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That is a great book. Film coming out soon, last I heard they'd signed up Christopher Walken to play Ozzie Osbourne.
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Old 16-11-2006, 15:34:07   #758
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Old 16-11-2006, 15:51:35   #759
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Old 09-01-2007, 13:10:10   #763
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Oh, I liked that one. I think the last new book I read was the Algebraist by Ian Banks.

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Old 09-01-2007, 15:14:14   #766
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just read "Monsieur Malaussene" by Daniel Pennac, an author I always overlooked.

Really original and enjoyable, although it gets messy in the end.

He might not be a giant of literature, considering his book are best sellers on the supermarket shelves here, along Camilleri and Banana Yoshimoto ...
but I got now anyway the first book of the Malaussene series (the above is the 4th one) "Au bonheur des ogres" and plan to catch up.
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Did you like Neuromancer IW? I'm a big fan, but i read it about 15 years ago and i wonder if some of the coolness and wow factor of it has been eroded by advances in modern technology, internet etc.

I'm quite a cyberpunk fan as a rule though, so i lap up all that kind of stuff. (Speaking of which did i mention i read 'The Diamond Age' by Neal Stephenson. Actually it's more of a steampunk thing but very good. However I haven't read Snow Crash, which seems to be his seminal work.)
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Did you like Neuromancer IW? I'm a big fan, but i read it about 15 years ago and i wonder if some of the coolness and wow factor of it has been eroded by advances in modern technology, internet etc.
I read it about 5 years ago and hated it
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China Mieville is good if you like steam punk. I've very nearly picked up some of Neal Stephenson's stuff several times. I think I probably will next time.

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Oh, I have bought all of his books. I liked his first stuff the best, but they are all good.

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Last night I read Solaris. It was very good, why didn't I read Lem before?
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IIRC I had read The Investigation and Return from the Stars, too, that was over 20yrs ago...
I have no memory of the details, I think to recall that I liked them too, although they weren't as compelling and immersive as Solaris.

Did you also try Stalker by the Strugatsky bros.?
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No. I did read His Masters Voice, which I also thought was very good.

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"Banana Yoshimoto"?!?!?!
did you bother googling her?

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I read it about 5 years ago and hated it
when I played a SMAC Team challenge in duo with Escher for Team Italy, he named instead all his Hive bases after Neuromancer!
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Did you like Neuromancer IW? I'm a big fan, but i read it about 15 years ago and i wonder if some of the coolness and wow factor of it has been eroded by advances in modern technology, internet etc.

I'm quite a cyberpunk fan as a rule though, so i lap up all that kind of stuff. (Speaking of which did i mention i read 'The Diamond Age' by Neal Stephenson. Actually it's more of a steampunk thing but very good. However I haven't read Snow Crash, which seems to be his seminal work.)
To be honest, I didn't find Neuromancer as exciting as I thought I would from its reputation. Possibly you're right, the wow factor has been weakened by technology nipping on its heels. Still a good read though; I'll probably try and get hold of more Gibson, and Stephenson, for that matter.

I read Snow Crash a few years ago, and thought it was excellent. It takes a (cyber-)world not entirely unlike that of Neuromancer, and adds an additional layer of wild implausibility, which totally hits the "sufficiently advanced technology" level.
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when I played a SMAC Team challenge in duo with Escher for Team Italy, he named instead all his Hive bases after Neuromancer!
You lost then didn't you?

Anway, I don't remember much from that book other then when I finished it I thought Gibson was a vastly overrated writer. I liked his short stories (Chrome something) better btw.
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Burning Chrome. And there's another called Mona Lisa Overdrive.
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You lost then didn't you?


no, that was the famous game where we Planetbusted into oblivion sorta 11 out of 14 JAMiAM's bases, in one single overnight wave.

All was left were black rifts in the map fabric itself, radioactive pools and monoliths in the middle of the ocean.

a fitting landscape for a SMAComancer narrative

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Old 12-01-2007, 10:34:32   #781
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Henning Mankell's 'Inspector Wallander' detective novels.

A charity shop near me sells all its books at 75 pence (regardless of size, quality or genre) so I've picked up a hardback first edition and some paperbacks (four in total since Christmas) by him.

I have never been to Sweden, although I've very much enjoyed Bergman's films, but I'd be interested to hear from any Swedes or anyone else who has read his novels and been to Sweden how accurate a picture he gives of the landscape and the society.


What I find fascinating is how often his characters mention the wind, wind speed and the temperature.


Must be like characters in English literature from Ireland and the U.K. talking about rain and cloud cover....
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I bet Scabrous Birdseed has read those, i seem to recall him having a detective novel fetish a few years ago.
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Old 12-01-2007, 13:20:04   #783
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Haven't read much literature recently, although I have three books at home that I've been intending to read in the near future. Still, so far I couldn't be arsed to. The books are Dead Souls by Gogol, Of Love and Other Demons by Gabriel Garcia Marquez and Elementary Particles by Houllebecq, FYI.
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Dead Souls is a wonderful classic, amazing and amusing.
I read it 25yrs ago and I strongly recommend it.
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What I find fascinating is how often his characters mention the wind, wind speed and the temperature.
Well, that's Skåne (southenmost tip of Sweden, culturally semi-Danish) for you. It's a nasty, cold blowhole for half the year, frankly. By contrast, Umeå (where I live - 1000 km to the north) has temperatures some 15 degrees colder generally, but is a pretty pleasant place to be in winter owing to the low humidity and protective mountain ranges. -8 here is lovely, +2 in Skåne is ghastly. In the same clothes.

As for the rest of the stuff, it combines cheap-thriller "serial killer" bullshit (we have exactly zero confirmed cases of the phenomenon in Sweden) with what the Swedes imagine is art, ie. male angst. Fucking horrible, though I've read (I think) all of them as a diversion a few years ago. I mean, they're not badly written by any stretch.

If you want a more interesting and groundbreaking set of Swedish thrillers, read Sjöwall-Wahlöö's Beck books from the seventies. They're grittier and more realistic on the one hand, and more darkly humorous and satirical on the other.
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As for the rest of the stuff, it combines cheap-thriller "serial killer" bullshit (we have exactly zero confirmed cases of the phenomenon in Sweden) with what the Swedes imagine is art, ie. male angst. Fucking horrible, though I've read (I think) all of them as a diversion a few years ago. I mean, they're not badly written by any stretch.


'Confirmed serial killers' just means that there probably are, but the notoriously unreliable Swedish police force has yet to identify the pattern...

Certainly in English translation, Wallander's work doesn't come across as:

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it's in a much less heightened form of English than one tends to find in the books of the more 'enthusiastic' writers of cheap thrillers.

I had the misfortune to read one such, by an American woman novelist, Karen Something or other, which I passed on to a woman friend of mine just to see that I was being hyper or unduly sensitive to what I found to be an unpalatable delight in regurgitating the forensic details of the murders and the disposition of the bodily remains.

That and most of the woman's characters were unlikeable in the extreme.

I haven't read anything by Wahloo, but I did read 'Blackwater' by Kerstin Ekman.
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That's one of the few female examples of the "Everything is bleak" genre that dominates swedish litterature. Everything from Strindberg on has been about death and misery.
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Well, that was good enough for me to go a bit mad and borrow another seven at the library. Wanna bet I'll get bored of them before I read half of the pile? That's what happened to Dorothy L Sayers last summer...
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Well, that was good enough for me to go a bit mad and borrow another seven at the library. Wanna bet I'll get bored of them before I read half of the pile? That's what happened to Dorothy L Sayers last summer...

Try Walter Mosley, Gar Antony Haywood, Robert Van Gulik or Didier Daeninckx.


Less creaky than Dorothy L. .

Or Chester Himes...
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I finally took some time to start reading again this weekend. I started off with the Epic of Gilgamesh, which is an interesting read already purely on the basis that it's the oldest known story of mankind. It's nice to see that over thousands of years and through different cultures, the interests of men don't really change much: power, sex, friendship, alcohol, it's all there. It also pretty much contains the Biblical deluge story in an earlier version.

I also read Lords of Chaos, which is a nicely written history of the Norwegian black metal scene and the excesses associated with it. It focuses a bit too much on all the crackpot ideologies and politics of people like Varg Vikernes instead of on the actual music, but if you've got a bit of an interest in (black) metal it's a good read.

I still have Houllebecq's 'Elementary particles', Gogol's 'Dead souls' and Garcia Marquez's 'Of love and other demons' on my to-read list.
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I stopped on the Ambler. It became a bit of a chore.

Since then I've been reading an anthology of "noir" novels of the 30s and 40s I borrowed from the library. (Yes, the term is fairly absurd but none of it is hard-boiled detective fiction.) The first twenty or thirty pages of "The Postman Always Rings Twice" are absolutely brilliant, didn't rate the rest of the book or "They Shoot Horses, Don't They?" as highly.

Then over the past few days I finished "Thud!" by Pratchett, easily the best in the series for several years and the best Watch novel since "Feet of Clay".
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I read the Amber stuff in entirety and it was a bit of a pain at the end. Fantasy just can't seem to be original IMO.
Just finished a slew of books, notables were Little, Big by John Crowley and Coma by some brit who wrote the script for 28 Days later. Read 'em.
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Just finished the third Latro book (read it in two days). I think I might start reading the Peake books (about the Castle.. can't spell it right now).

Amber wasn't as good for the 2nd set. There is original fantasy out there, and I think the first bit of Amber is. It is just that Amber was one of Zelazny's money makers so sub par made it through.

I sort of stopped buying new Pratchett (getting old Pratchett for my personal library when I feel in the mood). The old ones are mostly not as good as I remember, I think that only a few are great. I might have to check out Thud though (I like the Watch, Guard Guards and Men at Arms bet though).

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The Stars My Destination/Tyger Tyger! by Alfred Bester.

Nice ideas, thriller pace, good characters, good story, and 250 pages long. Highly recommended.

Now reading Factotum by Bukowski.
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Recently finished RIM by Alexander Besher. Modern sci-fi, kind of a buddhist/Japanese take on Cyberpunk.

Currently reading The Steep Approach to Garbadale by Iain Banks, his latest 'non-genre' novel. It's one of the more straight stories of his, real world setting and very good so far.
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Old 15-05-2007, 15:05:10   #798
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"The Island of the Day Before" by Umberto Eco. A friend gave it to me, random pickup at the airport after they confiscated the wine bottle he was gonna bring. I was amazed to find it not unreadable, which I had the impression Eco always was.
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'A Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovich' - Alexander Solzhenitsyn.

As part of The Independent's Banned Books Collection.

Nearing the end, short at around 125 pages, it tells of a standard day inside a Siberian Labour Camp. Highly detailed and meticulous, intentionally excruciatingly so at times, focussing on the small things which can make a day better and the ways in which fulfillment and honour can be found in the most adverse situations.

I have read other reviews which say it is an optimistic and uplifting read. I don't really agree.
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