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Funkodrom
07-01-2002, 14:17:41
There are loads of really good old games out there that we haven't played. Seems like people are discovering classic older games all the time. Why don't we just buy them and ignore new games until we find out after a couple of years that they actually are classics?

FunkyFingers
07-01-2002, 14:26:51
Plus then there's a chance that the game will actually run on what ever computer you've got and not need an upgrade :D

Funkodrom
07-01-2002, 14:32:38
And if you buy the budget release it'll probably come with all the patches.

Vincent Fandango
07-01-2002, 14:48:39
I buy a lot of older games ...

Funkodrom
07-01-2002, 14:54:11
Well you are an older person. ;)

Venom
07-01-2002, 14:59:53
I've found myself looking back at quite a few "older" games that, at the time they came out, I didn't find them too interesting at full price. Now, however, they're great buys.

Funkodrom
07-01-2002, 15:10:26
Maybe it'd be worth people doing 'Classic Games' reviews along with the new game reviews.

Venom
07-01-2002, 15:40:03
Not a bad ideaer.

Spartak
07-01-2002, 16:58:55
I'm a cheapskate but i haven't bought a game in a year

Beta1
07-01-2002, 17:03:54
Right I'm inspired. Time to bunk off work early and head for the megastore and browse the budget racks!!!!

Its not like I'm actually working anyway!

Funkodrom
07-01-2002, 17:06:17
Hurrah!

Fistandantilus
07-01-2002, 17:08:00
Don't know, I sometimes buy old games but...

I recently bought Fallout 1&2 at something like 5$ and well, I'm not playing them at all.

I played Fallout 1 at time it went out and found it great, now it really seems dull. Compared to BG2 or Torment for example it shows poor NPC interaction, absolutly crap graphics (this one was expected) and a general sense of boredom (spending my time trying to kill rats with a gun is not exactly my idea of fun)

Fallout 2 is much better, expecially visually but both the interface and gameplay are quite limited. The story is great but the game really shows it's age.

The same thing happened with Dune 2. A friend of mine was digging through old floppy disks and found it. I remebered how much I enjoyed that game and soon after the game was loaded.

Then...
oops, there isn't a hot key for selecting idle villagers...
oops, I can't queue the production of units..
oops, I can't select multiple units simultaneously! I have to issue orders one freaking unit at a time!!!!
:cry:

I don't want to try and play something like Pirates! now. I have a too good recollection of it.

About 'classic reviews':
what about reviewing Europa Universalis 2 instead?
Or do I have to buy the game and write it myself? ;)

Funkodrom
07-01-2002, 17:09:13
Sounds like a good idea to me. :D

Spartak
07-01-2002, 17:13:58
MikeH the recruiter. :coolgrin:

Funkodrom
07-01-2002, 18:48:39
Well I'm sure people don't just want to listen to my drivel.

Fistandantilus
07-01-2002, 19:03:08
Originally posted by MikeH
Sounds like a good idea to me. :D

Not really, my spelling and grammar are worse than those of an illiterate.

Venom
07-01-2002, 19:35:38
I need to get around to writing another review, but the only games I'm playing right now are sports games and CM 00/01.

When I get around to buying a game you people are interested in, I'll write another review.

Any suggestions?

Vincent Fandango
07-01-2002, 19:45:28
Warcraft III

Venom
07-01-2002, 19:50:26
Oh, who hasn't played that one yet.

Funkodrom
07-01-2002, 22:19:34
I'm interested in sports game reviews.

Venom
08-01-2002, 00:08:32
I've got NHL 2002 and FIFA 2002 sitting right here.

Funkodrom
08-01-2002, 09:19:21
If KG does the Pro Evo Soccer review we could get the FIFA 2002 one as a comparison. :)

King_Ghidra
08-01-2002, 11:49:23
compare fifa to iss? funniest thing i've heard all year :D

actaully that sounded like a chastisement for not doing the review - sorry, i'm too busy working at work, and playing champ manager 01-02 at home - Forza fiorentina!!!

ok, mike i promise to give it another go this week :o

Funkodrom
08-01-2002, 11:52:34
No, that wasn't what I meant at all whenever you have time. Be good to see what you come up with though. :D

King_Ghidra
08-01-2002, 12:11:13
oh back to the thread - umm i agree with the original premise here. I bought an N64 second hand for about thirty quid after Edge voted the two best games of all time as Zelda Ocarina of Time and Mario 64 on N64. It wasn't a mistake (although i don't totally agree with Edge).

My boss plays pac man proably as much as Return to Castle Wolfenstein and both of us have had an amazing amount of entertainment from the MAME arcade emulator (Double Dragon anyone?). (Remember Salamander, Mike?)

In fact i had a great time playing Laser Squad on my Spectrum emulator this year as well.

Oh and Chrono Cross on my SNES emulator.

If a game is really good, i don't care when or where it came from.

Guy
08-01-2002, 13:27:29
Old games?

Look here:

http://www.theunderdogs.org/



Lots of reccommendations and reviews of some great classics, not to mention a lot of free downloads to try them out as well.

Lots of great old games out there, no reason why we should focus only on the latest and greatest.

Funkodrom
08-01-2002, 13:31:40
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
(Remember Salamander, Mike?)

Yeah, would have played that a lot more if it wasn't for the fact you had to load the levels up every time you died. Annoying.

Funkodrom
08-01-2002, 13:32:33
The ripple gun was great, and it had a mix of upwards scrolling and sideways scrolling levels.

King_Ghidra
08-01-2002, 16:35:31
i'll send you the mame emulator and the ROM sometime - it's only little...

Tizzy
08-01-2002, 17:04:22
This has made me want to resurrect my old Atari :D

Sirius Black
08-01-2002, 18:07:44
Yah, Old games are good. Especially when they are at prices to justify buying a game you are unsure of.

I mean, I liked playing the demo of American McGee's Alice when it came out and was thinking of getting it, but all the reviews said it was a little shallow, so I'm waiting until it is like $20 (probably already is), so I can justify buying it. Hell, the graphics are still amazing (and they'll actually run on my machine :D).

FunkyFingers
09-01-2002, 13:33:48
if you wait a bit, great games always end up cheap - I picked up Deus Ex for 20 quid, System shock 2 for 18 quid and yesterday I got Serious Sam for 9 quid. Excellent almost-new game entertainment for not much buckage.

I had an Atari 2600 emulator a while back, had great fun playing some of those old games. Pac Man, Pitfall, Battlezone...

Guy
09-01-2002, 14:11:23
Pitfall! I'd forgotten that game. I can't believe how much of my time I wasted on that. RiverRun (I think that was what it was called) was my favorite, though.

FunkyFingers
09-01-2002, 15:20:46
I always thought the Activision games for the 2600 were superiour. River Run was good, there was a starship fighting game they did too - Ultimate Starfighter, or Starpath or something, that was good too.

Chris
09-01-2002, 17:12:28
It's an interesting point, about buying new games.
I haven't, in years.
I used to buy new games all the time, back in the ol NES days.
That system had so many games that were good, then came Sega, then SNES, then the 32 bit systems, then 64...PC games, DOS based, then all the rest...

I quickly came to understand that unless I was a millionaire (not even close) I couldn't possibly keep up, so I stopped trying.

I remember when you got a game, you would take it home, play it endlessly, hope for hints, feel that triumph at passing some rough spot, be it a tricky manuver, or a tough boss, and feel so good about it, only to find that some stupid kid knew a better easier way then the hours you spent doing it!:mad: *little bastards!* :bash:

But I digress, the point was, I used to enjoy it so, and now, years later, I rarely feel that special game feel, and since I'm old and with a family now, there are no "game weekends" anymore, where some game was worked on for days on end! I remember one Christmas, my brother and I beating several Konami NES games, like Contra and such, without cheat codes, and thinking it was just great! Good memories of days gone by, that it seems, will never come again. :(

Which brings me back to the begining, soon my boy will be old enough to really enjoy games, so I will have to shell out for them anyway, and remember days in HS when games like "Missle command" and "Defender" looked so cool, and are now laughable. I can still remember playing "Space invaders" in a night club! :o
Man, was that really 20+ years ago?
Where does the time go?

Getting old sucks. :cry:

Beta1
10-01-2002, 11:45:23
OK my search for an older game is complete. I found Oni for 10quid in EB. Very good fun and worth every penny. Lara Croft with kung-fu fighting, Double Dragon with guns, whatever. Might write it up later

Funkodrom
10-01-2002, 11:46:25
Write it up and submit it as an article.

Resource Consumer
10-01-2002, 12:28:22
We still have CGB's Mule article to publish (and Shining's RTS strategy)

Funkodrom
10-01-2002, 12:29:07
Yeah, I talked to Shiny about that, it's not finished yet. We should publish Vincent's article though.

Vincent Fandango
10-01-2002, 13:04:24
Yes, do it!

Beta1
10-01-2002, 15:04:30
Not until Nav puts up my redhammer one.
:p

Funkodrom
10-01-2002, 15:25:48
What a slacker.

Funkodrom
10-01-2002, 15:26:12
Nav not Beta. ;)

Beta1
10-01-2002, 16:50:36
Would still be a fair comment - I've hardly done anyting this week.

Darkstar
12-01-2002, 12:29:06
I play LOTS of older games.
And I STILL find those fun games, even in the new ones.

I saw Alice on sale several months ago at Best Buy for $20. Back in December, I saw it in Jewel only case for $4.99 on their jewel stuff. You should be able to get it for next to nothing, IF you can find it.

I'll DEFINATELY buy S!SG and MoO3. Period. At premium. But they, and maybe Sims Vacation (as it's price isn't going to drop much from day one for a long time, I think), are about the only games I know of coming out that I would do that for. If something catches my eye, or I hear good things about it from people I trust, maybe...

It was STAR RAIDERS! STAR RAIDERS! STAR RAIDERS! Remember it now? Great game. And a direct rip off of the basic 'Star Trek' game. It's innovation: First Person view, rather then the control panel display.

MULE. Fantastic game. I don't think as MANY people would think so now, but it is DEFINATELY a classic.