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Old 11-12-2001, 16:26:33   #1
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10 great books no one else on the board has probably ever read

Here's my 10: I'm hoping to be proved wrong

The good soldier Svejk - Jaroslav hasek
A hilarious comic novel following a hungarian soldier's adventures through the first world war

The physiology of taste - M. Brillat-savarin
Paean to the gourmet lifestyle written by 18th century french writer

A rébours - J K Huysmans
19th century story of a hedonistic nobleman and the pursuit of various kinds of pleasures. A stunning book.

120 days of Sodom - Marquis de Sade
One of the most terrifying, insane, bizarre and awful books i have ever read. An experience rather than a novel.

Monkey - Wu cheng en
Remember the tv series? This is the original. Hilarious and captivating chinese mythology. Eat your heart out Harry Potter.

Naked Lunch - William Burroughs
a mad journey into a world of drugs, buggery and paranoia (not surprising given the first two). One of the greatest works of imagination of the 20th century.

Passovotchka - ?
Chronicles the visit of Dynamo Moscow football team to England in the fifties. Fascinating stuff.

Crash - J G Ballard
The writer Will Self would like to be. As Ballard put it, Crash was an attempt to: 'rub the human face in its own vomit and force it to look in the mirror.'

Saturday night, sunday morning - Alan Silltoe
Classic story of how society grinds down wild young single men and makes them into downtrodden married ones. Not as depressing as it sounds.

Ullysses - James Joyce
This is a gimme, no one has ever read it all
I've probably read half and it's still bloody great.
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Monkey - Wu cheng en
Remember the tv series? This is the original. Hilarious and captivating chinese mythology. Eat your heart out Harry Potter.

I wanted to read this but MikeG took it to Londinium with him. Bastard. Just 'cause he owned it...
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Old 11-12-2001, 17:58:46   #3
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A good mate of mine from Moscow is a Dynamo fan. His dad actually attended the Dynamo - Chelsea game and had an official programme which my mate donated to the Dynamo museum.

Good bars at Dynamo stadium BTW.
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I've read Naked Lunch (Ticket that Exploded as well) plus amost everything by Ballard (short stories especially good).

Spartak, have you ever read Mosckva-Petushki by Yerofeev by any chance? Has Mrs Spartak?
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Old 12-12-2001, 13:03:11   #5
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Monkey - Wu cheng en
Remember the tv series? This is the original. Hilarious and captivating chinese mythology. Eat your heart out Harry Potter.

I wanted to read this but MikeG took it to Londinium with him. Bastard. Just 'cause he owned it...
i have a copy - you can borrow mine
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Old 12-12-2001, 13:15:28   #6
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Zen and the art of Motocycle Maintenance.

i read this so i could impress the kind of arty college students i fancied at the time- but it turned out to be an interesting read- though a little difficult.

After two years my friend made me give it back.

Phaedrus lives.


Wonderland Avenue.

i read this so i could impress the girl i was going out with at the time. The guys dick turns purple and almost drops off at the end, so i decided not to try smack after all for the second time since that business at Grange Hill.

i have read other books too, and i can also draw.
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Old 12-12-2001, 13:30:18   #7
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Zen and the art of Motocycle Maintenance.

i read this so i could impress the kind of arty college students i fancied at the time- but it turned out to be an interesting read- though a little difficult.

After two years my friend made me give it back.
My mate Chuckle was reading that at university... for 4 years.
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Old 12-12-2001, 13:34:31   #8
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Yeah i've read this - hmmm...well it's quite heavy going and philosophically i'm not sure how sound it is...the author gets bogged down in a concept that he struggles and probably fails to define adequately. As a whole it's worth a read though.
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Old 12-12-2001, 14:04:15   #9
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It made me realise that yeah, the education system does suck- and is mainly the process of making everybody think the same, and nt bother to question things- and yeah- what exactly IS the nature of 'Quality'

the book certainly provokes thought. Only took a few weeks intensive reading though, the rest of the time was me saying

"whatdya want Pepper"
"have you still got my-"
"Get lost Pepper"

I study Homer you see.
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Going to school taught me that.
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Old 12-12-2001, 15:07:13   #11
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u went 2 scul!?

my sense of humour is so advanced its frightening.
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Old 13-12-2001, 23:05:08   #12
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I've read all of "Ulysses". It was a piece of piss.

"Finnegan's Wake" on the other hand.....
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is an Irish pub in Paris. (as, indeed, are two James Joyce's, an Oscar Wilde and a Kitty O'Shea)
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Old 14-12-2001, 13:48:25   #14
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Do they have toilets with fray and fyrn or something written on them too? i went for a piss in a Finnigans once, and there were lots of fyrns in the can, turns out fyrns are women. they didn't scream and go nuts at me though so... maybe next time.
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Laz, i meant the great Homer Simpson, not that other Homer guy your talking about. Tried to read the Illiad once, but it didn't entertain me, very poorly written, no structure, messy description- overwhelms the reader with characters that go by way too many names, not to mention the really unlikely situations, (a war over some guys girlfriend for chrissakes). that other Homer really sucks man, an ancient greek pensioner huh, well it shows.

The film version was alright though, if a lil dated.
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Do they have toilets with fray and fyrn or something written on them too? i went for a piss in a Finnigans once, and there were lots of fyrns in the can, turns out fyrns are women. they didn't scream and go nuts at me though so... maybe next time.
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Old 14-12-2001, 15:37:40   #17
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Thats the one Mikey, i like firs, i think- took me a little trial and error to discover i was a Finn, i think... oh damn i'm genderaly confused again, and with no pint of Guiness's patented ash-water-tasting iron supplement to jollify the experience... nooooo!

i might be a firasexual, how will i tell my parents!
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Old 14-12-2001, 21:19:33   #18
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Old 14-12-2001, 21:20:37   #19
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Ah. I've worked it out.

I was talking about James Joyce novels, not "The Iliad" or "The Odessey".
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Tried to read the Illiad once, but it didn't entertain me, very poorly written, no structure, messy description- overwhelms the reader with characters that go by way too many names, not to mention the really unlikely situations, (a war over some guys girlfriend for chrissakes).
hmmm i hope this was a joke - it hardly seems fair to talk about 'unlikely situations' when you're in a world in which the gods live on a mountain and their ruler often makes women pregnant in the guise of a bull, swan, shower of gold, etc.
I think a little suspension of belief is required for greek myth(!)

actually agree about the names thing though. it seems like every character has got two or three. Although i think one of the problems with this mythology is that they couldn't agree amongst themselves on a unified version of any of the people involved in the 'actual events'.

Robert Graves 'The greek myths' is a really good book that tries to provide an overview on the whole Greek mythological history whilst also noting the various versions of the same events.
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I found the Iliad really hard going for that reason too. Not only do the characters have several names but they are often refered to as things like "Odyssyus' third cousin's wife's friend's butler"

The gods are cool though and the story. It's still sitting on my shelf awaiting a time I can read it properly. It's too hard to think about in my usual reading time which is on the train on the way too and from work as I'm barely awake then.
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Oooh. Litterature. The only "real" literature I've read recently (ie. since I was forced to by my nefarious set of english teachers back in High School) is Lord Byron's Don Juan, which is goddamn marvellous- the Simpsons for the 19th century, really, disjointed drastic comedy interspersed by wacko pop culture references. Oh, and it's in Ottava Rima, which is a bit discouraging until you realise that it's the only verse form where you can make really dirty rhymes in triplicate.

(Okay, I also read some Sheakspeare plays. But they're just lightheaded fun.)
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My favourite book nobody read is Italo Svevo's ""La coscienza di Zeno"
" aka "Zeno Cosini". It's brilliant and very funny (I'm not sure if it's supposed to be funny).

http://www.ilnarratore.com/anthology/svevo/svevo.html
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"The good soldier Svejk - Jaroslav Hasek" I read that one when I was young.
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Spartak, have you ever read Mosckva-Petushki by Yerofeev by any chance?
I read that in German, "Die Reise nach Petuschki". Reading it made me drunk & sick.
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I read that in German, "Die Reise nach Petuschki". Reading it made me drunk & sick.
ok you guys have piqued my curiosity, what is this book about?
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He travels from Mos-cow to Petushki and drinks. No, he DRINKS. And his thoughts are getting more and more bizarre. He's getting sick, drinks, getting sick, drinks. Everyone drinks on the train.

The best book about getting really drunk and what it feels like.

http://cweb.middlebury.edu/s99/RU152...ev/mppage.html

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thanks, i'll see if i can track down an english copy
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Just read "Adventures in Bukhara" by Leonid Solovyev, a humorous adventure classic. Which no-one here will have read, except possibly the Russian speakers, because the only english edition was published in 1956 and now costs ~£50.
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Here's my 10: I'm hoping to be proved wrong

Naked Lunch - William Burroughs
I can think of two things wrong with that title.
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He travels from Mos-cow to Petushki and drinks. No, he DRINKS. And his thoughts are getting more and more bizarre. He's getting sick, drinks, getting sick, drinks. Everyone drinks on the train.

The best book about getting really drunk and what it feels like.

http://cweb.middlebury.edu/s99/RU152...ev/mppage.html
This reputedly one of (if not the) best samidazt novels from the time of the end of the soviet union.
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The illiad was a good read in latin, but the english version just didn't do it for me. it was virgilly unintelligable.
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Shakey baby, how could you stoop so low as to drag my highbrow thread into the world of bad puns? Shame on you.
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I haven't read any fiction in a very long time. School burned me out. Usually I lose interest halfway through.--but I read tons of non-fiction, just about anything

So I have been looking for new authors and think I like suspense (usually a faster pace), ergo why I picked up From The Corner of His Eye.

Better yet, was re-reading Jaws last year and the other shark book that Benchly wrote...Great White(?) Oh, well, it was fascinating and suspenseful.

I remember Zen/Motorcycle Maintenance from 10th grade. It still impresses me all I learned about motorcycles and road trips...like how a tire can explode if you drive at too high a speed on a very hot day...and the difference between riding in a car and on a bike...no comparison. I tried it, it's true. But as for the philosophy, I guess I missed it.

I've read A Hundred Years of Solitude and would like to read that again (by Gabrield Marquez(?)). Also, The Heart is A Lonely Hunter. (Koontz might learn something by reading that one.)

Lately I picked up a copy of Primary Colors and Battlefield Earth (10 cents each at the library). Not suspense, but looked interesting.

I saw the movie Beloved and was really impressed with the story and the way it was told. Would like to read that book next--has anyone else read it/seen the movie?
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He travels from Mos-cow to Petushki and drinks. No, he DRINKS. And his thoughts are getting more and more bizarre. He's getting sick, drinks, getting sick, drinks. Everyone drinks on the train.

The best book about getting really drunk and what it feels like.

http://cweb.middlebury.edu/s99/RU152...ev/mppage.html
The bit I liked was where he drew the graphs demonstrating the vodka consumption habits of the workforce and the observation that bborders were unnecessary because there were only 2 sorts of people - Russians who were drunk and non-Russians who were not. Hello Angels.

It is published in English now under the title "Moscow Stations".
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Yeah i have a hundred years of solitude but haven't motivated myself to read it yet. I think it's Gabriel Garcia Marquez.

Of Mice and Men is a fantastic little book. I tried reading East of Eden but it didn't agree with me. I bought a second hand copy of The Grapes of Wrath, and old penguin paperback from the fifties, but haven't started that either. I'd like to read Cannery Row too.

Just ordered 'Mosckva-Petushki' or Moscow Stations by Yerofeev from Amazon. £5.59 - bargain!
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Cool, can I borrow it when you've read it?
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Is that the version with the two bottles of vodka?
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i'm not lending mike two bottles of vodka - i know what would happen there
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I don't really drink much Vodka so it'd be OK... probably.
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Oh yeah. And I forgot to mention the cocktails that he makes as well. A very famous username comes from one of those.
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Yeah i have a hundred years of solitude but haven't motivated myself to read it yet. I think it's Gabriel Garcia Marquez.
King_Ghidra,
Please give it a try. The book is wonderful and one of the best examples of "Magical Realism." This book has also been recognized as one of the greatest novels of all time.

Gabriel Garcia Marquez was awarded the Nobel Prize for literature in 1982.
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Just ordered 'Mosckva-Petushki' or Moscow Stations by Yerofeev from Amazon. £5.59 - bargain!
just got my copy today!

From what i've read so far it looks hilarious!
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i check my hair at the elevator mirror and the highlight of my day when I say hi to a girl who's opposite of the elevator door at my floor. the one i went out with.
after that, it's the same old fucking thing all over again.
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Old 04-05-2002, 23:19:38   #49
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How was the book?
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Old 05-05-2002, 07:37:46   #50
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I think the problem many people have with Illiad and other ancient works is due to poor translation. I had no trouble at all with the version we used in college.

King Ghidra, the great thing about Steinbeck's books is how true they really are. As great a novelist as Steinbeck was, he was even more so a journalist. Grapes of Wrath can make you very angry, which it was written to do. I've yet to read Cannery Row, but from what I've read it's based on what happened in Steinbeck's life while he was in California.
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