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RedFred 09-01-2004 20:00:03

I can give a solid two thumbs up to Quicksilver by Neal Stephenson. Not as funny as Snowcrash but what is?

Now I am part way through on book 2 of L.E. Modesitt Jr.'s Legacy series.

BigGameHunter 09-01-2004 20:26:24

I am reading a historical bit titled "Mutiny on the Globe" about a crazed New Englander in the early 1800's who slaughters his captain and attempts to build a fascist Utopia in the pacific islands.
Started off agonizingly slow but is starting to pick up a bit.

Noisy 10-01-2004 11:12:53

Now reading 'An Old Captivity' by Nevil Shute. Set in the 1930s, around a flying expedition to Greenland.

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm 10-01-2004 18:45:13

DS: Anders Sandburg? Nope. It was on a Singularitarian mailing list, and more of a general recommendation to list members.

Cumber 11-01-2004 03:13:32

Currently reading Steven Brust's Jhereg serries (I think that's how it's spelt?). Right at this second in between Teckla and Taltos.

Darkstar 13-01-2004 07:42:32

Qaj, yep, the one and only. :)

Cumber, I dimly remember the Jhereg. How many books are in that setting/series now?

Noisy 17-01-2004 11:20:21

The Nevil Shute book was very good. Astounding view of how people saw the world before you could buy a ticket to virtually anywhere on the planet just by wandering to any number of travel agents in your local High Street.

Now reading 'Permutation City' by Greg Egan. First of his that I've read. This one explores artificial intelligence and virtual reality.

Lazarus and the Gimp 18-01-2004 14:51:33

"Riddley Walker"

Noisy 19-01-2004 12:31:31

I don't think I finished that, because I just couldn't get to grips with the way that the writing was presented, even though that was the whole point. Went to see the play at the Royal Exchange in Manchester.

Mr. Bas 19-01-2004 16:56:01

I finished both 'The catcher in the rye' by J.D. Salinger and 'Vernon God Little' by DBC Pierre a couple of weeks ago, I liked both a lot. After that, I haven't read much, not any books at least. I have a copy of The brothers Karamazov lying around, but I haven't started yet... The size of it is a bit intimidating.

King_Ghidra 19-01-2004 17:06:34

the prose is quite dense too. I'd suggest starting with the shorter dostoevsky stuff if you haven't read it already, e.g. crime and punishment.

Mr. Bas 19-01-2004 17:25:13

I haven't read anything by Dostoyevsky so far. I might check if the library have something shorter by him...

Lazarus and the Gimp 19-01-2004 20:36:51

Quote:

Originally posted by Noisy
I don't think I finished that, because I just couldn't get to grips with the way that the writing was presented, even though that was the whole point. Went to see the play at the Royal Exchange in Manchester.
I'm sorry, but the thought of you attempting to read "Riddley Walker" has actually left me helplessly weeping with laughter. I can imagine the author receiving a list of spelling corrections running to 20,000 words.

Noisy 19-01-2004 20:55:05

:D

jsorense 20-01-2004 16:19:19

Dune: The Butlerian Jihad by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson.
There are some mildly interesting bits in it so far.

QtFLW@Work 20-01-2004 22:41:33

Noisy: What did you think of Permutation City?

Noisy 21-01-2004 00:45:06

Halfway through it, and yet I still feel as if I've yet to really get into it. It plays around with some areas that I'm getting interested in a bit more: consciousness and AI. I'm reading GEB (slowly), and I've just bought 'Consciousness Explained' by Daniel Dennett (but it may be a while until I get around to reading that).

BigGameHunter 21-01-2004 06:01:21

Well, if you like PK Dick and are interested in consciousness, you must have read "A Scanner Darkly" by now, right?
I can imagine the first self aware AI's having issues along the lines of the protagonist's.
Or, better yet, the Valis trilogy (the have it under one cover these days). Talk about an exploration of messed up psyche.

Sean 22-01-2004 16:08:59

Quote:

Originally posted by jsorense
Dune: The Butlerian Jihad by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson.
There are some mildly interesting bits in it so far.

I read the first two of their prequels and think you pretty much hit the nail on the head: mildly interesting. If you’ve read either of those, how does it compare?

I’m reading The Hard-Boiled Wonderland and The End of the World.

alsieboo 22-01-2004 20:02:34

just finished robert rankins 'hollow chocolate bunnies of the apocolypse' and just starting 'the witches of chiswick' by the same author

JM^3 22-01-2004 21:16:01

Quote:

Originally posted by Cumber
Currently reading Steven Brust's Jhereg serries (I think that's how it's spelt?). Right at this second in between Teckla and Taltos.
the best in this series is the phoneix guards

Jon Miller

Lazarus and the Gimp 22-01-2004 22:16:09

Finished "The Clerkenwell Tales" by Peter Ackroyd, and now starting "Riddley Walker" in earnest. It's very good.

jsorense 24-01-2004 08:26:56

Quote:

Originally posted by jsorense
Dune: The Butlerian Jihad by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson.
There are some mildly interesting bits in it so far.

Well I finally finished it. All and all, don't bother.
I thought the whole treatment of the "thinking machines' was totally off base.
The writhing was "hoo huum" but that isn't too surprising because most of Frank Herbert's writing was hoo huum too.

Scabrous Birdseed 24-01-2004 09:24:19

The Cambridge Companion to Crime Fiction. I'm... not entirely... sure exactly... why.

Lazarus and the Gimp 24-01-2004 15:09:54

The only crime fiction I've seriously read is Derek Raymonde. There was some unpleasant stuff in that man's head.

jsorense 27-01-2004 16:02:47

I ust started The Peacewar by Vernor Vinge (1984). I am on page 63 and enjoying it a lot so far.

Nills Lagerbaak 27-01-2004 17:34:12

Just finished the alchemist.

SOme interesting things in there. Very simply written, could be a fairy tale or something, but quite poignent

QtFLW@Work 27-01-2004 18:58:14

Quote:

Originally posted by jsorense
I ust started The Peacewar by Vernor Vinge (1984). I am on page 63 and enjoying it a lot so far.
I read that and the sequel a few weeks back. Good book(s). Though the end of "Marooned in Realtime" was a tad confusing at first read.

Qweeg 28-01-2004 11:45:15

I read that book, I really enjoyed the first story, and although I liked the concepts and ideas shown in the second story, I was really disappointed that Vinge seemed to abandon everything he'd built up for reader to care about from the first story (the characters, their world, what happened next etc).

QtFLW@Work 28-01-2004 16:32:10

Warning jsorense, warning! Spoilers ahoy!



The books were some of a few that addresses Vinge's concept of singularity, a point in time where technology advances to the point where if it was plotted on a graph, it would suddenly go straight up - a spike, of sorts, beyond which you can't even begin to imagine what society would be like.

The Peace War deliberately slowed the pace of technological advance from real-world levels (some estimates put a real-world Singularity as soon as 2020, as late as 2080 or beyond for really conservative estimates) so Vinge could tell a cool story :) without having to squash it all into a few decades (his perception of 'time until the Singularity' from the date the book was written).

Marooned... was supposed to have been a drastic break from the previous book, as it was trying to capture a possible outcome of a sudden Singularity on human society. The first book was pretty much just elaborate setup for the second book, trying to show what happened when the human race 'transcended' their humanity.


Vinge's Fire Upon the Deep was another tale that setup somewhat elaborate obstacles to a Singularity to tell a specific story.

jsorense 28-01-2004 20:50:36

Thanks for the comments guys.:)

I just finished and it was pretty good. However, it got to be a little too Ender's Game at the end for me. A book I think is way over rated IMHO.

Oh, I liked the setting, almost like having take place in my backyard.

Hmmm, I just noticed that Card published Ender's Game a year after The Peacewar. Oh, and they are making a movie of E'sG now.

Mr. Bas 29-01-2004 14:16:09

I still haven't had the courage to pick up Dosteyevski, so I started on I Jan Cremer instead. It's a pretty enjoyable book IMO.

Sean 30-01-2004 21:42:05

The Professor and the Madman.

jsorense 31-01-2004 19:58:37

The Korean War: The West Confronts Communism by Michael Hickey.
This is written by a Brit so that Commonwealth troops are highlighted. He is also happy to point out any U.S. shortcomings.
Refreshing.:)

Noisy 01-02-2004 12:12:53

Well, I've finished 'Permutation City' now. I must admit that I read it in rather a fragmentary fashion, and didn't pick up on the time jumping about in the first half of the book (because I hardly ever bother reading chapter titles), but I'm still not that impressed. It doesn't pass the test of whether I'd pass it on to my father to read, I'm afraid. I think it deals with pretty big concepts, but the answers are simplistic. I wouldn't tell people not to read it, but then again I wouldn't recommend it.

Sean 01-02-2004 12:15:48

Quote:

Originally posted by Sean
The Professor and the Madman.
Subtitled A Tale of Murder, Insanity, and the Making of the Oxford English Dictionary. Great read: I love Simon Winchester’s history books.

Noisy 07-02-2004 00:37:14

Now reading 'A Devil's Chaplain' by Richard Dawkins.

Vincent 07-02-2004 07:50:52

http://www.krimi-couch.de/images/boo...grosse-bob.jpg

Scabrous Birdseed 07-02-2004 09:33:05

I've grown a bit bored of The Cambridge Companion, currently reading Dance of Life: Popular Music and Politics in Southeast Asia by Craig A. Lockard.

Scabrous Birdseed 07-02-2004 20:03:58

I'm currently reading a text file containing a scene-for-scene description of the storyline of all the Resident Evil games.

Darkstar 07-02-2004 20:05:13

Scabby, that sounds like a serious cry for help! Should we dispatch the Betan Emergency Psych teams?

Scabrous Birdseed 07-02-2004 20:12:01

It's fascinating meta-literature in a way. You keep wanting to find out what happens next, yet there's no actual narrative in there. It's like a hyper-compressed suite of novels.

Lazarus and the Gimp 07-02-2004 20:39:08

"St Dunstan- his life, times and cult" by Prof. Lapidge.

BigGameHunter 08-02-2004 00:46:41

"House of Sand and Fog" by Andre Dubus III. Pretty good.

QtFLW@Work 10-02-2004 17:43:42

Quote:

Originally posted by jsorense
Oh, I liked the setting, almost like having take place in my backyard.
The fact that I moved to California and then reread the book knowing the geography it was set it enhanced my appreciation of the book when I read it a few weeks back.

King_Ghidra 10-02-2004 17:56:09

Quote:

Originally posted by BigGameHunter
"House of Sand and Fog" by Andre Dubus III. Pretty good.
So what happened to Andre Dubus I and II? I think we should be told.

BigGameHunter 10-02-2004 22:52:25

They probably never existed. What nom de plume would be good as a "I" or a "II"?

Noisy 15-02-2004 09:45:56

Now reading 'Dead Air' by Iain Banks.

Qweeg 17-02-2004 11:47:24

Quote:

Originally posted by jsorense
Thanks for the comments guys.:)

I just finished and it was pretty good. However, it got to be a little too Ender's Game at the end for me. A book I think is way over rated IMHO.

Oh, I liked the setting, almost like having take place in my backyard.

Hmmm, I just noticed that Card published Ender's Game a year after The Peacewar. Oh, and they are making a movie of E'sG now.

Really... a movie of Enders Game you say?

Noisy 17-02-2004 12:56:02

Now reading 'The Last Three Minutes' by Paul Davies.


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