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Scabrous Birdseed
23-10-2002, 01:21:48
I'm expecting the last two CDs to arrive tomorrow, meaning the CD burning process should take place this weekend. LWP3 The Album (someone come up with a wittier title for this, please!) will consist of 43-45 tracks (I don't know how many will be on IW's CD) and total just under 150 minutes in time. There are a lot of tracks here, folks, so before I commit everyone to my crazy "everyone writes a 1000-word review of every track to be put in one massive 500-page article" schemes I thought I'd ask everyone what format, exactly, they want the reviews to be in.

Three options, feel free to suggest others:

1. Really short reviews, of a line each and strictly no more. (Two-three lines for whoever submitted it.) These would be compiled into, say, 3-6 articles each eating off a good-size portion of the tracks. Very flimsy stuff, but manageable.

2. Slightly longer reviews, of two to three lines each otherwise as above. Still somewhat below the LWP1 review standard.

3. Good-size reviews, of say 60-80 words each, to be submitted for one track every week for nearly a year. An option that requires dedication and punctuality (unless you decide to do it in chunks), but which would supply counterglow with enough articles to last, like, forever. Well, nearly.

Funkodrom
23-10-2002, 09:09:37
I voted option 1.

LWP3 CD names:

"Holy shit I have to review HOW MANY tracks?"

Debaser
23-10-2002, 11:16:01
I voted 2. You can't really say anything in one line can you? I think it would work if you ask for reviews to be done in ten track chunks, at perhaps one chunk a month.

Funkodrom
23-10-2002, 11:18:10
That's fair enough.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-10-2002, 11:36:12
That's the sensible but unexciting option. 45 2.5-line reviews is about 1200-1500 words, which is the size of a full-length essay-like game or album review.

One reasonable page is about 600 words or something along those lines, so if we have two tracks reviewed per page that'd leave us with twenty-odd pages, sensibly divided up into chunks of ten tracks per article as per above suggestion.

I still favour the Insane option, but then I like writing.

Debaser
23-10-2002, 11:45:22
How about we all review everything as we see fit, and you compile our work into a more structured final piece?

Scabrous Birdseed
23-10-2002, 11:54:29
I was thking of that too, but I think that would be too heavy- big blocks of text describing someone else's review, it'd get horribly confusing. Unless I was doing it in the Guy-Counteglow-Reading-List type way, in which case it'd stillbe weird and assymetric.

I could leave freer borders I suppose to allow people to write everything from a one-word review to a paragraph's worth. The problem with that would be that some tracks would get lots of stuff written about them while others would lose out, it goes against my egalitarian Swedish principles.

One final option would be for all participants to pick twelve or so tracks to review each, distributed in such a way as to make sure each track has three reviewers. That would cut down the amount of work, allow people to review tracks they especially want to review, as well as being reasonably egalitarian and flexible (some can review less, some can review more). It'll be a fucking nightmare to organise though.

Funkodrom
23-10-2002, 11:57:30
Well I think that's fair, if some tracks are boring they'll get less written about them. That's almost review commentary in itself.

Debaser
23-10-2002, 12:11:11
I agree. If Snappy just describes the general concensus, using two or three supporting quotes then that leaves everyone free to do what they want, including Snappy.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-10-2002, 12:16:15
*sigh*

I'll do it if you want, but it'll mean I personally have to review all the tracks no-one bothers with. And that I have to adopt some sort of dry, impersonal tone dripping with sarcasm so as to treat myself as yet another reviewer.

But yeah, that could work. Can we hear the opinions of the other eight participants as well?

Guy
23-10-2002, 12:18:32
I second Debaser's idea. I'm sure there will be tracks that I can't say enough about and others where I'll be struggling to come up with a full sentence. Snapcase can then edit the responses together as he sees fit to portray the general reactions for each track. We should all strive to be concise and provide lots of blurbs for Mr. Birdseed to work with in the final review.

Just my opinion.

Guy
23-10-2002, 12:20:13
X-post. And I don't think there will be any tracks about which I write nothing at all. I'll give you some sort of reaction to everything on the disks.

Debaser
23-10-2002, 12:20:46
Why do we need a framework to work within? If we review as we see fit, then you compile them as you see fit surely then everyone's happy?

One question; do we post our individual reviews on here, or do we submit them to you?

Scabrous Birdseed
23-10-2002, 12:23:50
Well, (a) Not me because it'll mean a helluva lot of work I wasn't expecting, but okay, and (b) not the people whose reviews I ignore because they're boring.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-10-2002, 12:25:37
And PM them or e-mail them to me (at jaup100 bat york dotch ac dip uk), otherwise the entire articling in pointless. Anything I chose not to include (IF we do it this way) you can post in the thread later.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-10-2002, 12:28:56
Oh, ad (c) all the people whose tracks are commented on by one person (Guy) who writes a one-word review.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-10-2002, 12:34:24
Actually, let me get this straight: What you're suggesting is that I write compiled reviews of the 'This track found favour with the majority of reviewers, Laz and the Gimp saying "blah blah blah" and Scabrous Birdseed predictably comparing it to "a blah blah blah". However, Debaser disagreed, saying "bleurgh, bleugh, bleugh".' variety? How on earth wil I makel that be varied and interesting over 40 fucking tracks?

Funkodrom
23-10-2002, 12:40:14
I don't like that idea. You should just use whatever we say about the tracks (including your own review), followed by the song contributor's comments.

I'll say something about every track as well but probably more about some than others.

Guy
23-10-2002, 12:51:46
Yeah, just pull together some representative/amusing quotes for each track followed by the contributor's comments. Anything more is going to be way too long.

Funkodrom
23-10-2002, 12:55:17
I think everyones comments need to be in there.

Funkodrom
23-10-2002, 12:55:42
Although Scabby could change the order if it made it better.

Debaser
23-10-2002, 12:55:49
Sounds good to me.

Funkodrom
23-10-2002, 12:56:10
I'll put some of the articles together if you want Scabby, we could take it in turns to do a few songs each in each article.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-10-2002, 14:37:02
Pulling together quotes how? Can someone please specify how, exactly, they want the page to look? The natural approach (with the word limits) is

Comment 1

Comment 2

Comment 3

etc.

Selector's conclusion

Is this the exact format you want for the freer reviews as well? Even if it looks like

Scabrous Birdseed: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Funkodrom: blah

Guy: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Laz: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

PH: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Debaser's Conclusion: Track name by Artist blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

And if this happens with every single track? Can't we at least give "average length" guidelines" or something? People will interpret vague instructions very differently unless we agree on what we're after.

Funkodrom
23-10-2002, 15:07:33
OK. Average length 2-3 lines. Write more if you need to, maximum length 100 words.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-10-2002, 15:09:53
Sounds reasonable to me. 100 words is about 6-10 lines depending on what font you use.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-10-2002, 15:10:45
Oh right. That reminds me. If you're ending your stuff by email, please please do it as attached word or text files. the Uni IMAP server is well dodgy.

Sean
23-10-2002, 15:14:59
So I don’t need to vote, then? I like the most recent idea.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-10-2002, 15:19:53
I think we're doing it by consensus now. :)

*End Is Forever*
23-10-2002, 16:30:47
Concensus? What sort of idiotic approach is that?

The Shaker
23-10-2002, 17:46:02
FUck knows, I vote we stop it now.

Funkodrom
23-10-2002, 17:55:40
I vote also that anyone who breaks 100 words is put up against the wall and shot with K_G's cannon.

The Shaker
23-10-2002, 18:09:19
You want me to load him up again?
Has debaser got his wadding ready?

Funkodrom
23-10-2002, 18:13:36
I vote also that anyone who breaks 100 words is put up against the wall and shot with K_G's cannon.

Funkodrom
23-10-2002, 18:14:40
Fucking server.

The Shaker
23-10-2002, 18:23:01
I vote also that anyone who breaks 100 words is put up against the wall and shot with K_G's cannon.

Funkodrom
23-10-2002, 18:34:28
You are very Funny.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-10-2002, 18:36:10
If anyone breaks 100 words I'll strive to remove the extra ones in a humorous way.

The Shaker
23-10-2002, 18:40:56
Use a giant Ron Atkinson shaped rubber.

Lazarus and the Gimp
23-10-2002, 19:01:26
I say we call it "Snapcase smells of biscuits"

PosterBoy
24-10-2002, 08:53:16
What about
"Funky's a little girl who wees herself twice nightly"

oh and I crap at reviewing so I'll go along with whatever is agreed.

Funkodrom
24-10-2002, 09:41:52
I wish my bed was full of girl piss.

Scabrous Birdseed
24-10-2002, 10:46:42
Perv.

I think the title might well be "Give Disc 2 Track 4 One-Word Reviews" or something.

PosterBoy
24-10-2002, 11:24:59
Is that going to be one of Funky's tracks then?

Scabrous Birdseed
24-10-2002, 11:26:40
No idea, I haven't got his stuff yet.

Debaser
24-10-2002, 16:26:06
For a title, how about

"Listen Without Prejudice? I'd Rather Listen Without Speakers, Thanks"

PosterBoy
24-10-2002, 21:14:59
or
Every sounds mono coz I just shot my load in my right ear

The Bursar
24-10-2002, 21:22:35
"Listen Without Pleasure"

Sean
24-10-2002, 21:37:02
Litsen Without Prejudice.

Lazarus and the Gimp
24-10-2002, 22:10:58
Make it a jewish-only release and call it "Listen without prepuce".

Scabrous Birdseed
24-10-2002, 22:16:27
I know at least one member of the LWP3 group without a prepuce. Do people without prepuces get sebaceous substance accumulating around the glans?

Funkodrom
25-10-2002, 08:35:08
I like Listen without pleasure.

Scabrous Birdseed
25-10-2002, 09:00:35
That can be the title of LWP2 then. Making this one "Listen without patience" or "Listen without pancakes" or something.

Funkodrom
25-10-2002, 09:16:53
Listen without popadoms.

Scabrous Birdseed
25-10-2002, 09:18:29
Listen without plastic surgery

Funkodrom
25-10-2002, 09:25:33
Glisten without pubes.

Scabrous Birdseed
25-10-2002, 09:27:41
I think I'll just go through the entire letter P in my dictionary.

"Listen without Pachelbel"
"Listen without Pacifism"
"Listen without Pakistan"
"Listen without Palladium"
"Listen without Panzer"
"Listen without Paranoia"

oh I'm bored. Fuck this.

Last one, considering the varied review lengths: "Listen without Parity"

Lazarus and the Gimp
25-10-2002, 16:40:33
Listen without pants.

Provost Harrison
26-10-2002, 13:12:28
I think mine are going to be quite succinct, but it depends on how the song 'moves me' ;) If it is pure crap, it will probably get a very succinct damning, if it is a work of genius, I would elaborate.

Provost Harrison
26-10-2002, 13:13:54
Listen without purgatives :lol:

The Bursar
26-10-2002, 18:11:07
Logistically Without Peer

Lazarus and the Gimp
27-10-2002, 14:52:48
"What's this shit?"

Scabrous Birdseed
27-10-2002, 15:03:03
I'm compiling it now. I might come up with something funny in the process.

*End Is Forever*
27-10-2002, 16:09:58
I like Laz's suggestion.

PosterBoy
28-10-2002, 12:40:28
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
I'm compiling it now. I might come up with something funny in the process.

I doubt that.

you'll be too busy listening to something completely shit

Scabrous Birdseed
28-10-2002, 12:44:45
The official title is "The Loadsa Writin' Project".

Scabrous Birdseed
28-10-2002, 13:21:44
Aiight, the first copy be done, hallelujah. Guy, you'll recieve this within the week.

Funkodrom
28-10-2002, 13:41:21
*fireworks*

Debaser
28-10-2002, 16:51:26
*starts pissing down with rain and everyone gets a cold*

Provost Harrison
28-10-2002, 17:43:13
Never heard of the concept of the printer Scabby?

Caligastia
28-10-2002, 18:58:25
I dont think he ever got past the concept stage.:D