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Nav
14-11-2002, 23:36:48
Continuing on from Venom's piece about Gamespy's latest dev diary, StarPilot sent word that they have published a preview. Check it out here: http://www.gamespy.com/previews/november02/moo3pc/index.shtml

Venom
14-11-2002, 23:55:11
YOU BASTARD!!!! Stole my topic!

MDA
15-11-2002, 05:24:52
Run Forest, Run! :lol:

Deacon
15-11-2002, 05:59:05
It sounds hopeful. If the AI is actually smart enough not to wreck your empire, then that would be nice.

Venom
15-11-2002, 12:51:28
I think it's going to be a good game. Nothing revolutionary though. Just more of the same.

Nav
15-11-2002, 13:34:36
There hasnt been a good space empire sim for a long time.

Venom
15-11-2002, 13:45:05
Unless you count that Star Trek game. Which I don't. But I do have it and it's no MOO.

Nav
15-11-2002, 16:09:17
I sold that, I got fed up with the memory leak that made it unplayable towards the end of the game.

MDA
15-11-2002, 16:57:39
Originally posted by Deacon
It sounds hopeful. If the AI is actually smart enough not to wreck your empire, then that would be nice.

As long as the enemy AI is its equal...:)

Prepare to be buried under a wave of Scarlet and Grey Ohio State jerseys on Saturday.

I had heard the Star Trek game was pretty good, but you say its buggy and not so good?
I almost bought it on Tuesday.

Venom
15-11-2002, 19:23:48
It's not bad. But there is a memory leak that causes some serious lagging.

If you think you'd enjoy gallavanting around the glaxay in fleets of Warbirds and Galaxy class starhips, you'll like it enough to make it worth buying.

Nav
16-11-2002, 13:30:16
What's its full name? I can't remember.

Venom
16-11-2002, 13:55:18
OG, just in case.

Birth of the Federation.

Nav
16-11-2002, 14:47:18
no not a 100-0 attempt, so many startrek games I couldnt recall the name, thanks.

Venom
16-11-2002, 17:25:36
There are indeed many Star Trek games. It's a pretty good game. Worth a try at bargin bin prices.

Darkstar
17-11-2002, 00:52:35
I remember it was pretty darn boring actually.

Could have been a very good game, but a couple of things held it back.

Lot of micromanagement, from what I remember... lots of boring details, same strategy paths... once you'd figured it out, it had zero fun replaying. But it's been a while.

Venom
17-11-2002, 03:50:39
Many micromanagement. Me have beer. Me drunk. Talk to ugly fat chick. Stop me.

Fire phaser.

Darkstar
19-11-2002, 03:42:53
:shoot:

Venom
19-11-2002, 04:30:47
Good shot.

Koshko
19-11-2002, 04:40:25
Originally posted by MDA
Prepare to be buried under a wave of Scarlet and Grey Ohio State jerseys on Saturday.

I'll be honest to you. For an undefeated team, OSU hasn't been that impressive lately. I think if they played Iowa, they'd lose.

Venom
19-11-2002, 13:04:10
They have been quite shitty. Illinois? Come on. Cinncinati? Jeez.

Nav
19-11-2002, 19:34:21
Downloaded and played MoO2 almost all weekend. Definately enjoyed it, although it is very dated now (and correct me if I'm wrong, but the graphics also seem crap even for 97). I doubt it will hold my interest very long..

However Im almost definately going to get MoO3 now when it's released on the 29th (cross-fingers)

Venom
19-11-2002, 19:56:13
Shit you too? I played it all weekend too. Crap graphics indeed. But yummy Stellar Converter.

Deacon
19-11-2002, 21:28:07
It's a neat gun. Sometimes in the late game when all that's left to do is take on the Antarans, I play around by sending some "shotgun" Doom stars loaded with 2 apiece. They warp in, shoot some of their ships, then warp out. Miniaturization eventually lets you load 3 and then 4 if you cut some special items out. :)

Nav
19-11-2002, 22:43:56
been reading up on some of the stuff in the game here: http://moo3.quicksilver.com/official/index.html .. very indepth!

Venom
20-11-2002, 12:59:13
I once spent the time to sit around and wait until as many planets as possible were colonized and then just went around destroying them all. It was great. There were only like 30 planets left in the entire galaxy.

MDA
20-11-2002, 18:48:33
Originally posted by Koshko
I'll be honest to you. For an undefeated team, OSU hasn't been that impressive lately. I think if they played Iowa, they'd lose.

Since we're being honest, I'll add that they've been unimpressive for quite some time. Cincinnati almost beat them, they barely beat Purdue and Illinois. Wisconsin was closer than it looked from the score. Lots of close games. Those are either "character" wins, or they've been lucky.

Michigan/OSU tickets are going for about 500 dollars on Ebay, depending on location.\

I always use death rays instead of Stellar converters. Once I have gauss weapons or graviton beams, the game is over on middle difficulty. I'd get stomped by human players, though.

I tend to rush to research lab, then autom. factory, then soil enrichment, then autolabs. If I get to autolabs and have a few systems colonized, the AI can't keep up.

Guy
21-11-2002, 20:49:30
Release date has now been pushed back to Dec 4 to "allow further testing of multiplayer following some fixes of late game crash bugs."

From the official site, for what it's worth.

MDA
21-11-2002, 21:28:50
Still a 2002 release, then.

Venom
22-11-2002, 00:28:09
Back another week eh. Those whores.

Darkstar
22-11-2002, 04:20:19
They said they wanted to fix a (somewhat) common MP late game crash. They actually care what their customers think, unlike other places, and we should be glad they aren't rushing it out like other places. Even though their publisher and beta testers and quality people say it would be fine. OWTTE.

Deacon
22-11-2002, 06:59:25
I really hope MOO3 succeeds, because I want fleets that just follow general orders like "capture planet" without having to set the AI for each ship to not destroy all the facilities. And I don't want to micromanage battles between fleets with more than 20 ships.

Shining1
22-11-2002, 08:27:28
You suck:p

But I also want it to succeed. At the very least, it would cap off a great year for the 'third incarnation' franchises:).

Darkstar
26-11-2002, 02:36:17
Well, if it sucks, there's always the next month. SimCity4 is due out in Jan/2003. They have already changed www.simcity.com to be SimCity 4... moved 3K to another address, etc. Should have the firm sales date in the next few weeks.

Humm... I don't know. If you don't see a graphical representation of the hit and miss of battle, of how the various weapons and what not work, then there isn't a point to having different weapon and whatnot techs. That would take out good bit of the fun, I think... I mean, W: 2 or W: 8... what's the difference? And that's generally what happens in games where you tell your fleet 'capture planet/minimize damage' or what not...

Deacon
26-11-2002, 11:56:40
I didn't really mean just as in *only*, but as in *can* follow general orders without some renegade ship screwing up the plan.

I'm lazy. SE4 attempts to allow laziness by giving me the option to fight in strategic mode using certain user-defined tactics, but I have to set the AIs for each ship and the fleet too. AFAIK, not every ship is guaranteed to follow fleet directives. Making it work takes too much effort.

Some ships will run and hide in strategic mode no matter what unless I install at least one anti-ship weapon, wasting valuable space. Instead of another PD gun in a point defense ship, I must either install a useless weapon or only use the ship in tactical mode. If I don't go along, my heavy attackers will get eaten up by missiles and fighters when the PD ships flee. And then the PD ships won't have any protection, so they get to die too.

I think MoO3 (if the official comments mean anything) is going in the right direction by letting users specify who's who, and what their relation is. This one capability would eliminate many of my MoO2 and SE4 headaches. In those games, I can't tell my ships how they'll fit into the plan, so that it's every ship for itself. The transports run away, the heavies waste turns chasing wimpy ships that the escorts can handle, and the escorts attack the planetary defenses as the transport that they're supposed to protect on the way in cowers in the corner.

Anyway, I think the techs and ship components will always be used to calculate who wins a battle, but I think tactical mode needs a FF button for the lazy folks. Turn the automation on and watch things blow up. :)

Deacon
26-11-2002, 12:04:32
I do like to manage ships in tactical mode every now and then, but usually it's when I can't trust the brain-dead automation, or when I want to toy with an AI ship before I finish it off.

Venom
26-11-2002, 12:46:42
SimCity 4 looks amazing. It will probably be boring but it looks pretty damn cool.

No longer Trippin
26-11-2002, 20:47:08
Simcity 3 won't fucking load on my system due to one single fucking scratch... I hate fucking CD's... now when I install games, I install a copy with a no CD executable to a removable drive. Will save me some headaches to say the least.

Sean
26-11-2002, 21:12:47
Unfortunately, AoM will not let you play via their online service with a no-CD crack.

No longer Trippin
26-11-2002, 21:19:01
I don't plan on buying that game anyhow. I can still mirror CD's to the drive if I have to and run any number of programs freely avaiable on the web which trick a game into thinking a cd copy is real, or allow you to copy a securom or safedisk cd. Nothing hardware is foolproof long as there is software.

Sean
26-11-2002, 21:29:18
True, but I am far too lazy to bother with, e.g., mounting a file as a CD.

Deacon
27-11-2002, 00:42:27
Chips & Bits is now selling MoO2 for $18.95. That's up from when I bought it for $10 three years ago.

Venom
27-11-2002, 03:15:31
19 bucks for MoO2? That's a fucking rip off right there. If anyone wants it I'll burn it and send it to them.

Deacon
27-11-2002, 07:12:43
I bet they're trying to get more because MoO is coming back onto the public's radar now.

Venom
27-11-2002, 12:52:48
Of course that's the reason, but no should pay for it.

Nav
27-11-2002, 13:39:01
I downloaded it off Kazaa the other week, purely on a trial basis of course.

Shining1
27-11-2002, 13:44:32
:D

You're going to send Kazaa $19 bucks if you're still playing it after a month has gone by?

Nav
27-11-2002, 13:57:49
Of course. But I expect MoO3 to come out well before my 30 day trail period has expired.

Venom
27-11-2002, 14:30:37
A successful download of Kazaa? That's a rare thing.

Shining1
27-11-2002, 14:55:54
It was probably all lesbian porn, too.

Nav
27-11-2002, 15:24:30
Not for me.

(I did make a much longer two para post but the net connection here went down, this response says the same thing..)

Shining1
27-11-2002, 15:30:53
Fair enough.

(Weirdo:))

Shining1
27-11-2002, 15:31:57
Actually one of the races in MoO2 was kinda porno, too:).

MDA
27-11-2002, 20:09:03
those sexy purple elerians?

Venom
27-11-2002, 20:15:38
Hey my last game was as them elerians.

Shining1
27-11-2002, 23:09:00
Practically all my games were as the elerians. They are the perfect side for the custom races:D.

Darkstar
01-12-2002, 09:00:21
:lol:
I had always wondered how many people used the Elerians as their race graphics when going custom. I think I'm seeing a trend in answers on this.

MoO2 is probably worth $15 to $20 these days... it isn't being made anymore, and some people are interested in it again.

Shining1
01-12-2002, 09:58:14
Hmmm, sexy bitches or lumps of silicon... what should I pick?

There's also a slight tactical advantage in picking the Elerians because they are mean fuckers in battle. If you custom as that race, you remove them from the action, which makes fighting that much easier.

Darkstar
01-12-2002, 10:29:46
:lol: That's the exact reason (keeping a race out of the game) that I would take Klackons or Sillies as my custom game. Slid between those three... Klackons, Sillies or Elerians. The Els were just eye candy to me. They never gave me any problems. Must be in the particular of our styles. ;)

MDA
01-12-2002, 23:48:58
Pushed to Dec 19th!!!

Deacon
02-12-2002, 04:50:36
Looks too close to Xmas for comfort.

Darkstar
02-12-2002, 08:18:30
Another 2 week delay? Eek! What are they, working to a NASA schedule? :D

Well, I'm not surprised they slid it back. Just surprised they are going by 2 week increments. The next slid will miss Chrismas, so I guess it will be a month slide, instead of 2 weeks?

Shining1
02-12-2002, 10:08:50
I'm shocked they even CAN work to a two week schedule. Testing a new patch would barely take that long, and you'd want longer...

Venom
02-12-2002, 13:10:43
Klackons or Elerians always.

Did anyone play as the Humans? We suck.

Darkstar
03-12-2002, 05:07:11
In MoO1, Humans were one of the strongest races there was. They were too easy to win with.

In MoO2, they weren't really anything to speak of, one way or the other, IIRC. But that was true of most of the races. They seemed to have lost a good bit of their 'identity' and play strategies, to me, in MoO2.

Venom
03-12-2002, 13:03:10
Just because no one wanted to fight them. Everyone hated the Klackons...I have so much in common with them.

MDA
03-12-2002, 13:16:17
you had to play all nicey-nicey as the humans until you had the key techs you needed to stomp the AI. It makes for a longer game.

Darkstar
04-12-2002, 00:48:43
MDA, which version are you talking, 1 or 2? In 1, you Capitalized them to death, and they love you for it. You can win 1 without ever firing a shot (well, maybe at those darn Anterians), and win EARLY (compared to other strategies/races) with the Humans. Galactic Supreme Commander, everytime, easy as pie.

In 2... darn, don't really remember. I guess I should fire up MoO2 and see... What I vaguely recall, there really wasn't any difference between most races, including the humans. Same thing required to win... same strategies. Elerians had that orbit a ship and the world is yours thing. Makes for quick games on average and under settings... Humm... I think I just preferred custom over the other races... no other real flavors...

MDA
04-12-2002, 01:25:58
The forum ate my first reply :mad:

You could defend yourself with best missile cruisers as humans and cave in to all but the most ridiculous demands from the AI, trading BC, research and techs as much as possible until you had decent weapons, then go and conquer your most annoying neighbor. Never won without a fight with somebody in Moo2, not on decent difficulty levels, so playing humans was mostly a late game victory. Much easier to have a senate win with humans and the correct foreign relations tech (comes opposite Alien Management Center, but I don't remember the name).

I always play with a custom race nowadays.

LadyRachel
04-12-2002, 04:56:44
*

MDA
04-12-2002, 14:27:17
Did you just burp? :hmm:

Nav
04-12-2002, 17:18:08
Originally posted by MDA
The forum ate my first reply :mad: Your web connection buddy. :mad: (pats the server to sooth it)

MDA
04-12-2002, 19:12:02
Actually, I called the university tech services help line and they confirmed things are totally screwed up on their end. Sorry for accusing Rachel and the server of eating my post. Well, I'm not really sorry, but I WAS wrong. :)

MoSe
10-12-2002, 11:57:59
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1522211#post1522211

great JT's post @polymoo! :D

MDA
10-12-2002, 14:29:49
That's some good stuff.

MDA
13-12-2002, 16:51:39
:coolgrin: I only wish it were true.
Edit: better picture

[Attachment deleted for bandwidth reasons]

Scabrous Birdseed
13-12-2002, 19:34:23
Take that picture out, fuck with all the guests!

Scabrous Birdseed
13-12-2002, 20:10:40
Actually, don't, replace it with something funny!

MDA
13-12-2002, 23:28:43
its replaced, but not that funny

Nav
14-12-2002, 17:53:59
MDA, YOU REALLY ARE A COMPLETE FUCKWIT.

Next time at least link to the post NOT the attachment. 0 bloody registrations and all those guests.. :rolleyes:

MDA
16-12-2002, 14:09:19
You don't want those kiddies registering.

MDA
16-12-2002, 14:10:14
Ah, the link is killed already. :o

Venom
16-12-2002, 14:54:51
Idiot. Can't you enrage people to the point of registration?

MDA
16-12-2002, 15:43:49
Hey, I can enrage them to the point of calling me names like idiot and fuckwit!

Vincent
16-12-2002, 15:47:01
Make no excuses. Support no ideology. Never explain. You're EVIL. Just do it.

Venom
16-12-2002, 17:15:35
He's only quasi-evil.

Nav
16-12-2002, 17:27:50
MDA, I did spend a while trying to work out why the server was being attacked, had to trawl the logs etc. I felt the fuckwit comment was justified. :D

MDA
16-12-2002, 18:44:05
Oh, fuckwit applies to me in general, not just in this case :)

The thread it was linked from is now up to its 40-something page, and the link was on page one.

Nav
16-12-2002, 22:47:01
I noticed that motherfucker had something like 40,000 hits.

Darkstar
17-12-2002, 04:03:50
40,000 hits? for a small blonde not wearing anything on her bum, and a big red shirt just high enough to show you she wasn't?

How desperate are they for pics? The net has plenty more for free.

MDA
02-01-2003, 20:51:37
The devs would have us believe that they've been working hard on this through the holidays - I don't doubt they've been working relatively hard, compared to what I've done over the holidays, but please :)

Taking a breather can actually speed things up in the long run anyhow.

Darkstar: Just high enough to show she wasn't blonde? :)

Venom
11-08-2003, 20:20:09
Did I say I think this game was going to be good? I was obviously saying that to trick you fools into playing it. I truly am evil.

Deacon
11-08-2003, 20:57:40
I wanted to believe too. :)

Nav
11-08-2003, 21:42:35
You said RtR was going to be crap didn't you. Which means you're trying to trick us into not playing it.

Venom
11-08-2003, 22:54:00
Usually my Crap Radar is deadly accurate. But maybe, just maybe, I AM trying to trick you.

Now send me the free game!

MDA
12-08-2003, 17:33:55
Originally posted by Nav
MDA, YOU REALLY ARE A COMPLETE FUCKWIT.


That is so quotable. Everyone should have this in their sig.

Darkstar
13-08-2003, 19:46:05
MDA did for a while. And he was proud to display his "CG Fuckwit of the year" award as well.

Venom
13-08-2003, 19:58:57
Is that a 100-0 attempt DS?

MDA
13-08-2003, 20:17:18
Maybe he actually missed the avatar change :confused:

It could happen.

Darkstar
13-08-2003, 22:03:12
Venom, nope. Just being my normal dense self.

MDA, I noticed the change of your avatar. But it was in the past set to title of "CG Fuckwit of the Year", wasn't it? And it was Beaker, from the Muppets, wasn't it?

Venom
14-08-2003, 00:44:25
That's quality denseness right there. maybe you can overtake Drekkus.

MDA
14-08-2003, 01:32:08
It was back in January? when the awards were handed out. Not for long, I'm surprised you remembered.

The Beaker avatar always returns eventually.