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FunkyFingers
15-10-2002, 12:46:05
Saw the first 30mins of this "seminal" film on Sunday and thought it was pants. Anybody else seen it, got any comments?

Venom
15-10-2002, 13:53:56
Weird movie. Very weird.

Scabrous Birdseed
15-10-2002, 14:22:07
It's great. I love it.

FunkyFingers
15-10-2002, 14:28:50
It was wierd for sure, but I couldn't see what the fuss was all about. Maybe I'm desensitised to screen violence now, but there wasn't anything "shocking" about the film that I could tell, and it all seemed, well, a little bit naff.
Maybe Dated is the more correct description, and perhaps it did have a much bigger impact 20 years ago, films are certainly more violent on average now than they used to be?

Scabrous Birdseed
15-10-2002, 14:57:06
It's the style wot does it. As with the majority of films. And the ending is good.

FunkyFingers
15-10-2002, 16:00:09
Didn't watch long enough for the ending... Oh well.

Funkodrom
15-10-2002, 16:28:33
Yeah. I think you missed the point by not seeing the end.

It's very stylistic, looks a bit dated now but the message is still relevant I think. I really liked it.

Venom
15-10-2002, 16:52:23
I think the violence still holds because you've actually got the protagonists explaining it. In a way you live the violence. And become used to it as the film progresses. Then you go to "rehab".

FunkyFingers
16-10-2002, 08:34:24
Maybe I should try and watch the whole thing. Hmm.

Funkodrom
16-10-2002, 09:26:20
Maybe. It does take a while to get used to the style of the film because it's so strange.

Venom
16-10-2002, 12:13:17
Plus there's like nudity in it.

Qweeg
16-10-2002, 12:55:53
I caught this film about half way through, so I only saw from the bit where he's sent to prison. That guard was so uptight in the 1970's British Sergeant kinda way it made me laugh, "YouShutYouNoiseHoleYouFilthyLittleToeRag!!!" he screeches, :lol:

I missed the rape scene (kindof intentionally, I hate rape-scenes). The storyline is interesting, even if the haircuts were distressing, and now I think I can recognize what's Kubric about a Kubric film- it's the big square clean spaces, and the flat colourfullness, the lighting, I can't quite put my finger on it but I definately saw a resemblance between the images of a Clockworck Orange, Full Metal Jacket (although less so becouse of the battlefield settings etc) and Eyes Wide Shut.

Good ending, all abit weird, kind of embarresing it should have been banned in the UK, and still relevant I agree. I'd bet any money that American, British and Russian (and probably Fwench) mad government scientists probably actually did develop that kind of behavioural modification technique.

Venom
16-10-2002, 13:38:39
Now you've ruined the rest of the movie for Funky.

FunkyFingers
16-10-2002, 13:44:35
It wasn't banned by the UK government, but by Kubrick himself. It's only since he karked it that we've been able to screen it again as he's not around to moan.

My wife hated the rape scenes at the beginning, one of the reasons we switched off and watched that rubbish Panorama "investigation" in to Seroxat.

Venom
16-10-2002, 14:39:08
I'M SINGING IN THE RAIN!!!!

Deacon
16-10-2002, 20:45:37
I saw Clockwork Orange on VHS a few years ago and the two scenes that still stick out in my mind are "singin' in the rain" and "lick my shoe."

jsorense
17-10-2002, 19:45:25
'What's it going to be then, eh?' There was me, that is Alex, and my three droogs, that is Pete, Georgie, and Dim, Dim being really dim, and we sat in the Korova Milkbar making up our rassoodocks what to do with the evening, a flip dark chill winter bastard though dry.
:bounce:

Darkstar
17-10-2002, 22:41:17
That sounds like a perfect Qweeg.

Funkodrom
18-10-2002, 09:26:50
Originally posted by FunkyFingers
It wasn't banned by the UK government, but by Kubrick himself. It's only since he karked it that we've been able to screen it again as he's not around to moan.

My wife hated the rape scenes at the beginning, one of the reasons we switched off and watched that rubbish Panorama "investigation" in to Seroxat.

It was banned by the UK government, then by Kubrick. I think.

FunkyFingers
18-10-2002, 10:34:00
I read somewhere that it did actually get an uncut release in the UK as an 18, but it was only out in cinemas for a short while before Kubrick pulled it - the story was described thus in the pre-film show they do on Channel 4 on their Sunday night movies.

Qweeg
18-10-2002, 13:57:45
Originally posted by Darkstar
That sounds like a perfect Qweeg.

How dare you sir, I demand satisfaction.

Venom
18-10-2002, 14:04:54
I doubt Darkstar will give you a hand job. You're on your own, as usual.

FunkyFingers
18-10-2002, 14:09:27
I hear Venom gives a good man-hand-job though

Venom
18-10-2002, 14:13:36
And yet you still complained about paying last night.

FunkyFingers
18-10-2002, 14:29:41
It's those rough callouses, they chafed more than expected

Venom
18-10-2002, 14:43:16
You said you wanted to be treated like a man for once in your life.

Qweeg
18-10-2002, 16:05:07
Originally posted by Venom
I doubt Darkstar will give you a hand job. You're on your own, as usual.

The book I am reading right now has corrupted my lingo.... mydearfellow, I can't help it and didn't mean to sound like I wanted a hand job. If I wanted a hand job from a man I'd simply give myself one, no big deal.

good day to you s-... get bent sucker.

Venom
21-10-2002, 11:56:06
You proper olde english nut nibbler.

FunkyFingers
21-10-2002, 12:53:54
Wierdos

Venom
21-10-2002, 13:00:23
Fag.

FunkyFingers
21-10-2002, 14:20:47
Cigar

Venom
21-10-2002, 15:09:16
bicycle pump.

jsorense
21-10-2002, 20:40:11
"A terrible grahzny vonny world, really, O my brothers. And so farewell from your little droog. And to all others in this story a profound shooms of lipmusic brrrrrr. And they can kiss my sharries. But you, O my brothers, remember sometimes thy little Alex that was. Amen. And all that cal."

King_Ghidra
22-10-2002, 08:25:27
my parents bought me the book. i should read it.

jsorense
22-10-2002, 14:18:39
K_G,
I hope your copy has the glossary in the back.
:)

Qweeg
23-10-2002, 11:49:45
I think modern slang is much better, dawg...

RedFred
08-11-2002, 20:24:05
I liked the movie. It seemed to be one of those rare cases where the movie was better than the book. Wendy/walter Carlos did a fine job on the soundtrack.

Venom
09-11-2002, 02:27:34
Didn't the guy who wrote the book hate the movie?

RedFred
09-11-2002, 07:23:58
That almost always happens.