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Old 19-06-2014, 21:16:25   #1
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Old 20-06-2014, 08:26:36   #2
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Old 20-06-2014, 08:27:44   #3
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what's the average reaction in England?
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Old 20-06-2014, 08:37:37   #4
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Mild disappointment.

I don't think before the tournament many people really thought we were going to get out of the group, URGay having such a bad first game, and us playing quite well against Italy gave us a bit of hope.
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Old 20-06-2014, 09:09:20   #5
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Nice match though. Both teams were good.
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Old 20-06-2014, 09:29:51   #6
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Uruguay really got it right tactically. Pressed our defenders hard, high up the pitch, correctly realising that they aren't quite technically good enough to cope with that. Put extra men in midfield, used Cavani to disrupt Gerrard.

But still in both games it was incredibly close, they should have had their captain sent off for a second yellow card, Rooney hit the bar in both games we came close and we have a very new, young side in transition.

2010 was much more depressing even though we stayed in for longer, because we were so dull and uninspiring and playing much lower quality teams.
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Old 20-06-2014, 09:34:51   #7
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...2010 was much more depressing even though we stayed in for longer...
You can still win the fucking cup! God this negativity, so british.


Depressing.
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Old 20-06-2014, 09:38:19   #8
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Old 20-06-2014, 11:38:33   #9
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You needed Sterling and Sturridge to be as aggressive as they were against Italy and they weren't. Part of that is because of the urgay tactics as you mentioned, but overall they weren't as good as last game. It's amazing how much direct, aggressive dribbling can unlock even an good, organized defense.

But hey, it was miles better than the usual knock it about the back with 5 yard passes for 5 minutes and then launch a ball into a box packed with 6 defenders and 2 attackers that happens too often.
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Old 20-06-2014, 18:12:29   #10
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Thanks a lot Italy.
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Old 20-06-2014, 18:28:26   #11
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Costa Rica was aggressive, but Italy was poor. I think they tanked it on purpose.
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Old 21-06-2014, 07:49:23   #13
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Old 21-06-2014, 08:52:37   #14
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Old 23-06-2014, 00:01:45   #15
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Seriously USA? Aren't you supposed to lose at 'soccer'?
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Old 23-06-2014, 01:42:00   #16
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That was a loss. Between giving it up at the end, and the Ghana - Germany result, we're in trouble now.
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Old 23-06-2014, 04:56:00   #17
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If Germany and US just quietly agree to not do shit in the game, they both advance.
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Old 23-06-2014, 07:40:28   #19
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Would be lekker if Portugal would be kicked out
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Old 23-06-2014, 08:43:45   #20
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Old 23-06-2014, 08:44:17   #21
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Can Germany go out? That'd be best.
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Old 23-06-2014, 11:16:21   #22
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If we were to beat Germany by...2 or more goals, and Ghana were to blitz Portugal by 3 or 4, then possibly.

Basically Germany has to lose and Ghana has to win, and somewhere in that equation a 5 goal goal difference needs to be made up.
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Old 23-06-2014, 14:10:16   #23
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Old 23-06-2014, 15:22:14   #24
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so, let's do it
That sounds familiar.
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Old 23-06-2014, 17:52:52   #25
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Yeah, 1974 allover again
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Old 29-06-2014, 17:43:43   #26
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the italy -england game was one of the very few I saw and one i enjoyed very much.

that said, I hope the flight back home was uneventful for both of you
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Old 29-06-2014, 18:07:48   #27
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Netherlands, 87th minute heart stopper.

Edit: "The Netherlands had somethin' in dem, an dey squeezed it out".

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Old 29-06-2014, 23:02:59   #28
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Old 30-06-2014, 08:18:32   #29
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I guess Pieter died during that match.
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Old 30-06-2014, 11:35:22   #30
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Old 30-06-2014, 16:23:24   #31
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Football is a game played by 22 players and in the end the Dutch win.
Bet you wore the orange with pride yesterday
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Old 30-06-2014, 16:25:33   #32
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avtually after the 1-0 from mechico i was quite convinced we would win the game
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Old 30-06-2014, 17:07:20   #33
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I did.

It was also hilarious because we have van Nistelrooy in the ESPN studio after/between games and Ruud and some mexican dude were trying to argue ever so politely about the penalty call.
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Old 30-06-2014, 18:17:21   #34
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5 days and the Dutch will show the Angliesj how to beat Costa Rica
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Old 30-06-2014, 19:42:59   #35
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It's also called soccer instead of football when you play without falling to the ground in agony every time someone gets into your personal space.
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Old 30-06-2014, 22:51:14   #36
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Old 01-07-2014, 22:33:07   #37
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fffffffff congratulations Belgium
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Old 01-07-2014, 22:34:49   #38
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Welp, that's that. We were poor and deserved to lose. But dang that sucks.
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Old 01-07-2014, 22:37:13   #39
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Hold on a minute playa! 2-1!
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Old 01-07-2014, 22:59:31   #40
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Yedlin is a hell of a player, why was he sitting on the bench the first three games? Wondo was awful tho. Great match anyway, kudos to the us for believing till the end
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:17:05   #41
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Yeah, he was a live wire. I'm not sure Klinnsman had his tactics and lineup right this game in general.

I didn't expect to win, but I also didn't expect to get dominated the entire game, and I think our tactics had a lot to do with that. Plus our midfield couldn't pass or trap, which makes keeping possession difficult.
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Old 02-07-2014, 09:15:29   #42
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Pfffff. I thought you were excellent. It's a team of very limited ability up against a very good Belgian side. Belgium might not have been slamming goals in but they've been very, solid extremely hard to score against and winning, just like they did in qualifying.

The organisation and exceptional work rate of the players and the Secretary of Defence kept you in the game, and you had chances to take it to penalties at the end.

Getting out of that group and being in the game against Belgium on 120 mins is better than anyone in the world expected before the tournament. You guys should be proud of the team.

The pundits on our TV were gushing about the US team, not for the quality of play, but the determination, teamwork, never say die attitude. Extra time was probably the most entertaining 30 mins of the tournament.

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Old 02-07-2014, 09:20:43   #43
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Classic cup football.
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:40:52   #44
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I think all of those things are true, and I think the guys on the fields worked their asses off. I'm just not sure Klinnsman helped them much at all.
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:13:03   #45
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Why, should he? Wouldn't that be against the rules?
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:15:48   #46
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:26:03   #47
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You would have brought him on to take a penalty!

I don't think he's just a motivator, but he must have at least had a lot to do with the intensity of the performance (thinking back to Germany 2006 as well). And what he did was working, and very nearly worked.

As you said Venom, your choices are limited when your midfielders are of moderate ability.

Though I did think Michael Bradley was excellent.
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On Bradley I cannot agree. His work rate was excellent, but he was a turnover machine. His passing was terrifically inaccurate as was his control. As said, we're limited in that area, but that made his play only hurt the worse. We have no one better than him. But he needed to be our best player. And with no Donovan, Bradley needed to be the driving force going forward. You could see it, he'd drop deep, everyone would defer and give him the ball, and he'd give it away. Yedlin (and Fabian Johnson) and even Beasely were far more effective down the flanks, and I don't think anyone would have guessed that before the tournament.

Jermaine Jones was our best field player, I think.
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