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paiktis
15-01-2017, 20:51:59
salonica is an amazing city.

what to marvel first?

the rotunda which is the twin brother of the roman pantheon.

Just that monument building has more history than one can count, and it's not even the anciest there.

build to either be a shrine to zeus or a crematory for a roman emperor.
anyway, that emperor died and then christianity started taking hold so they said, freck it let's turn it into a christian temple and it was a splendid byzantine temple that was first an ancient greek temple!!!!!

then the ottoman frecks destroyed some of it and turned it into a mosque but now it is again turned into a christian temple so all is good.

although the archeological agency wants to turn it to a museum

anyway.

amazing.


then there's tons more

the byzanint museum. thessaloiniki was MAJOR during the byzantine empire.

you walk that museum you see the transformation of the roman empire from the dodecatheon to christianity right in front of your eyes.

mosaics, statues, marbles, golden leaves, decorations, diamonds, everything

and loooooooooooooots of icons.


plus the city is filled with protochristan churches from 4th century onward.

the frecking turks destroyed some of the beautiful mosaics so freck them, REALLY



then... eye watering the ewish holocaust museum. the nazis killed the jews there that had mileniums of history, chased by erdinant and some spanish queen, forgo the name. the city was called the second jerusalem.


and vibrant amazing bars, huge shopping streets, bands, people having a good time, polite.


and I didn't even manage to visit the macedonian archeological museum so alexander will have to wait.


and the seventh tower, an infamous prison, build by the byzantines aeons ago, only stopped being a prison in 1989 or so.


many songs written about that one.


thessaloniki ROCKS

Koshko
27-01-2017, 01:41:06
Visiting ancient Europe would be neat if it wasn't for that fact that I'd need to be on a plane for like 6 hours to get there.

RedFred
27-01-2017, 04:22:42
Visiting ancient Europe would be neat if I had a time machine.

The Mad Monk
27-01-2017, 14:00:12
Visiting ancient Europe would be neat, except for all the dysentery.

jsorense
27-01-2017, 14:31:29
And all of the smelly, unwashed masses. Oh, wait . . . . :gasmaske_rolleyes:

Oerdin
28-01-2017, 06:25:19
I thought Salonica was rather dirty and run down post industrial in a rust belt sort of way. I was only there over night and this was back in 2000 but the locals were nice enough, the bars were decent without being too expensive, though the place was over run with hookers from Albania to Romania. Not even in Vegas have I had so many aggressive hookers grab my cock and proposition me. Not really a tourist oriented city but not terrible.

paiktis
30-01-2017, 09:13:25
I honestly have no idea where you frequent when you visit those cities.
Salonica has seen an amazing expansion/betterment in the last 17 years it's true but still you'd have to go to some really shady parts of town to see what you see.

You said some similar things about Athens and I live here and I've never seen them in my life.

Tourism in Salonica is through the roof, partly because it is easily accecible from neighboring countries too (although there was a bazilion of french but they seem to be everywhere)

paiktis
30-01-2017, 09:17:13
Visiting ancient Europe would be neat if it wasn't for that fact that I'd need to be on a plane for like 6 hours to get there.

Likewise for New York
There are some very affordable fares to and from. I've been searching.
I also search for hotels but since I'm cheapskate I found a cheap one and on googlemaps everything adjacent was in chinese (including the hotel)
Not a bad thing?
I just don't want to rent in a ghetto. But have no idea where those are

paiktis
30-01-2017, 09:18:09
In Greece "ghetto" means someone might give you the stare.
In New York I heard it's different

Koshko
30-01-2017, 20:30:44
Likewise for New York
There are some very affordable fares to and from. I've been searching.
I also search for hotels but since I'm cheapskate I found a cheap one and on googlemaps everything adjacent was in chinese (including the hotel)
Not a bad thing?
I just don't want to rent in a ghetto. But have no idea where those are

I've never been to New York, but Chicago's version of Chinatown is alright. Actual authentic food, and it's nice to walk down the streets and window shop.

Koshko
30-01-2017, 20:31:47
There was one place that was selling a mockup of an 18th century Chinese armor for like $2600. Looked cool.

Oerdin
31-01-2017, 16:40:20
I honestly have no idea where you frequent when you visit those cities.
Salonica has seen an amazing expansion/betterment in the last 17 years it's true but still you'd have to go to some really shady parts of town to see what you see.

You said some similar things about Athens and I live here and I've never seen them in my life.

Tourism in Salonica is through the roof, partly because it is easily accecible from neighboring countries too (although there was a bazilion of french but they seem to be everywhere)

We were at a Greek military base picking up military equipment which got shipped there. Yeah, it was the old part of town and I am sure 17 years later things have improved.

paiktis
02-02-2017, 17:02:09
nt

paiktis
02-02-2017, 17:02:43
I've never been to New York, but Chicago's version of Chinatown is alright. Actual authentic food, and it's nice to walk down the streets and window shop.

Ah good to know.
If i can gather a small group maybe we can rent a flat (I hear manhattan is good for that), if it's jsut me and the SO then CHINA TOWN!!! :D
(maybe)

zmama
02-02-2017, 17:29:22
New York's Chinatown is great. Yum yum yum steamed buns ;)

jsorense
03-02-2017, 02:53:56
So is San Francisco's. :love:

RedFred
03-02-2017, 03:13:15
Everyone is welcome to their own opinions, but I like San Francisco's better than New York's. Not so run down.

Oerdin
06-02-2017, 20:35:39
New York's Chinatown is great. Yum yum yum steamed buns ;)

It is taking over Little Italy.

Oerdin
06-02-2017, 20:36:17
Everyone is welcome to their own opinions, but I like San Francisco's better than New York's. Not so run down.

Better food too.

Koshko
06-02-2017, 20:50:11
It is taking over Little Italy.

And Little Tibet.

jsorense
07-02-2017, 07:35:38
And the South China Sea.

Oerdin
18-02-2017, 06:09:27
No, there are not enough Italians in New York any more.

The Mad Monk
19-02-2017, 02:14:29
I blame Curtis Sliwa.

jsorense
19-02-2017, 02:30:17
BOSSMAAAAAAN!!!

The Mad Monk
19-02-2017, 05:03:51
WHA? WHERE!?!?

Oerdin
24-02-2017, 02:31:05
I blame boss man.

paiktis
20-03-2017, 16:34:57
I wouldn't want to go to iran.

what kind of leftie am I if I condemn dictatorships the world over and then go to iran


plus it's a theocracy so it's doubling down on stupid

(not talking about the people. the people are great all over the world)

paiktis
20-03-2017, 16:39:55
during a festivity the crowd clapped out (it's when you clap loudly someone in order for him/her to stop talking) a representative of iran with a veil.

all the symbols of oppression there. the people wouldn't have it.
good for the people.

i guess the world is divided in two.

freedom and oppression

the iranian music was great though.


that's the good thing. cultural exchanges are great. and there are big ties between greece and iran because alexander beat xerxes. and then the iranians started calling their kids alexander (also attilla but that's a different story)


culture yes. this being hijacked by politics, no

paiktis
20-03-2017, 16:40:54
also iran isn't weak. it's huge with 80 million people.
hm

paiktis
20-03-2017, 16:42:08
I'll always be a (slightly racist) european to the core I guess.

paiktis
20-03-2017, 16:45:39
Also what's this with "Alternative lifestyles" not having a problem with iran and claiming they are lefties and feminists and shit.

you are fake dear if you do that I don't care if you had family problems

paiktis
20-03-2017, 16:47:10
freedom my friend. that's the best. and no hypocricy

paiktis
20-03-2017, 16:51:14
hypocricy is a great word.

you know it as hypocricy and most people do but if we discect it

it means hypo = under
cricy = judgemend

a lesser judgement.

a weak/false judgement

paiktis
20-03-2017, 16:51:48
it means you are too dumb to have a correct judgement

Oerdin
20-03-2017, 23:04:31
Who are you talking to?