Free Game of the Week - BBC Climate Challenge

Scabrous Birdseed · 12-02-2007, 12:47:59

Wow, golly, wee, kids, it's EDUTAINMENT!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/hottopics/cl...ate_challenge/

Actually, this is a very challenging turn-based state-management game where you have to balance your popularity rating, your resources, your impact on the environment and (most opaquely) your finances with a limited array of possible policy intiatives, some of which lead to new options in the future.

Koyaanisqatsi · 12-02-2007, 17:54:31

Well done indeed!

MoSe · 13-02-2007, 17:04:28

E87 W14 P88
You were the most popular leader most voters could remember and aimed to please when selecting policies. Some critics said that you did so only to avoid tackling difficult issues, but their voices were drowned out by the crowd.

\o/

JM^3 · 13-02-2007, 17:49:03

E 57 W 6 P 95

JM

Scabrous Birdseed · 13-02-2007, 18:05:14

Can anyone get a decent Wealth score?

JM^3 · 13-02-2007, 18:11:47

59 0 88

But I did go to mars.

JM

JM^3 · 13-02-2007, 18:31:23

E 78 W 32 P 48

JM

JM^3 · 13-02-2007, 18:47:41

E 80 W 39 P 50

JM

Fistandantilus · 14-02-2007, 16:18:50

I got wealth up to 51 but pretty much fucked the environment, RC would be proud of me.

Fistandantilus · 14-02-2007, 16:20:17

Quote:

Originally posted by JM^3

But I did go to mars.

Yeah, I'm quite disappointed that going to Mars only benefit your popularity.

Funko · 14-02-2007, 16:54:14

I'm amazed I was so popular considering the poor economic conditions.

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm · 14-02-2007, 17:57:37

I guess I'm spoiled by other games that simulate an economy, in that a surplus you tend to have during one turn tends to carry over and continue to increase in the next. Not in this one: implementing meat in vats apparently only provides a short-term 10 year boost to food supplies.

I also don't understand their emissions model. At one point I had -54 megatonnes of emissions projected for the turn. Next turn, I was projected as having an increase in emissions of 220 megatonnes. You'd think with the entire economy powered by advanced fusion, households powered by local wind turbine sand solar cells, and hydrogen fuel cell cars that emissions wouldn't suddenly jump the next year. But, they do.

Despite that, though, it's fairly interesting. My best is a duplicate of Funko's screenshot above.

Scabrous Birdseed · 14-02-2007, 18:03:57

From the developer notes:

Quote:

In testing, it was found that having policy cards lasting for several turns was too complex for the scale of the game. Therefore the duration of all the cards has been artificially compressed to give all their modifiers in one single turn. This means that a card's effects are much higher in the short term than would be the case in real life. Behind this there is also a necessary assumption about how many turns a card is in play. We have assumed that power and carbon dioxide effects are in play for five turns (50 years), and food and water effects for 10 turns (100 years).

RedFred · 07-05-2007, 05:08:20

Fun, but not very realistic.

A side issue to the duration compression problem mentioned above is the last turn seems to determine your popularity. I ran at 100% popularity most of the game and introduced a number of unpopular measures (including the Carbon Police!

) and I got a dismal approval rating.

I wish the game designers would not impose their political views on the game model. Many important innovations like going to Mars should give more future tech options. Hosting the Olympics is going to mean a huge influx of cash and infrastructure improvements like mass transit for my fair city. The game had negative cash, food, CO2 & water for the Olympics.

Finally, there either needs to be more food options or more ways of controlling population growth.

Lurker the Second · 07-05-2007, 18:39:24

goddammit. 7 turns into this and I closed the game by accident.

MDA · 08-05-2007, 12:26:14

lowered taxes twice and imposed none, got a 2% wealth rating, 80ish environ and 100% popularity

so much for decreasing taxes to jumpstart the economy

Venom · 08-05-2007, 12:31:18

I'm guessing this isn't the most complex simulator. Economy bad! Environment good! Never the two shall meet.

MoSe · 08-05-2007, 12:33:00

you'd get Envy and Economironment

Beta1 · 20-05-2007, 09:28:06

I used this with my year 10 class last week.

Most of them got the idea pretty quickly but almost all of them got repeatedly voted out of office.

C.G.B. Spender · 20-05-2007, 13:53:05

Bah, give them cars, car, cars and TV!

Public AE's AE · 21-05-2007, 19:22:14

No matter how well I do on the economy, I always seem to get a shitty wealth score. It seems quite impossible to please the economists in this game.

C.G.B. Spender · 21-05-2007, 20:35:44

Fascists

12-02-2007, 12:47:59	#1
Scabrous Birdseed for your usergroup and post count Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Among the clouds	Free Game of the Week - BBC Climate Challenge Wow, golly, wee, kids, it's EDUTAINMENT! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/hottopics/cl...ate_challenge/ Actually, this is a very challenging turn-based state-management game where you have to balance your popularity rating, your resources, your impact on the environment and (most opaquely) your finances with a limited array of possible policy intiatives, some of which lead to new options in the future.

12-02-2007, 17:54:31	#2
Koyaanisqatsi everything... and nothing Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: the glass house	Well done indeed! __________________ my other sig is a sig sauer

13-02-2007, 17:04:28	#3
MoSe Cutie of Hearts Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: my karma ran over my dogma	E87 W14 P88 You were the most popular leader most voters could remember and aimed to please when selecting policies. Some critics said that you did so only to avoid tackling difficult issues, but their voices were drowned out by the crowd. \o/ __________________ WHEN A JOKER SWALLOWS, HE DOES IN JEST RELATIVISM IS AN ABSOLUTE VALUE ALL TWATS IN THE DARK ARE GAY Nostalgia isn't what it used to be THIS IS MY LAST POST !!!

13-02-2007, 17:49:03	#4
JM^3 colossal bender Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In front of my computer	E 57 W 6 P 95 JM __________________ The G in Greg stands for Gaylord.

13-02-2007, 18:05:14	#5
Scabrous Birdseed for your usergroup and post count Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Among the clouds	Can anyone get a decent Wealth score? __________________ Birdseed's Tunedown

13-02-2007, 18:11:47	#6
JM^3 colossal bender Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In front of my computer	59 0 88 But I did go to mars. JM __________________ The G in Greg stands for Gaylord.

13-02-2007, 18:31:23	#7
JM^3 colossal bender Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In front of my computer	E 78 W 32 P 48 JM __________________ The G in Greg stands for Gaylord.

13-02-2007, 18:47:41	#8
JM^3 colossal bender Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In front of my computer	E 80 W 39 P 50 JM __________________ The G in Greg stands for Gaylord.

14-02-2007, 16:18:50	#9
Fistandantilus Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001	I got wealth up to 51 but pretty much fucked the environment, RC would be proud of me.

14-02-2007, 16:54:14	#11
Funko Pubs Minister Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Banned	I'm amazed I was so popular considering the poor economic conditions.

14-02-2007, 17:57:37	#12
Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm Not National Zombie Awareness Month Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gnawing at your brain	I guess I'm spoiled by other games that simulate an economy, in that a surplus you tend to have during one turn tends to carry over and continue to increase in the next. Not in this one: implementing meat in vats apparently only provides a short-term 10 year boost to food supplies. I also don't understand their emissions model. At one point I had -54 megatonnes of emissions projected for the turn. Next turn, I was projected as having an increase in emissions of 220 megatonnes. You'd think with the entire economy powered by advanced fusion, households powered by local wind turbine sand solar cells, and hydrogen fuel cell cars that emissions wouldn't suddenly jump the next year. But, they do. Despite that, though, it's fairly interesting. My best is a duplicate of Funko's screenshot above. __________________ Not annoying anyone with my signature since 2011!

07-05-2007, 05:08:20	#14
RedFred Now living life 0.1 hours at a time Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Slowly succumbing to a more powerful culture	Fun, but not very realistic. A side issue to the duration compression problem mentioned above is the last turn seems to determine your popularity. I ran at 100% popularity most of the game and introduced a number of unpopular measures (including the Carbon Police! ) and I got a dismal approval rating. I wish the game designers would not impose their political views on the game model. Many important innovations like going to Mars should give more future tech options. Hosting the Olympics is going to mean a huge influx of cash and infrastructure improvements like mass transit for my fair city. The game had negative cash, food, CO2 & water for the Olympics. Finally, there either needs to be more food options or more ways of controlling population growth.

07-05-2007, 18:39:24	#15
Lurker the Second CG Economist & Canadian of the Year Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Away way off, Across the seas and such, Lies the little flat land, of the Dutch, Dutch, Dutch	goddammit. 7 turns into this and I closed the game by accident. __________________ Lurker: The most dangerous of the basic sea units.

08-05-2007, 12:26:14	#16
MDA Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: updated his email address and can look but not post	lowered taxes twice and imposed none, got a 2% wealth rating, 80ish environ and 100% popularity so much for decreasing taxes to jumpstart the economy

08-05-2007, 12:31:18	#17
Venom Look out behind you! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rudolph's stable	I'm guessing this isn't the most complex simulator. Economy bad! Environment good! Never the two shall meet. __________________ TO MY BALLS!!!!! or TO LazyView!!!!

08-05-2007, 12:33:00	#18
MoSe Cutie of Hearts Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: my karma ran over my dogma	you'd get Envy and Economironment __________________ WHEN A JOKER SWALLOWS, HE DOES IN JEST RELATIVISM IS AN ABSOLUTE VALUE ALL TWATS IN THE DARK ARE GAY Nostalgia isn't what it used to be THIS IS MY LAST POST !!!

20-05-2007, 09:28:06	#19
Beta1 [works only in german, sorry] Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: here	I used this with my year 10 class last week. Most of them got the idea pretty quickly but almost all of them got repeatedly voted out of office. __________________ I've got ham, but I'm not a hamster...

20-05-2007, 13:53:05	#20
C.G.B. Spender Burggespenst Lülü Join Date: Nov 2001	Bah, give them cars, car, cars and TV! __________________ https://soundcloud.com/toax/sets/toax-risiken-und

21-05-2007, 19:22:14	#21
Public AE's AE Superfriendly neighborhood AE Join Date: May 2007 Location: nowhere	No matter how well I do on the economy, I always seem to get a shitty wealth score. It seems quite impossible to please the economists in this game. __________________ My password is public.

21-05-2007, 20:35:44	#22
C.G.B. Spender Burggespenst Lülü Join Date: Nov 2001	Fascists __________________ https://soundcloud.com/toax/sets/toax-risiken-und

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