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Old 19-12-2003, 13:50:16   #351
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the US, like the rest of first world powers, are remarkable for their vulnerability, not strenght : a group of 20 lunatics with paper cutters can bring us to our knees in one day.

Because of this dissymetry of means, the only long lasting solutions are political. I'd like to see more US powers, not less, on the 4 issues that fuel terrorism : illegal Israel west bank colonies, Kashmere conflict, Chechnya genocide, stabilisation of Afghanistan. On all of these, the US have enough economic and diplomatic clout to impose fair solutions. I don't mind the US being a cop, but if you take the role, you have to slap the wrists of some of your dear friends too.
problem is the police are notoriously corrupt
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Old 19-12-2003, 13:51:39   #352
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Yeah, apparently Sting was siphoning cash out of the accounts for years.
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Old 19-12-2003, 13:54:12   #353
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lol

Funko you're on top form today
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Old 19-12-2003, 13:55:19   #354
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Old 19-12-2003, 13:57:20   #355
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Old 19-12-2003, 13:57:36   #356
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I can't believe I got a laugh out of the old Police/Sting pun.
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Old 19-12-2003, 13:58:52   #357
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I saw a Bill Hicks video once where he was talking about Sting's tantric sex claims and he said 'the man hasn't come in 8 years- he must be backed up like a wax dart!'

I nearly split my sides
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Old 19-12-2003, 14:02:08   #358
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Which is what eventually happened to Sting.
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Old 19-12-2003, 14:04:29   #359
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Old 20-12-2003, 21:32:10   #360
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Old 24-12-2003, 11:26:34   #361
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And accidental loss of unarmed bombs is a demonstration of might now? One of those german pilots who train in the US desert may just go gaga and crash into Las Vegas.

Actual US power is very limited. All that US rightwing and euro leftwing babble about the hyperpower is just moronic bullshit.
It wasn't a demonstration of might. It was an example of how some 21 year old American, flying some American hardware, could reach out and touch you directly. You were stating that NOTHING America does can directly touch you.

I do not remember making the reverse claim that America was invulrnerable to direct German influence or actions.

Nor did I claim that America is a hyperpower. That's just PR BS, as far as I'm concerned, and that's something you brought up, not me. And another typical Roland shift of subject. Is it worth discussing? I don't see that we have a disagreement on it being a BS PR label.
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Old 24-12-2003, 11:34:15   #362
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the US, like the rest of first world powers, are remarkable for their vulnerability, not strenght : a group of 20 lunatics with paper cutters can bring us to our knees in one day.
That's because our "National Security" is geared towards defending against aggressive nation states, not against the lone guerilla willing to commit acts of aggression against civilians that are illegal on a inter-National State conflict.

Basic Airport security, for instance, has been traditionally seen as local (corporate or local government) issue.

As is common in "War", we are always prepared against the last war fought, and not for the new form it takes.

I'd like to hear serious "Political" solutions. Giving the palenstenians anything is not going to stop terrorism. Unless we allow the Palestenians to kill all the Jews. But even then, there will be other "grevious" complaints. Such as Westerns in *near* holy sites (like, Saudia Arabia, Iraq, Jordan, Syria, etc). And Western programs being broadcast on the radio and television... and Western satellites over-flying Holy Land and the buffer space they need to defend it, etc etc etc...
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Old 24-12-2003, 11:36:22   #363
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You were stating that NOTHING America does can directly touch you.
I was not talking about me individually.

As for the rest * fap fap fap *
There goes the thread
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Old 24-12-2003, 11:38:52   #364
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It certainly seemed like you did, Roland. Hell, otherwise, it would be pure DREKKUS IDIOCY to claim that nothing that America does affects Germany. Our nations are too interdependant. (Global Economy, and all that )

Humm... the sound of Roland retreating? Quick, someone PM NYE...
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Old 24-12-2003, 11:41:01   #365
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"It certainly seemed like you did"

No.

"claim that nothing that America does affects Germany."

I didn't claim that either.

NYE would be very happy with you, I just wonder why it is so fascinating for you guys to argue against strawmen.

Now let the thread die.
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Old 24-12-2003, 11:46:16   #366
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Either your English skills have really started to suck, Roland, or you just don't have the energy to lie or misdirect well. You stated rather clearly that you did not believe that America could do anything to affect you directly, only indirectly. Not Germany, you.

Perhaps you are tired and need a nice vacation?

And you argue a lot of strawmen. Why do you do it? Perhaps we can examine that, and see if it might not apply elsewhere?

I tend to argue strawmen when I am being faceious, as I feel my simple sarcasm just isn't strong enough to be communicated clearly in this medium.
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Old 24-12-2003, 11:48:18   #367
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I can't believe I clicked on this thread and waited for it to load.
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Old 24-12-2003, 11:50:04   #368
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Really! It's over 2 pages! Don't bother if your connection is slow...

Or even fast. Unless you are really, really, bored at work.
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Old 24-12-2003, 15:52:15   #369
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