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Old 17-07-2014, 08:30:40   #1
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Plus the game actually works and they give you lots of statistics, so most of the work you did is done for you already.
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first things I see:
(rules & scoring differences apart)

5-2-3 is allowed!

most expensive 15 (ignoring 3ppt) 131.5m
cheapest 15 (idem) 64m
with just 3 outfield autosubs available, you'll still have to find & choose someone who has a chance to earn some points, not a regular bench-(or stands-)sitter...

naaahhh... besides, I know barely nothing about EPL players except top ones, and I know I'd force mysel to stay at the office till 9PM on fridays, or to play last changes mainly from mobile, for which I should purchase the app....
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Old 17-07-2014, 16:10:41   #8
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could I join in, say... at gameweek 8 ?
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naaahhh... besides, I know barely nothing about EPL players except top ones, and I know I'd force mysel to stay at the office till 9PM on fridays, or to play last changes mainly from mobile, for which I should purchase the app....
EPL knowledge doesn't often translate into fantasy knowledge, I did just fine in the past and I'm certanly no expert. The only real big difference from the fantasy world cup is player values change during the season so identifying undervalued player early on is important.

I never had problems accessing the site from a smartphone in the past (unlike the frigging world cup one) and didn't even know an app existed.

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could I join in, say... at gameweek 8 ?
Funko is naive As an italian (and thus a cheater by nature) I read that question as "Can I register a gazillion teams and then join the League later with the best one of those? Will points earned in previous rounds count?"

I'm not sure if they count but I'd prefer people to join at the start

I have always had some trouble in august as I don't exactly know who the actual starters are and so on, I usually spend the wild card for transfers early to address that
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Old 17-07-2014, 19:59:34   #10
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Yes. You can use that code to join at any week. I think it's already been proven a couple of times that starting at week 2 can be better than starting at week 1.
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Old 18-07-2014, 12:24:56   #11
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I bet he did mean that too. Sneaky bastard. Being British and therefore cripplingly naive it
never occurred to me.

I think your points in the league only count after you join the league, but I'm not sure. Maybe it counts your total.
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Old 18-07-2014, 12:25:20   #12
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So the answer is - you can join after gameweek 1, if the team is new at that gameweek.
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Picked a squad already that looks pretty awesome. Likely to change of course before kick off depending on future transfers and injuries and pre season form maybe. Without the likes of many top level stars like Suarez or Ronaldo and Henry previously who took a big chunk of your budget i'm finding my money is going a bit further.
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I've picked a squad which looks rubbish.

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Old 12-08-2014, 00:00:15   #16
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I'm thinking of having a go this year at the Ultimate Dream Team. Pick a squad of 25, and suit it to fit each gameweek with only 2 transfer windows throughout the season so no tearing your hair out about what transfers to make each week and also the prices stay the same too.
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so, you lured me into this, and we're just nine???

I've picked a team based purely on past season performances, this meant choosing players I had NEVER heard about
(OTOH before WC 2014 I had never heard Lallana or Mirallas either... )
Then adjusted it a bit to optimise the starting 11, downgrading the bench to the cheapest possible who had assured nevertheless a fairly constant presence on the pitch

Of course this entailed:
- no players coming from outside premier league (Sanchez, Diego Costa...)
- no players from the 3 newly promoted teams
- no guaranteee that a player who scored a lot (in game points) last season, will repeat a similar performance in this one
- no insights and previews on initial good form of players who might perform well in first two gameweeks... having also no practice about managing fluctuating prices and only 1 free transfer per GW...

oh, well, that's Fantasy

I'll be happy if I finish 2nd to bottom

BTW, once I got in, I had decided to shed with £5 and try the Ultimate one too, which rules and features I liked indeed better.
But those buggers implemented as sole Age Verification method the input of a passport number, and I don't have one, so...
(I've thought of "borrowing" one from a friend, too much hassel tho)
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another info which could be crucial but I've no clue about is, who played below average minutes/games last season, because...:
he was injured, but will probably play most games this season (unless he's injury-prone indeed)
he was loaned out of EPL (or brought in) in January, so played just half season
he had stronger players before him in his team, who now moved out (or will be injured for a while, see Negredo), so he ll' find more time on the pitch now
or moved to a new team where he's gonna be more important than in the former one (...Lukaku?)

...or just because he's actually a "second line" who'll come up only now and then in his manager view, and will remain such this season too....

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see for instance a couple fwd who played 10ish games last season:

CRY Gayle, with a top rank ~7ppg, at just £5.5 would be a great pick if only he'd play more games
why did he play just 10? will he stil just be a Campbell/Chamak backup? no idea

WHU Cole, ~6.5 ppg at £5
all current Hammers fwd played wery few games, or none, last season. Who were the main WHU strikers, did they move elsewhere? Even with Carroll in "Ankle injury - Unknown return date", the team bought Enner Valencia, and Zarate, who are both priced more than Cole... should this mean that according to FPL they should get playing time ahead of Cole? will Cole play more tha 10 game this season or sit on the bench most games as 3rd or 4th fwd? no idea

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YAY! I predict our Fantasy Football threads are now going to get a lot more posts.

This is a useful site, haven't paid for membership, but their fixture ticker summarising who has what games coming up is really useful, the main reason I use it.

http://fantasyfootballscout.co.uk
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This is a useful site, haven't paid for membership, but their fixture ticker summarising who has what games coming up is really useful, the main reason I use it.

http://fantasyfootballscout.co.uk
I had seen the site when googling Fantasy Premiere from mobile but hadn't visited it yet
had decided to bring in Mutch pre-GW1 even before reading their advise anyway.

I found also rather useful this one
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28346161
I had found from mobile...

If only I had read it BEFORE jumping on Lambert as FWD Value Bargain...
I said, hey, 32 played games last season, 5.7ppg average, at just £7.5 he's a must-have!
8% FPL managers agreed with me too
only later I realised he played all those games with SOU last season!
and with so many LIV offensive players categorised as MID, they actually played a 4-5-1 by FPL standards, with Sturridge as sole FWD. Did they actually bought such a prolific striker only to keep him as BACKUP fwd on teh bench??? At least he got in in the end as LIV needed to win, and indeed they scored 3 minutes later (alas he wasn't involved in the action).

damn (and thinking I had considered Naismith as cheap 3rd fwd in my watchlist, but dismissed it after EVE bought Lukaku...)

BTW, I found BBC Live Scores page MUCH MORE useful and readable from mobile than the BPL site one. Don't you think so? or is it just me?
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Did they actually bought such a prolific striker only to keep him as BACKUP fwd on teh bench??? At least he got in in the end as LIV needed to win, and indeed they scored 3 minutes later (alas he wasn't involved in the action).
It's an interesting question, they strengthened the squad at least in part because they are in the Champions League this season, and will rotate players, so he'll get games but not sure how many. He's also getting on a bit 33 or 34 or something. Hence his cheap price despite playing for a top side.

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BTW, I found BBC Live Scores page MUCH MORE useful and readable from mobile than the BPL site one. Don't you think so? or is it just me?
Oh yes absolutely.

If you can get the BBC Sport app in Italy that's quite handy.
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Gayle was injured for a lot of the season.

I would expect Valencia and Zarate to get more game time than Cole, though I think Valencia is injured for the start of the season.

The price usually indicates which players are in favour and likely to play more than others. It's not always right, but it often is.

A safe start of picking proven performers like you've done is a decent initial strategy. I have gone with some new signings, but normally I avoid it....

I've got no-one from City in my lineup at the moment. I just don't know who'll play, and Yaya is ridiculously expensive. Of course if he's as good as last year... hmm.
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I have gone with some new signings, but normally I avoid it....
http://www.fiso.co.uk/forum/post2591483.html#p2591483
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Re: fluctuating prices and paying for transfers.

It's a REALLY difficult balance.
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OK, I revamped my team from mobile, at 2am, while watching Halep-Sharapova (GO SIMO! actually go anyone playing against schmarapova...)

picked more perfect strangers, taking risks with those who had a better ppg albeit a bit less games (27-30 instead of 32+)

I'm SURE I'll regret it

I'm still VERY undecided btw Lukaku whom I dislike, but will be now the main terminal of EVE attack, GW1 vs LEI, and Dzeko who I like, 0.5£ less, +1ppg, but as you said who knows who'll play in MCI? Negredo injured, but Aguero now fit?
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Of course as a rookie I couldn't wait to check 1st matchday results
and how the game interface n mechanism worked, esp from mobile
I won't bore you all with details you're well accustomed with

I will just consider...
- I'm not last
- I'm the top furriner
- 5 of 6 teams ahead, are counting scores from 7, 8 or 9 players, while I still have 6 to play in last 3 matches, who can add to my score and hopefully let me fill the gap and join in with the midtable pack
- NOT counting the x2 C bonus, I got 22p from 5 players, making for a 4.4 avg. Well, that's decimally the best in the league so far
- then, of course, I botched with the band and gave it to Lukaku hoping he'll easily score @LEI... made Wayne only Vice, wating thus 5p
- I see most of you invested in Ramsey. He was on my watchlist. At £9 it was either him or Gerrard... I know this is getting old n might not repeat last season top performance, but I lack insights abot why Ramsey played just half games last season, so...
- I also see that almost all who have Ramsey made him captain too, nice 10 xtra pts
- but 3 of you have Sigurdson and left him on the bench! lol

all in all not a terrible debut

I long for last games to see how 1st GW ends
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bear with me...
I enjoy the thrill and excitement of following rankings as they develop step by step, even within a single matchday with staggered fixtures
otoh FPL themselves update tables as games take place...
I'll give it a try as it' s 1st time...
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bear with me...
I enjoy the thrill and excitement of following rankings as they develop step by step, even within a single matchday with staggered fixtures
otoh FPL themselves update tables as games take place...
I'll give it a try as it' s 1st time...
OK, I realise you all probably don't even READ this thread in the weekends...
I'll refrain to clutter the thread in such way in next GWs, limiting it maybe to Monday Nights previews
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Top6fin 41  8 - 3  31 10  -
Balls   48 10 - 1  41  7  -
Stairwl 34  8 - 3  33  1  -
Glum Fb 35  8 1 2  27  7  1
4-1-6   31  5 - 6  21 10  -
Belmont 62  9 1 1  39 10 13
Monkeys 28  7 1 3  25  2  1
Trollsl 37  8 1 2  29  6  2
Schubbe 36  8 1 2  31  2  3
I tried to anticipate last match bonuses, and subs too

it looks like I'm gonna to end GW1 at the bottom...

it's too difficult from mobile anyway, it took me all 1st half of next match, already underway... (in counting plyers still to play [>] I counted MCI ones too, and didn't add their partials yet.
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It is interesting as the gameweeks develop how things go.

One rule you might not be aware of is the Wildcard, you get 2 a year, one at any point in the year, and one to use in January after the transfer window.

It means you get unlimited free transfers for a week so if you want to radically redesign your team after a couple of weeks it's a good option.
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It is interesting as the gameweeks develop how things go.

One rule you might not be aware of is the Wildcard, you get 2 a year, one at any point in the year, and one to use in January after the transfer window.

It means you get unlimited free transfers for a week so if you want to radically redesign your team after a couple of weeks it's a good option.
I had read it, thanks anyway for the heads-up

I was indeed planning to wait a few weeks before using it
I thought I'd better let current season stats to develop so I could rely on them for an "informed redesign"

OTOH I saw lotsa FPL managers "rush" to transfer Sigurdsson in as soon as, or even before, first match ended.
Is it maybe bc they foresaw his tranfers surge, and as it will surely cause a Price Rise (and indeed he's the first and only one at 10.1), they wanted to be the first in?
Are things that quick and volatile here?
I thought sheeplike to all flock behind the first who scores... we know players who fluke then go dry for a long while (see Hamsik last Serie A season)... otoh SWA has two upcoming homers vs BUR & WBA

a "sinlge" free trasnfer offers limited options
much more useful to make 2 joint ones, so you can upgrade your main objective while downgrading a collateral, making up for budget
so I was planning to wait at least GW2 to use the saved FT
I have so few pts that shelling 4 on a transfer seems a folly to me at this point: still don't feel confident enough to gamble that the one I bring in will score 4p more than the one I sent out in next GW - unless that's on a longer term plan, but maybe that's manageable as well by "diluting" changes with FT only, or with a right-moment wildcard...
will have to learn that with experience

OTOH (again) because of "market dynamics", the longer I wait the more a desirable goal might get expensive, while my "outbound assets" will depreciate, drastically reducing my "manouvre window"...

was this again about economics, or football???
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Gah, Craig has Siggurdson on the bench to come on, so he'll be on 62.
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GW1 - 1 match to go preview

remarkable formatting yesterday btw, from an old Galaxy S3...

as I said, as subs get added in FPL site only at the end of the whole GW, I tried to anticipate them
after all they're rather obvious and the "formation respect" subs rule seldom has to be applied (so far)

some explanation:
I try to count the # of players used to build up the total, breaking them down in Starters and players form Bench who already are sure to get in.
I also highlight the # yet to play: ">" (either starters, or from the bench in case you have an absent starter and 1st sub hasn't played yet).
Then I break down Starters points from those I added for known subs, separating also the Captain points.
We see indeed that between Giroud and Ramsey, there's a 9 points "Captain gap"
and even with a good team, a wise or wrong choice can make all the difference in the table (at least roundwise)

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        gw  S B >   S  C  B
Belmont 62  9 1 1  39 10 13  2      Cahill
Trollsl 52 10 1 -  44  6  2  -      -
Balls   48 10 - 1  41  7  -  2      Diego
4-1-6   44  8 - 3  34 10  -  1,3    Cahill, Ivanovic, Fabregas
Top6fin 41  8 - 3  31 10  -  9,1,-  Terry, Hazard, Diego
Schubbe 36  8 1 2  31  2  3  2      Cahill, Hazard
Monkeys 36  9 1 1  33  2  1  1      Terry
Glum Fb 35  8 1 2  27  7  1  13*    Filipe Luis, *Diego
Stairwl 34  8 - 3  33  1  -  3,13,5 Terry, Hazard, Fabregas
with "avlB" I anticipate the points available from the Bench, in case those yet to play fail to do so
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- you can see that Trollslottet have completed their GW and to the 50p showed in the current table they'll only add 2p from Fraizer Campbell in place of Geoff Cameron
- while Belmont are already sure to sub Ben Davies, bringing in Sigurdsson's 13p! with Cahill yet to play too
- for 4-1-6 I don't report the 1p available from 3rd sub, as they have 2 Def to play and only 1 Def left on Bench, so they won't be able to use all 3 subs in any case
- Top 6 have 9p from Clyne ready as 1st sub, so they might actually "hope" that one of their 3 Chelsea players doesn't play tonite
- Stairwell look to have taken an escalator going the wrong way if all their 3 Chelseas play tonite, they'll leave 21p on the bench, while starters Arnautovic, Bojan & Giroud only got 5 together. Giroud also turned out to be the worst Captain choice...
- Glum can only use 13p fron 3rd sub in place of Diego Costa. In Defense they alredy used O'Shea in place of cameron, and 2nd Def sub Figueroa didn't play. So, if Mou doesn't employ new signing Filipe Luis (favoring for instance Terry-Cahill-Ivanovic-Azpilicueta) they'd keep a 0 in Defense, and if Diego Costa plays (how can't he?) they'd lose out points unless he scores 2
Re: my Infinite Monkeys, FPL table currently places me 6th, but all teams behind me (and by just 1 or 2 pts) have more players to play tonite, so I'll probably end GW1 at table bottom, as I had posted earlier
that's just right, I pay the rookie toll
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- Top 6 have 9p from Clyne ready as 1st sub, so they might actually "hope" that one of their 3 Chelsea players doesn't play tonite
- Stairwell look to have taken an escalator going the wrong way if all their 3 Chelseas play tonite, they'll leave 21p on the bench, while starters Arnautovic, Bojan & Giroud only got 5 together. Giroud also turned out to be the worst Captain choice...
- Glum can only use 13p fron 3rd sub in place of Diego Costa. In Defense they alredy used O'Shea in place of cameron, and 2nd Def sub Figueroa didn't play. So, if Mou doesn't employ new signing Filipe Luis (favoring for instance Terry-Cahill-Ivanovic-Azpilicueta) they'd keep a 0 in Defense, and if Diego Costa plays (how can't he?) they'd lose out points unless he scores 2
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28735901

Chelsea
13 Courtois
26 Terry
24 Cahill
02 Ivanovic
28 Azpilicueta
08 Oscar
21 Matic
14 Schürrle
04 Fábregas
10 Hazard
19 Diego Costa

Substitutes
01 Cech
03 Filipe Luis
05 Zouma
09 Torres
11 Drogba
12 Mikel
22 Willian

barring any last minute warm-up injury, Clyne 9p will stay on the bench for Top6, as will do Sigurd's 13p for Stairwell and Glum.
Glum will also get a 0 in Defense as they'll field only 2 defenders, unless Filipe Luis gets on underway

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        gw  S B >   S  C  B
Belmont 62  9 1 1  39 10 13  2      Cahill
Trollsl 52 10 1 -  44  6  2  -      -
Balls   48 10 - 1  41  7  -  2      Diego
4-1-6   44  8 - 3  34 10  -  1,3    Cahill, Ivanovic, Fabregas
Top6fin 41  8 - 3  31 10  -  9,1,-  Terry, Hazard, Diego
Schubbe 36  8 1 2  31  2  3  2      Cahill, Hazard
Monkeys 36  9 1 1  33  2  1  1      Terry
Glum Fb 35  8 1 2  27  7  1  13*    Filipe Luis, *Diego
Stairwl 34  8 - 3  33  1  -  3,13,5 Terry, Hazard, Fabregas
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Sorry MoSe, I was reading your posts and looking at peoples teams in two windows, I now see you'd said the same thing in your own tabular format.

I almost hope one of my Chelsea players doesn't play with Cline sitting on 9 points. Was so excited when he scored, I forgot I benched him.
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I don't think Chelsea will smash Burnley, they were very strong at home last season.
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I don't think Chelsea will smash Burnley, they were very strong at home last season.

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I am one of those people. It's because starting prices are in 0.5m increments, if he goes up 0.1m I can't afford him without dropping an extra 0.5m of price from somewhere.

And I made 2 transfers.

Making too many early transfers and losing early points is normally my downfall.

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It's because starting prices are in 0.5m increments, if he goes up 0.1m I can't afford him without dropping an extra 0.5m of price from somewhere.
I know... :sad:
I'd say "whatever", I'll have £0.4 in the bank to use in later transfers.

the main problem is, to make a SINGLE FT you need to make it in the SAME position
And I hadn't 6.0 (or 6.5 by now) MIDs in my team, to bring him in I'd have to move out GERRARD.... that'd leave me with £2.9 in the bank, not just 0.4

OR, I make 2 Transfers spending 4pts for the 2nd, allowing me to move out Mutch or Shelvey from MID, and make a £1.0 downgrade in another postition

in FWD I'd happily now part from Lukaku 9.0 or Lambert 7.5 indeed

in DEF I'd be sad to renounce to Fonte 5.5, albeit there's Chester at 4.5 with favorable upcoming fixtures and already 30k IN trasnfers now
otherwise I'd have 6.5 Terry, or 6.0 Ks (Kolarov and Koscielny, who's btw my only DT), and this would only open Dier at 5.5 with 38k INs
maybe still better Chester for Fonte than Dier for Kolarov

...Or Jovetic for Lukaku? ...Or Berahino for Lambert (and an extra 1.0)?


venturing in a 3rd transfer this GW would seem instead "out of my league" for me
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Should I focus on Sigurdsson, I can't wait after GW 2 tho or I'd miss BUR (H), and in such case i'd have to do it TODAY, as I figure he won't limit to a +0.1 price rise...
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I can't wait after GW 2 tho or I'd miss BUR (H), and in such case i'd have to do it TODAY, as I figure he won't limit to a +0.1 price rise...
Yeah, that home game was a key driver for me too.
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venturing in a 3rd transfer this GW would seem instead "out of my league" for me
LOL, it got to my head and I got carried away letting it get out of my hand...

I feel like a minnow plunging in headfirst with the sharks


now I wanna see those damn priceses SKYROCKET!!! :bangs fist:
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Your plan of waiting 'till GW2 and making 2 then is more sensible, but you might find yourself priced out of some players by 0.1/0.2m.
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you might find yourself priced out of some players by 0.1/0.2m.
that's exactly what I meant in my obscure way

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OTOH (again) because of "market dynamics", the longer I wait the more a desirable goal might get expensive, while my "outbound assets" will depreciate, drastically reducing my "manouvre window"...
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- LOL, I now have 4 DT players in my team: Monkey see, Monkey do
- for GW2 I ended up to bench... Gerrard!

As I too often use to say here: "I KNOW I'll regret this"

Should change team name to Regretful Monkeys
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As I too often use to say here: "I KNOW I'll regret this"
Should change team name to Regretful Monkeys
GREAT
I had my 2 tr complete, Sigurd+Berahino for Shelvey+Lambert...
OK? NO, I HAD to spend 4 more pts for a 3rd, as Rosenior was yellowflagged and Chester on the rise
Here: early red card, and further -2p
Net result: a -6p decision
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Good job, it saves me the disgrace of the red lantern.

In other news, I'm an idiot who for two weeks in a row forgot to change the captain from the default choice, therefore playing twice with non-scoring Graziano Pelle as captain. Twice doubling 2 points. Bugger.
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Puzzling tranfers

Rooney 11.3k INs, *but also 3.2k OUTs
Sturridge 6.2k INs, *but also 3.6k OUTs

*despite they both scored
(Sturridge might be partially justified by two upcoming tough away games)

Diego Costa 9.6k INs and 1.7k OUTs, BEFORE he even played his first!

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