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Old 18-04-2006, 10:20:02   #1
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LWP 9 Songs of Innocence and Experience - Part 1

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Old 18-04-2006, 10:37:13   #2
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Seems to be some problems with the formatting on Kitsuki's comments, his name is appearing in the entry above.

Good entertainment as always though
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Old 18-04-2006, 10:59:22   #4
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Hey, I used to post on the same forum as Trapezoid. In fact, I still occasionally do. I think it's safe to say I was among the first thousand or so people to see his first Animutations, and understood the Dan Simon reference...
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Old 18-04-2006, 12:56:25   #5
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So, why do the brits hate dance music pre-87?
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Old 18-04-2006, 13:05:12   #6
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Why did you pick such a bad example of pre '87 dance music from which to base such a generalisation?
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Old 18-04-2006, 13:06:15   #7
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Tis a great song not bad
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Old 18-04-2006, 13:51:09   #8
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What's great about it? I don't get it.
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Old 18-04-2006, 13:59:21   #9
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So, why do the brits hate dance music pre-87?
To be fair, I dislike dance music post-87 as well.
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Old 18-04-2006, 14:02:21   #10
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I like some dance music before '87 and some after.

After '87 the music was mostly still shit, the drugs were just better.
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Old 18-04-2006, 14:28:40   #11
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So, why do the brits hate dance music pre-87?
they are too seriously sirius and, in the case of KG, old
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Old 18-04-2006, 14:42:16   #12
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I don't hate it, I just think it's ok. The kind of music that I only get exposed to by cheesy wedding DJs. Although I'd probably drunkenly dance to it at a wedding I'd be hoping they'd play something better.

Scabby's response said "the soul kids go insane".

I have no idea where you would find a soul kid in the UK let alone enough soul kids to necessitate an entire night.

It's very one dimensional and repetitive. Yes, it's got a beat you can dance to, but that's all it has. The lyrics are utterly inane, the vocal is borderline annoying and I've heard that bassline 1000 times.
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Old 18-04-2006, 15:48:17   #13
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See, another american weighs in with a positive sentiment, thus confirming the statistical division. It's another woman as well unfortunately.

We used to have a soul night at a night club in York, it was fairly standard Northern Soul and Funk but attracted a fairly interesting subsection of the indie crowd, plus people like me who preffered black music. That's basically the soul crowd here too. "She's a Bad Mama Jama" gels surprisingly well with Motown, "Tainted Love", the O'Jays and the rest of the 60s and 70s stuff that seems to be considerably less divisive.

I'm not going to try to defend my track to someoen who doesn't like it. (It would be fairly pathetic.) Just remember that the value of a track changes depending on the context where it's heard... This works brilliantly in a dancefloor setting.
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Old 18-04-2006, 16:05:38   #14
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There are tracks that I'll enjoy in a dancing situation but would never listen to in a non dancing situation.

One problem I guess you will have is that I never listen to my LWP CDs in a dancefloor setting...

But in general "is it danceable" isn't something I consider in whether I like something I not.

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Old 18-04-2006, 16:23:38   #15
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I think I'm taking out my annoyance about the "Brits don't like dance music before 1987" comment out on the song, which isn't that bad.
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Old 18-04-2006, 17:27:41   #16
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I just dont like dance or cheese period; I make no distinction about some 1987 watershed in quality of said excuse for music.
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Old 18-04-2006, 17:42:15   #17
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I assume Johan is talking about Thursday nights downstairs at the Gallery. I went a couple of times, it was full of indie-poseurs that Snappy would usually be seen dead within several miles of...
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Old 18-04-2006, 18:37:13   #18
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So, why do the brits hate dance music pre-87?
If you were old enough to remember what discos and nightclubs were like before 1987, you wouldn't need to ask that.

This was the mainstream that Indie was kicking against in the mid to late 80's, and it's that growing Indie scene that was the genesis of the bands that were so exciting to the British posters born between 1970 and 1980.
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Old 18-04-2006, 18:44:03   #19
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Are Mew really Denmark's biggest band? I'd have thought The Raveonettes were bigger.
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Old 19-04-2006, 07:33:51   #20
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Saybia are denmark's biggest band.
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If you were old enough to remember what discos and nightclubs were like before 1987, you wouldn't need to ask that.

This was the mainstream that Indie was kicking against in the mid to late 80's, and it's that growing Indie scene that was the genesis of the bands that were so exciting to the British posters born between 1970 and 1980.
Yeah, that's what I figured - in the UK 80s I guess even the more hardcore and undergroundey black music (the kind you'd hear on the average Funky Collector compilation) was the enemy for you lot.

Am I right in saying that was not the case in the US to the same extent, except in isolated pockets? I mean, you'd never get the Roxy thing going on in the UK.
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Are Mew really Denmark's biggest band? I'd have thought The Raveonettes were bigger.
I may have slightly exaggerated... but they are very big there.
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Old 19-04-2006, 16:28:46   #23
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Yeah, that's what I figured - in the UK 80s I guess even the more hardcore and undergroundey black music (the kind you'd hear on the average Funky Collector compilation) was the enemy for you lot.


Not in the slightest. That was a totally different scene. The hardcore dub/reggae/hiphop scene in 80's Britain was hip but terrifying.

That track you selected was typical of the mainstream meat-rack glitzy disco "10 pints of wifebeater and a knee-trembler with a 40-year-old checkout girl" evening. The hardcore black music was fascinating, but you knew you'd get mugged in the clubs.
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Old 19-04-2006, 16:29:33   #24
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Saybia are denmark's biggest band.
Who? They don't appear to have exported well.
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Unfortunately not. They're rather good, in a Carpenters-meets-Flaming Lips kinda way.
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I never heard most of the songs for these things. However, I do enjoy reading how each of you respond. Good stuff! Glad it's back.
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Old 30-04-2006, 04:58:44   #27
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laz ws wrong about the ladies saying "aww" about the crayola song. i found it disturbing, too.
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are we still waiting on the comments for experience? seems to only be innocence.
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Thanks Wombat and Scabby, I now have 5 sets of reviews.
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I've got everything, I've just been too busy to put it together. Hope to send out comments today.
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Yay! We're going to have an argument about that when it's published.
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When is it being published...? I blame Funko. For everything.
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Waiting for responses to tracks 1 and 8.

Can I have them by Monday?

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