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Drekkus
16-09-2002, 08:16:05
Diary of a french soldier in WWI - great storytelling by a socialist soldier, spitting venom on his superiours, and telling how trench warfare really happened.

Ann Ryand - Fountainhead - no idea

Harry Mullisch - Siegfried - novell on the son of Hitler

Any more ideas?

moomin
16-09-2002, 11:15:00
May I suggest Iron Dream by Norman Spinrad. A fake SF novel supposedly written by ol' Adolf himself. Absolutely hilarious, in an revolting sense.

King_Ghidra
26-09-2002, 10:25:00
I'm of to Greece for a week on the 8th of october, so i need some holiday reading too.

I'm currently wading through The Second World War by John Keegan, so I might have some of that left. If not i'm tempted to continue my mission through Moby Dick.

Drekkus
26-09-2002, 14:14:32
World War I by Keegan was a very good read. Learned a lot about the eastern front.

FunkyFingers
26-09-2002, 14:15:43
What does Kevin Keegan know about WW1? Admittedly, his football management style was "go at 'em lads", but hey, that's different...

Sean
26-09-2002, 14:18:03
Was?

King_Ghidra
26-09-2002, 14:39:12
Originally posted by Drekkus
World War I by Keegan was a very good read. Learned a lot about the eastern front.

well the sequel is good too :D

last year i read Stalingrad by Anthony Beevor - that is probably the best factual book i have ever read.

Sean
27-09-2002, 23:45:45
KG: even though I’m only approaching part-way through (I took time off to read Three Men in a Boat and The Adventures of Tom Sawyer) I would recommend the Glass Bead Game. Once I’ve finished that, I could well be starting on Moby Dick (I own it, buy after the Glass Bead Game I might wants something a little lighter).

Lazarus and the Gimp
28-09-2002, 08:24:00
The problem with Ayn Rand is that 90% of those who've read that particular author's works are either pricks to start with or become pricks as a result of reading it.

If anyone's after something readable, try some Philip Kerr or Carl Hiaasen. Will make recommendations if any cares sufficiently.

moomin
28-09-2002, 08:50:47
Carl Hiassen? Try Double Whammy. The ultimate in yank redneck and TV evangelist bashing. Eurotwats everywhere will feel good, enlightened and superior having read it.

At least if they know absolutely nothing about CAP.

Lazarus and the Gimp
28-09-2002, 09:19:20
Incidentally, Carl Hiaasen is American and sells very heavily in America.

Noisy
28-09-2002, 09:39:32
We know all we want to about the Common Agricultural Policy ... and it's all bad.

moomin
28-09-2002, 10:05:15
Laz, I don't say Carl Hiassen isn't good. He is. In fact, he's great. I still laugh out loud everytime I zip past a TV fishing show, to the great displeasure of the missus, who thinks denigating any "cultural expression" is insensitive. But I'm just saying I'm not overly surprised you recommend him over, say, P. J. O'Rourke.

RedFred
29-09-2002, 07:12:55
I agree with Laz. Give anything by Ayn Rand a miss. She is more a propagandist than a writer. Which is a good thing because her writing skills are wretched.

Drekkus seems to want to read some nonfiction. So try John McPhee. He can make any subject interesting.

Lazarus and the Gimp
29-09-2002, 20:43:44
Originally posted by moomin
Laz, I don't say Carl Hiassen isn't good. He is. In fact, he's great. I still laugh out loud everytime I zip past a TV fishing show, to the great displeasure of the missus, who thinks denigating any "cultural expression" is insensitive. But I'm just saying I'm not overly surprised you recommend him over, say, P. J. O'Rourke.

Would you be surprised if I then went on to recommend PJ O'Rourke?

O'Rourke is a good humourist. Unfortunately he's got a tendency to believe himself to be an expert on nearly everything, and this means that a lot of his rants (while still funny) have great gaping holes in them that a truck could be driven through. "All the trouble in the world" is packed with such. It's still worth reading, though.

We're going to have to have a talk about your jerking knees one day....

FunkyFingers
21-10-2002, 12:55:51
Did you read anything on your holiday then?

TCO
23-07-2007, 16:20:44
Ayn Rand is a propogandist. However, I would not give her a miss. She espouses a personal belief (not a "movement"). Remember that she was a smart woman in the 20s, 30s who had to find her own way. Remember what she came from and experienced directly in communist Russia. And what we have not experienced ourselves. Even if you dislike her libertarian philosophy and atheism, you can still find things that are interesting (be true to yourself, your art; the tendancy to belittle vice build) that are interesting. And despite the length of the book and the asides for philosophic soliloqies, the story itself is very interesting (will Roark be broken, will he get commissions) as well as having some wonderful peices of wording and imagery of buildings and nature. I'm the most rightist person on this board, but I can still find many, MANY things to appreciate both from story and from issues within The Grapes of Wrath.

Evan von Christoph
23-07-2007, 17:43:39
I thought people went on holiday for a holiday which means no reading but lots of sun, drink and hot boys

King_Ghidra
24-07-2007, 08:24:43
more of a busman's holiday then hmm?

maroule
24-07-2007, 08:41:14
Originally posted by Drekkus
Diary of a french soldier in WWI - great storytelling by a socialist soldier, spitting venom on his superiours, and telling how trench warfare really happened.



since you seem to like the period, I would recommend two very powerful (and fairly grim) French books

french equivalent to all quiet on western front
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wooden-Crosses-Roland-Dorgeles/dp/1598186728/ref=sr_1_1/026-1890939-3038823?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1185266359&sr=1-1


more heroic, true story of commandoes in Bulgaria
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Captain-Conan-Joseph-Bruccoli-Great/dp/1570037132/ref=sr_1_4/026-1890939-3038823?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1185266286&sr=1-4

maroule
24-07-2007, 08:42:53
just realised Drek's first post was written in 2002...