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PosterBoy
18-11-2002, 14:07:42
http://edromanguitars.com/resources/images/gwjf03.jpg

PosterBoy
18-11-2002, 14:09:09
http://edromanguitars.com/resources/images/jfrogds1.jpg

Nills Lagerbaak
18-11-2002, 14:19:25
Oh, the second please!!!!!

But if he wants to be serious the "Jackson soloist" is a beautiful if expensive guitar

Funkodrom
18-11-2002, 14:37:14
http://www.guitarist.co.uk/gear/gear_page.asp?ID=1601
http://www.guitarist.co.uk/gear/gear_page.asp?ID=853
:beer:

Not that I can afford anything at the moment.

protein
18-11-2002, 17:29:21
How about an SG?

Debaser
18-11-2002, 17:43:03
All the coolest people play SG's.

Lazarus and the Gimp
18-11-2002, 18:23:02
Nah. Coolest geetar is the Fender Jaguar.

How about a Rickenbacker? Not enough of those in rawk.

Debaser
18-11-2002, 18:32:32
Nah, coolest guitar is a Fender Mustang.

I actually said all the coolest people played SG's, like me for example.

Lazarus and the Gimp
18-11-2002, 19:54:21
But on a subconscious level it looks like an African Water Buffalo...

Funkodrom
18-11-2002, 20:28:46
I tried a couple of SGs when I got my current guitar. Too lightweight, didn't feel like there was any guitar there.

paiktis22
18-11-2002, 21:42:05
I think the best is to get a totally crap cheap guitar and then save money to buy a very good and expensive one.

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 09:20:30
I have a totally crap cheap guitar which I got about 8 years ago.

I got a pretty decent guitar a couple of years ago.

I'd like to get a really nice guitar now or a slightly better than pretty decent one.

PosterBoy
19-11-2002, 11:21:29
I hate the SG, It's so ugly.
I really like the Musicman Axis.

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 11:45:03
They do look nice, couldn't afford one though. :(

protein
19-11-2002, 12:02:37
Gretch?

Debaser
19-11-2002, 12:27:12
Get a Charvel Surfcaster or just a standard Telecaster (and get me one while you're at it).

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 12:41:16
I was thinking something like this:

http://www.gibson.com/products/gibson/xfactor/images/firebird7bluea.jpg

Debaser
19-11-2002, 12:57:51
Originally posted by Funkodrom
I was thinking something like this:
http://www.gibson.com/products/gibson/xfactor/images/firebird7bluea.jpg

Mike, NO!!!

Those guitars just scream METAL OBSESSED TWAT! - Especially in blue! And they're massive. And really heavy. And it's essentially the gimmicky twatish version of the guitar you already have. It would sound exactly the same, maybe slightly worse.

Get something nice and versatile like a Fender. Just think how nice Carpet Burns would sound played on a Tele or Mustang. They have amazing clean tones, and a wide range of other sounds too. If you must get a foolish METAL guitar, then get something like an Ibanez or a Jackson, with proper pickups and a sexy slim neck. Think how ROCK Nikhil's guitar sounds, and he can't even tune it!

protein
19-11-2002, 13:33:14
Similar to the advice I gave Nills about his effects pedal.

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 13:43:47
Hmmm. I just think they look interesting. The colour was random. They don't scream metal obsessed twat like a Jackson does.

Anyway it's the kind of shape I was talking about rather than that specific guitar. I kind of want something that's not one of the more common guitar shapes, but not a spikey metal guitar shape either.

I think the Telecasters look really boring.

I like a guitar that weighs a bit. That's the main reason I didn't like the SG. Looks nice and everything but there's nothing to it.

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 14:09:49
Guitar buying is just too personal...

Debaser
19-11-2002, 14:13:30
True, but personal or not, a Firebird is still is still almost identical to the guitar you have now in all but shape.

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 14:19:29
It's the shape I was talking about.

As for sounding virtually identical... well what I want it for is playing the same kind of stuff and having 2 guitars for gigging.

protein
19-11-2002, 14:27:23
Greedy bastard.

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 14:28:27
String breaking bastard. :(

Plus guitars are cool. You can't have too many.

Nills Lagerbaak
19-11-2002, 14:28:44
Originally posted by Funkodrom
It's the shape I was talking about.

As for sounding virtually identical... well what I want it for is playing the same kind of stuff and having 2 guitars for gigging.

This makes no sense to me. What a waste of money? Is there really any advantage except for having another when your strings break?

Hey have you ever thought that maybe all your string breaking was because you only ever had one wind on you heads?

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 14:40:34
How can buying a guitar be a waste of money? :confused:

The idea would be to get an even better guitar than I have at the moment, which is definitely worth it with the gigs and things we are starting to get now.

Anyway I can't afford to get anything at the moment so all this is totally theoretical. :(

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 14:41:59
It's only the same as protein wanting a new drum kit and Sam wanting a new bass.

Nills Lagerbaak
19-11-2002, 14:53:16
No, you just said that sounding virtually identical was not a problem, surely a new guitar means a better sound, or it is a waste of money.

protein
19-11-2002, 14:55:47
You have one good guitar but it doesn't have a whammy bar. Maybe your next one should have the whole package?

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 14:56:42
Ah right.

I meant a better guitar but still of the same type. ie. A good solid rock rhythm guitar.

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 14:58:09
I deliberately didn't get a whammy bar on the last one. Not really that bothered about getting one on a new guitar either really. That's more Nills' territory than mine.

protein
19-11-2002, 15:25:33
I want a drum kit that sounds better than the shit I've got.

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 15:28:14
Apart from Jeff.

protein
19-11-2002, 15:28:18
If you had a whammy bar there would be more scope for your/our sound - not necessarily for solos. You don't have to use it.

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 15:33:58
That is true. I'm not ruling it out.

I've been looking at the Rickenbacker website. Some nice guitars there. Out of my price range for the near future though. :(

Debaser
19-11-2002, 15:34:31
Originally posted by protein
I want a drum kit that sounds better than the shit I've got.

Get this kit (the pictured one). It looks pretty tasty to me.

http://www.ajpropercussion.com/dk_grtsc.html

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 15:42:26
That drummer from Three Litre said his drum shop owner loved him 'cause he hated selling little drum kits... not sure if that's the reason but I'm not surprised his drum salesman loved him! :eek:

protein
19-11-2002, 15:51:54
Were 3 litre the crap band on Sunday?

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 15:57:22
Yeah, the third one. They got better after you left.

Debaser
19-11-2002, 15:57:47
If you mean the last band then yes.

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 16:00:35
With the rack mounted drum kit that I said you would just bounce off if you tried to jump into it.

protein
19-11-2002, 16:14:39
Originally posted by Debaser
If you mean the last band then yes.
I should have said 'worst band'.

That kit was rediculous.

Funkodrom
19-11-2002, 16:23:17
I thought The Mediocre Don't Rock Collective were the worst band.

PosterBoy
19-11-2002, 16:23:46
*Ignoring posts about drums as this is the music forum*
My favourite 'Metal' guitar
http://theguitarfactory.com/washburn/ps2000.gif

Resource Consumer
20-11-2002, 11:15:21
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
This makes no sense to me. What a waste of money? Is there really any advantage except for having another when your strings break?

Hey have you ever thought that maybe all your string breaking was because you only ever had one wind on you heads?

There are a lot of reasons for having more than one guitar even if (unlike me) you are not a serial string breaker.

My main guitar is still the old Yamaha SG1000 (no pic available). However, a couple of years ago I went and bought a Guild X-180 in Canada. (see http://www.guildguitars.com/gear/gear.php?partno=3608000). This has a fundamentally different tone. So, when overdubbing guitar parts then it makes sense to stretch the sounds by using a different guitar rather than just using (for example) more or less distortion. Admittedly if you are in a 2 guitarist set up the returns to the additional guitar are somewhat diminished.

I am also getting into doing stuff with alternate tunings. Fine using one guitar for this for practice and in the studio but a real pain in the arse live (especially if you have a tin ear like me).

My advice would be that, if you are purely looking for string breaking insurance, buy a cheap copy for a spare. If you are really likely to be busting strings that often it's worth while buying a mate a drink to restring the #1 guitar while you go through the next song. It's what I used to do and it looks like you are real cool and know what you are doing.

Funkodrom
20-11-2002, 11:21:16
I have a cheap shit backup I can use for that. Actually... are you still planning to come to our gig? I'll buy you a pint of you fancy being my string man. ;)

It's not just string breaking insurance, it's the fundamental want for different guitars! Different tunings would be good as well. Be nice to be able to do some drop D songs.

Resource Consumer
20-11-2002, 11:23:49
Drop D is what I tend to use but I do some bottleneck with open G tunings.

There is a small Q-mark about 8 December, I may be away that weekend. In which case, I'll apologise now and promise to catch the next one. (I do like C-Burns very much)

Funkodrom
20-11-2002, 11:28:56
No worries. Be cool if you can come either way. :beer:

Nills Lagerbaak
20-11-2002, 11:59:03
Seriously! Check out some of the beauties on this site


http://www.jacksonguitars.com/gear/gear.php

Funkodrom
20-11-2002, 12:06:20
I checked it out yesterday. I quite like the Jazz-R and some of the Charvels.

Debaser
20-11-2002, 12:07:50
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
Seriously! Check out some of the beauties on this site


http://www.jacksonguitars.com/gear/gear.php

Ha Ha, what kind of penis would get the top left model......oh......sorry Nils...

protein
20-11-2002, 12:15:18
A guy at my work said that Nill's guitar looks like something ZZ Top would play.

Funkodrom
20-11-2002, 12:16:57
What?

It's pure Metallica.

protein
20-11-2002, 12:19:06
Same thing. 1980s America.

Nills Lagerbaak
20-11-2002, 12:20:43
In particular this baby....

http://www.jacksonguitars.com/gear/gear.php?partno=SLSMG_Soloist

Funkodrom
20-11-2002, 12:21:55
What? Metallica are the same as ZZ Top? You come out with some weird stuff somtimes.

Just checked the ZZ Top website and one of the guys is playing a guitar that looks a bit like mine. :D

Nills Lagerbaak
20-11-2002, 12:23:42
Originally posted by protein
Same thing. 1980s America.

This guy's tripping. Maybe they look the same with one eye, but surely you still have two ears? Right??

Funkodrom
20-11-2002, 12:23:45
Nills, I think this is my favourite from the jackson site:

http://www.jacksonguitars.com/gear/gear.php?partno=Model_A_Plus_K

Nills Lagerbaak
20-11-2002, 12:26:36
Oh yeah, that looks pretty sweet. I love the finish

protein
20-11-2002, 12:29:28
I just checked out the zz top site and one of them was playing Nill's guitar - only his was covered in fur!

protein
20-11-2002, 12:31:36
har har har

Nills Lagerbaak
20-11-2002, 12:44:57
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo! That is a furry gibson explorer. They wouldn't dare desicrate the mighty Jackson Kelly.

The only one's I wouldn't ming doing that are GWAR (who incedentily play exclusively jackson)

protein
20-11-2002, 12:46:37
A pointy novelty guitar is a pointy novelty guitar.

protein
20-11-2002, 12:47:29
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
This guy's tripping. Maybe they look the same with one eye, but surely you still have two ears? Right??
If I was looking with my ears I'd have to be tripping hard. :clueless:

Debaser
20-11-2002, 12:50:36
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
The only one's I wouldn't ming doing that are GWAR (who incedentily play exclusively jackson)

Are you sure?

They used to play exclusively BC Rich, and they're still appear in loads of BC Rich adverts.

Nills Lagerbaak
20-11-2002, 13:08:33
They must have switched loyalties.

"a pointy novelty guitar is a pointy novelty guitar"

I shall no longer be listening to you opinion ;)

Funkodrom
20-11-2002, 13:14:49
Hey, I was checking out Zakk Wylde's site, look at this:

FRED: Hey man, good question!!! Zakk has two different sets of ZAKK WYLDE GHS
Custom Strings out. One set is .60, .52, .36, .18, .13, .11 and the LO TUNE
set is .70, .52, .36, .18, .13, .11. If you are going to put them on your
guitar, it should be OK. Make sure to set your guitar up to take the added tension. The truss rod will need to be adjusted as well as the intonation will need to be set. A quick
note here, when Zakk uses the heavy .70 string, he tunes it down anywhere
from C# to low F#. By doing this it helps keep the tension off of the neck.

I thought my .46s were fat!

Nills Lagerbaak
20-11-2002, 13:17:29
Shite! .7! You could tether the Hindenburg with that one

Funkodrom
20-11-2002, 13:19:01
And then you'd get a gigantic ball of burning hydrogen and steel crashing into you during your solo. ROCK!

Resource Consumer
20-11-2002, 16:51:10
Wow that is heavy. I used to use a set pretty similar to the .6 set. In fact the top E only went to .13. Using this with a heavy guitar like the SG1000 is great for sustain.

Don't think the Guild would really like it much, though.

Funkodrom
20-11-2002, 16:52:55
I'm using .46 down to .09 The Ernie Ball heavy top slinky bottom set.

Resource Consumer
20-11-2002, 16:54:49
I would expect that. If you are going to go in for string bending etc then that makes sense. I use a lot of open strings ringing on so heavier/sustain is where it is at for me. (less so nowadays, though)

PosterBoy
20-11-2002, 16:59:01
I've just bought a set 1 heavier than that for playing slide/lap steel.

Resource Consumer
20-11-2002, 17:00:59
1 heavier than which?

protein
20-11-2002, 17:45:09
I just bought a set that is 1 louder.

Funkodrom
20-11-2002, 18:28:00
Originally posted by Resource Consumer
I would expect that. If you are going to go in for string bending etc then that makes sense. I use a lot of open strings ringing on so heavier/sustain is where it is at for me. (less so nowadays, though)

Yep. Do a bit of bending on low E string as well. Nice compromise of weight and heaviness and sustain there though.

Nills uses .42 to .09 I think so his sound is a bit thinner.

FunkyFingers
06-12-2002, 12:02:53
Have you bought a new one yet then?

Funkodrom
06-12-2002, 12:04:44
No. :(

Nills Lagerbaak
06-12-2002, 12:29:11
I actually wouldn't mind a bit heavier bottom end. The only problem is I then have to mess about with the workings of the floating bridge...

Funkodrom
06-12-2002, 12:30:28
You'd probably need a pro to set that up...

FunkyFingers
06-12-2002, 13:56:30
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
I actually wouldn't mind a bit heavier bottom end. The only problem is I then have to mess about with the workings of the floating bridge...

No, just eat 15 burgers a day and drink SunnyD by the pint. Repeat for a few weeks et voila, rather larger in the bottom end :p