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King_Ghidra
21-10-2002, 12:49:07
I wanted to read something while i sat in the bath last night so i grabbed a copy of 1984 off my shelf that i had picked up from the Oxfam bookshop recently (btw it was a penguin paperback from 1956, and only £1.90).

Anyway i realised that it was 10 years since i originally read it. I'm only 27 that scared the fuck out of me - 10 years!! :eek: :nervous:

Funkodrom
21-10-2002, 12:52:28
We know how long it was, it's all been recorded.

FunkyFingers
21-10-2002, 12:53:17
Scary - I read it for my GCSE English Lit course - had to do a "compare and contrast" project for 1984 and Brave New World. I was 15 or 16 then, so that's 11 or 12 years ago. Yikes.

It is an amazing book though, as is Brave New World. I think they should be compulsory reading for everybody in the "Democratic West".

King_Ghidra
21-10-2002, 13:10:14
yup, agreed on that.

it's funny because orignally 1984 was seen as the most prophetic, but with the collapse of the communist regimes, brave new world's genetic manipulation and drug and sex existence seems more like the modern world.

Although reading it yesterday i couldn't help thinking that what with the rise of cctv etc. the big brother observation aspect is as relevant as ever

Funkodrom
21-10-2002, 13:18:51
Hmmmm... I can't remember if I've read 1984 or not.

FunkyFingers
21-10-2002, 14:20:20
You would if you had - Newspeak, microphones in the hedge rows, the Thought Police, Room 101 and all that?

Qweeg
21-10-2002, 14:41:24
Funny you should mention it, I'm about to start a 'Scaryest Book Read' thread, and that's on my list. I reckon Huxleys world is closer to ours too, specially with all the stuff bout cloning (although nobodies talking about making multiset births on purpose, but it's still cloning)

I never realy understood why that guy went abit 'Shiite' in the end, why not get with the program- the drug soma didn't seem that bad, Huxley world was certainly more cheerfull then the eternal oppression for oppressions sake that is 1984, let alone the hairstyles and those stupid skinny ties.

Sean
21-10-2002, 14:43:17
Brave New World was far creepier, I thought. 1984 had a more obvious bad-man-oppression thing going on.

Funkodrom
21-10-2002, 14:46:38
Originally posted by FunkyFingers
You would if you had - Newspeak, microphones in the hedge rows, the Thought Police, Room 101 and all that?

Well I've definitely seen the film that's the thing.

FunkyFingers
21-10-2002, 15:03:24
I've actually not seen the film, blimey.
Anyone read Lord of the Flies while we're on teh subject of social commentary books and predictions of the future?

Sean
21-10-2002, 15:07:33
Yep.

Qweeg
21-10-2002, 15:10:00
No, but I saw that Simpsons episode where Bart plays the Judge, that was kinda the same...

Sean
21-10-2002, 15:12:28
Meow.

Funkodrom
21-10-2002, 15:23:57
Originally posted by FunkyFingers
I've actually not seen the film, blimey.
Anyone read Lord of the Flies while we're on teh subject of social commentary books and predictions of the future?

Yeah, brilliant book. I read it when I was at school but not for school. School ruined a lot of books for me. Lord of the Flies is very depressing though.

FunkyFingers
21-10-2002, 15:33:48
Extremely, but so is 1984.

King_Ghidra
22-10-2002, 08:22:47
'imagine a boot stamping on a human face - for ever'

i have it in my pocket now :)

FunkyFingers
22-10-2002, 08:41:12
Extremely depressing image that isn't it :bash:

King_Ghidra
22-10-2002, 08:44:54
'imagine a smiley, hitting another smiley on the head with a hammer - for ever'

The Bursar
23-10-2002, 20:56:52
That wouldn't happen. It'd crash after about 4 hours, tops.

LoD
24-10-2002, 22:46:54
Hmm... those titles bring back high school memories :)...
I agree with Sean. BNW is a lot more creepy for a contemporary reader than 1984 - at least for one who can critically analize the modern society.
As far as LotF goes, the description of the slow decay of human instincts in the psyches of the marooned kids is just astounding.
I've read 1984 for myself, and the other two for school. However, fortunately our English teacher was kind enough not to kill the fun out of them - of all the texts, she only did that to Hamlet :).

moomin
26-10-2002, 12:16:13
Originally posted by LoD
As far as LotF goes, the description of the slow decay of human instincts in the psyches of the marooned kids is just astounding.


Surely you mean instinct establishing itself over the thin veneer of decaying civilization?

monolith94
26-10-2002, 20:45:16
read all three multiple times… yum yum yum
I sure know how to pick em!

LoD
28-10-2002, 19:37:53
moomin: replace "instincts" with "civilization". There ya go :).

moomin
28-10-2002, 22:11:57
LoD: I can do that. Don't tell Roland, though. Such disrespect for his Freudan cultural heritage wouldn't go down well... ;)