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Funkodrom
02-12-2002, 10:45:49
My PES2 form seems to have deserted me. I can't tackle. I can't get pass, can't dribble and can't get the ball forward.

Lost to K_G yesterday 2-1 in a game I deserved to lose by more with only a late penalty for me (and red card for K_G) helping me atall. And I only managed a draw and a loss against another friend on Saturday. Lost the first game 5-3 (awesome game) with Portugal against England having been 3-0 and then 4-1 down in the first half. Then I immediately went one down in the rematch and although I dominated the entire game and came out with 15 shots to 2 I only just got a penalty to equalise in the last few minutes.

I think it's psychological.

Debaser
02-12-2002, 11:07:11
Nah, you're just shit.

Funkodrom
02-12-2002, 11:54:00
Ah fuck, and even you beat me twice.

:cry:

My only consolation was that I was the only person Shakey couldn't beat in our tournament the other week.

Sean
02-12-2002, 12:50:54
Keep the ball. It’ll make you feel better. As Depoirtivo I put together fantastic possession football but rarely get an end product because I only have one forward. Top stuff.

Venom
02-12-2002, 13:03:58
I think the "you suck" answer is the best.

maroule
02-12-2002, 13:37:58
try FIFA 2003 if you want to play football, and not another mind numbling arcade game loosely based on 'soccer'.

Resource Consumer
02-12-2002, 13:42:11
I think you should be able to get special foot controllers - sort of like an electronic football on a piece of string to allow the real experience...

maroule
02-12-2002, 13:47:15
but then funko would be probably even crappier

Sean
02-12-2002, 14:01:39
Originally posted by maroule
try FIFA 2003 if you want to play football, and not another mind numbling arcade game loosely based on 'soccer'.
:eek: :lol: :clueless:.

Funkodrom
02-12-2002, 14:23:33
That must be a joke!

FIFA 2003 is a big improvement on previous FIFA titles but still nowhere near as realistic a football game as Pro Evo Soccer.

maroule
02-12-2002, 14:31:17
I'm no expert on PES2 but the added fixture 'freestyle control' on FIFA03 is the most refined gameplay element in a footy sim for a looooong time, and for that alone it gets my vote

I agree that the versions before did not stand comparison, but the leap in F03 is really spectacular. Have you guys tried it, on 'simulation' setting?

Funkodrom
02-12-2002, 14:40:47
I'm still not sure the freestyle controller can match up to the 3 run speeds and dribbling options in PES2. Plus you can use the right stick in PES2 for manual passing now as well which I have yet to really experiment with.

Then again I've only had a quick blast on FIFA in a shop. But... every review I've read also agrees that even though FIFA takes a big step forwards it's still behind PES2.

maroule
02-12-2002, 14:45:56
right stick to control passes manually is also on xbox, but you look convinced so I'll give PES2 another try

Sean
02-12-2002, 14:48:27
The main difference, no matter about anything else, is this: PES2 feels more like football.

Funkodrom
02-12-2002, 15:11:29
Yeah, that's it exactly.

Sean
06-12-2002, 16:22:14
Play the pole formation. What you do is put all your defenders on one point, all your midfielders on another point, and ditto for your attackers.

I cannot believe I forgot this tip. I actually drew 0-0 against someone playing this formation, when I should have won the round robin.

maroule, I played FIFA 2003 again last night. Could you give some tips on the Freestyle control? Also, playing it with a Dual Shock is much easier than keyboard (duh).

King_Ghidra
13-12-2002, 09:52:58
I'm not sure i understand this tactic, don't you just get killed on the wings, have no options for passing, etc.?

BTW, Funko, it is psychological. You're still as good as anyone else.

To paraphrase barry davies from last night's liverpool commnetary (talking about el hadj diouf) To play well you need confidence, but if you're not playing well, how do you get confidence?

Sean
13-12-2002, 09:56:53
Damn frustrating when you get in the box, though. I should point out that I wasn’t playing it, they were.

Funkodrom
13-12-2002, 10:06:48
As good isn't good enough. :D

Nav
13-12-2002, 10:40:46
I almost beat you last weekend. If only for that bloody goal post and bar :)

Funkodrom
13-12-2002, 10:43:12
Yet in the end Mighty South Korea managed to hold out against the vastly inferior Italians.

Nav
13-12-2002, 10:46:32
I guess the fact I've only played 3 games, gave you false confidence going into future matches.. ;)

Funkodrom
13-12-2002, 10:54:09
I wasn't really trying. ;)

maroule
13-12-2002, 11:31:10
Originally posted by Sean
maroule, I played FIFA 2003 again last night. Could you give some tips on the Freestyle control? Also, playing it with a Dual Shock is much easier than keyboard (duh).


I guess you have the PC version, I have the xbox one, so on my controller it's fairly easy to use (analogic left stick)

it gives you the ability to nudge the ball a bit forward
i use it mainly on two occasions, to break through (you run faster without the ball, but beware of pushing it too close of the keeper, he'll snap it away, so do your push before entering the box)
or to get fouls (when I feel I'm about to get tackled)

apparently some players also have special moves with it
I'm nowhere near an expert and would be happy with any tips too

Sean
13-12-2002, 11:36:39
Waitaminute. Is this the thing where your player does, like, a quick dash, or shields the ball? That is shift in the PC version and start with a dual shock on PC. If so, then I am told you use it before a free kick (attacking kind) to choose where you want to hit the ball. Since I was told that I haven’t given away many free kicks, so I can’t say for sure.

FIFA 2003 is pretty fun. PES2 is frustrating in a good way, because mistakes are usually yours. In FIFA, it sometimes seems that players make bizarre mistakes for no reason. (One example was David Seaman watching the ball roll past his feet, although that may be added realism.)

maroule
13-12-2002, 11:46:43
:D Seaman is definitly for realism

I'm not sure it's the shift, but when you run, press it : if your player nudges the ball a bit in front of him (disconnecting with it for two steps), that's it. Tehre are other uses I'm just discovering, and players do have very distinct abilities (which might explain your feeling)