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C.G.B. Spender
19-06-2014, 21:16:25
:violin:

Funko
20-06-2014, 08:26:36
:beer:

Group of death.

mr_B
20-06-2014, 08:27:44
what's the average reaction in England?

Funko
20-06-2014, 08:37:37
Mild disappointment.

I don't think before the tournament many people really thought we were going to get out of the group, URGay having such a bad first game, and us playing quite well against Italy gave us a bit of hope.

Finn Willi (5)
20-06-2014, 09:09:20
Nice match though. Both teams were good.

Funko
20-06-2014, 09:29:51
Uruguay really got it right tactically. Pressed our defenders hard, high up the pitch, correctly realising that they aren't quite technically good enough to cope with that. Put extra men in midfield, used Cavani to disrupt Gerrard.

But still in both games it was incredibly close, they should have had their captain sent off for a second yellow card, Rooney hit the bar in both games we came close and we have a very new, young side in transition.

2010 was much more depressing even though we stayed in for longer, because we were so dull and uninspiring and playing much lower quality teams.

Fistandantilus
20-06-2014, 09:34:51
...2010 was much more depressing even though we stayed in for longer...


You can still win the fucking cup! God this negativity, so british.
2T68AXsUAEI

Depressing.

Funko
20-06-2014, 09:38:19
FORZA ITALIA!

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/9c/cf/4d/9ccf4d4d6be067d8e1edda12639c08bf.jpg

Venom
20-06-2014, 11:38:33
You needed Sterling and Sturridge to be as aggressive as they were against Italy and they weren't. Part of that is because of the urgay tactics as you mentioned, but overall they weren't as good as last game. It's amazing how much direct, aggressive dribbling can unlock even an good, organized defense.

But hey, it was miles better than the usual knock it about the back with 5 yard passes for 5 minutes and then launch a ball into a box packed with 6 defenders and 2 attackers that happens too often.

Funko
20-06-2014, 18:12:29
Thanks a lot Italy.

Venom
20-06-2014, 18:28:26
Costa Rica was aggressive, but Italy was poor. I think they tanked it on purpose.

Koshko
20-06-2014, 21:21:36
http://i.imgur.com/r9BVZh7.jpg

mr_B
21-06-2014, 07:49:23
3.674.209 inhabitants, unbelievable

Fistandantilus
21-06-2014, 08:52:37
Thanks a lot Italy.

:(

Fistandantilus
23-06-2014, 00:01:45
Seriously USA? Aren't you supposed to lose at 'soccer'?

Venom
23-06-2014, 01:42:00
That was a loss. Between giving it up at the end, and the Ghana - Germany result, we're in trouble now.

Koshko
23-06-2014, 04:56:00
If Germany and US just quietly agree to not do shit in the game, they both advance.

Koshko
23-06-2014, 04:56:21
http://i.imgur.com/GVGgS2a.gif

mr_B
23-06-2014, 07:40:28
Would be lekker if Portugal would be kicked out

Funko
23-06-2014, 08:43:45
:bounce:

Funko
23-06-2014, 08:44:17
Can Germany go out? That'd be best.

Venom
23-06-2014, 11:16:21
If we were to beat Germany by...2 or more goals, and Ghana were to blitz Portugal by 3 or 4, then possibly.

Basically Germany has to lose and Ghana has to win, and somewhere in that equation a 5 goal goal difference needs to be made up.

mr_B
23-06-2014, 14:10:16
so, let's do it

MDA
23-06-2014, 15:22:14
so, let's do it

That sounds familiar.

C.G.B. Spender
23-06-2014, 17:52:52
Yeah, 1974 allover again

paiktis
29-06-2014, 17:43:43
the italy -england game was one of the very few I saw and one i enjoyed very much.

that said, I hope the flight back home was uneventful for both of you :D

MDA
29-06-2014, 18:07:48
Netherlands, 87th minute heart stopper. :beer:

Edit: "The Netherlands had somethin' in dem, an dey squeezed it out". :lol:

Venom
29-06-2014, 23:02:59
Hup Holland!

Funko
30-06-2014, 08:18:32
I guess Pieter died during that match.

Venom
30-06-2014, 11:35:22
Double bonus!

mr_B
30-06-2014, 16:23:24
:lol: fu venompje

Football is a game played by 22 players and in the end the Dutch win.
Bet you wore the orange with pride yesterday

mr_B
30-06-2014, 16:25:33
avtually after the 1-0 from mechico i was quite convinced we would win the game

Venom
30-06-2014, 17:07:20
I did.

It was also hilarious because we have van Nistelrooy in the ESPN studio after/between games and Ruud and some mexican dude were trying to argue ever so politely about the penalty call.

mr_B
30-06-2014, 18:17:21
5 days and the Dutch will show the Angliesj how to beat Costa Rica

MDA
30-06-2014, 19:42:59
It's also called soccer instead of football when you play without falling to the ground in agony every time someone gets into your personal space.

mr_B
30-06-2014, 22:51:14
jaja

MDA
01-07-2014, 22:33:07
fffffffff congratulations Belgium

Venom
01-07-2014, 22:34:49
Welp, that's that. We were poor and deserved to lose. But dang that sucks.

Venom
01-07-2014, 22:37:13
Hold on a minute playa! 2-1!

Fistandantilus
01-07-2014, 22:59:31
Yedlin is a hell of a player, why was he sitting on the bench the first three games? Wondo was awful tho. Great match anyway, kudos to the us for believing till the end

Venom
02-07-2014, 02:17:05
Yeah, he was a live wire. I'm not sure Klinnsman had his tactics and lineup right this game in general.

I didn't expect to win, but I also didn't expect to get dominated the entire game, and I think our tactics had a lot to do with that. Plus our midfield couldn't pass or trap, which makes keeping possession difficult.

Funko
02-07-2014, 09:15:29
Pfffff. I thought you were excellent. It's a team of very limited ability up against a very good Belgian side. Belgium might not have been slamming goals in but they've been very, solid extremely hard to score against and winning, just like they did in qualifying.

The organisation and exceptional work rate of the players and the Secretary of Defence (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/07/tim-howard-wikipedia-united-states-secretary-of-defense) kept you in the game, and you had chances to take it to penalties at the end.

Getting out of that group and being in the game against Belgium on 120 mins is better than anyone in the world expected before the tournament. You guys should be proud of the team.

The pundits on our TV were gushing about the US team, not for the quality of play, but the determination, teamwork, never say die attitude. Extra time was probably the most entertaining 30 mins of the tournament. :beer:

Funko
02-07-2014, 09:20:43
Classic cup football.

Venom
02-07-2014, 11:40:52
I think all of those things are true, and I think the guys on the fields worked their asses off. I'm just not sure Klinnsman helped them much at all.

Finn Willi (5)
02-07-2014, 12:13:03
Why, should he? Wouldn't that be against the rules?

Venom
02-07-2014, 12:15:48
It's only cheating if you get caught.

Finn Willi (5)
02-07-2014, 12:26:03
True.

Funko
02-07-2014, 12:41:23
You would have brought him on to take a penalty!

I don't think he's just a motivator, but he must have at least had a lot to do with the intensity of the performance (thinking back to Germany 2006 as well). And what he did was working, and very nearly worked.

As you said Venom, your choices are limited when your midfielders are of moderate ability.

Though I did think Michael Bradley was excellent.

Venom
02-07-2014, 12:52:30
On Bradley I cannot agree. His work rate was excellent, but he was a turnover machine. His passing was terrifically inaccurate as was his control. As said, we're limited in that area, but that made his play only hurt the worse. We have no one better than him. But he needed to be our best player. And with no Donovan, Bradley needed to be the driving force going forward. You could see it, he'd drop deep, everyone would defer and give him the ball, and he'd give it away. Yedlin (and Fabian Johnson) and even Beasely were far more effective down the flanks, and I don't think anyone would have guessed that before the tournament.

Jermaine Jones was our best field player, I think.

mr_B
02-07-2014, 14:33:45
beaten by Colon
the shame the shame

Funko
02-07-2014, 14:39:28
Yeah, Fabian Johnson and Yedlin were both excellent.

Venom
02-07-2014, 15:48:31
I'll say this, I'm excited about the future though. I think we can expect the same in 2018, but I think in 2022, assuming FIFA hasn't sold the trophy to space aliens, we can realistically have expectations to make the quarter or semi-finals.

If you count 1994 at the birth of modern soccer in the US, this year's team is middle/end of the second generation of our players (guys like Harkes, Wynalda, Reyna being the first). The kids coming up now, still 14, 15, or 16, will be 3rd generation since soccer became a "thing" in the US. I think that group will have greatly improved over what we've seen so far and maybe be ready to do big things by 2022.

mr_B
02-07-2014, 15:52:18
you know it's called football hah?

Funko
02-07-2014, 15:52:31
that's Qatar though which is going to be a joke.

Venom
02-07-2014, 16:38:08
I'm still hoping it goes to someone else.

Fistandantilus
02-07-2014, 16:43:09
I don't see that happening with Blatter in charge and he still has huge support from asian and african confederations.

Koshko
02-07-2014, 20:13:10
I'm still hoping it goes to someone else.

The US was #2 in the voting for that year.

Funko
03-07-2014, 07:15:45
England was the best bid for 2018 according to the FIFA assessments, but I'm sure there was no bribery from Russia.

Funko
03-07-2014, 13:24:37
Criticism of Jurgen Klinsmann After USMNT Loss to Belgium Largely Unfair

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2118058-criticism-of-jurgen-klinsmann-after-usmnt-loss-to-belgium-largely-unfair

Fistandantilus
03-07-2014, 15:47:40
I was expecting a tweet by Venom in that piece

Funko
03-07-2014, 15:54:33
:lol:

Venom
03-07-2014, 15:56:17
I need to tweet more! I'm still new to it, but internet fame has never been closer thanks to my new tweeter thinger.

I did make a Bradley joke that the official US national team twitter account didn't rise to, sadly. They posted a picture of the team having a last lunch in Brazil to which I tweeted:

@ussoccer and Bradley gave his lunch away to the waiter. Joking aside, great run by the #USMNT Hard working, dedicated from beginning to end

Funko
03-07-2014, 15:59:27
And this is his one about Belgium

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2116914-what-went-wrong-for-jurgen-klinsmann-and-usmnt-vs-belgium

American English phraseology about soccer just sounds wrong.

Venom
03-07-2014, 16:03:29
A lot of it sounds wrong to me as well. I think it's people that haven't played/aren't familiar with the game. Still happens on sports center all the time. Even if they say the right words, the way they say it is all wrong.

when Bob Ley first started reporting on soccer, his phrases would drive me nuts. He's better now, but still a tard.

Venom
03-07-2014, 16:06:26
And as for tactics, I'll say this last thing. I think his biggest flaw was that he couldn't ADAPT his tactics during the game and change the flow of the game. Perhaps that's due to personnel, I don't know. But he doesn't seem to like/want to change mid-game. When Belgium pushed high up the field to disrupt possession by the US back 4 he didn't do anything to try and adapt to that.

Funko
03-07-2014, 16:07:30
Having to use an early sub 'cause of injury does always limit your tactical options later on. When he needed to change it when you were behind, he did, and it was effective.

Venom
03-07-2014, 16:10:44
YOU LIE! He got lucky bringing on Green! BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

Funko
03-07-2014, 16:16:35
The more he practises, the luckier he gets. ;)

C.G.B. Spender
03-07-2014, 19:32:26
Funny thing is: I understand Klinsmann pretty well when he's speaking english. It's very hard to listen to him when he tries to speak german.

Funko
03-07-2014, 20:16:35
Klinsmann speaks better English than any American. - FACT!

C.G.B. Spender
05-07-2014, 11:10:57
even when he speaks German

Venom
05-07-2014, 23:08:58
Hup Holland hup!

Cryuff shirt wins again!

mr_B
06-07-2014, 08:59:22
:BEER:

mr_B
06-07-2014, 08:59:42
nearly died yesterday

mr_B
06-07-2014, 09:13:44
and again a brilliantly brilliant move from van Gaal

Finn Willi (5)
06-07-2014, 18:14:12
Holland is nice and good.

mr_B
06-07-2014, 19:47:30
we will see you guys next sunday

Finn Willi (5)
06-07-2014, 21:02:08
Yeah, I'm second on the right, behind the yellow pillows, the one with fur!

(You see, in fact I am the furry kind, but don't tell anyone!)

MDA
06-07-2014, 21:16:33
I want to see the World Cup played in heat that's life threatening to sit still in. :gasmaske:

RedFred
09-07-2014, 06:41:27
The usual slackers were in the lunchroom at work watching the latest game instead of working. Last time I walked in during a match one of them weakly said, "Go Costa Rica" or maybe it was "Go Guatemala", but I know he would be hard pressed to find either place on the map. Another slacker had a Sweden jersey on. Sorry buddy, I do not think that will work out so well this year.

This time there was nothing. No chatter, no encouragement for either team, just a pile of slackers looking dumbstruck. Then I checked the score - Germany 5, Brazil 0 at that point.

I guess the pressure is on when you are the host team in a soccer mad country.

C.G.B. Spender
09-07-2014, 06:53:51
That, and when you play against the inventors of Blitzkrieg

Fistandantilus
09-07-2014, 09:32:19
Germans :rolleyes:

I just met a Dutch neighbour in the supermarket. He told me that they play against Argentine tomorrow. I said: "What a coincidence, so do we on Sunday".

MOBIUS
09-07-2014, 11:24:44
Wow... :eek:

I mean Neymar and Silva were out, but thought the match would still be pretty Klose - I could never have imagined Brazil getting Mullered like that!

Germany were in total Kroos control during that crazy first half - but then even at 5-0 I thought, Schurrle there can't be any more goals!?

Like Lahms to the slaughter.:D

mr_B
09-07-2014, 11:36:41
Sit in the corner and be very very silence for two days M÷bius.
That post was not puny at all

Finn Willi (5)
09-07-2014, 13:05:29
It was so terrible, I enjoyed it!

mr_B
09-07-2014, 14:06:44
Aber aber

C.G.B. Spender
09-07-2014, 14:49:00
Deutsch vs Dutch, that will be
Lahm vs Blind

Funko
09-07-2014, 16:58:53
Used to be Cocu vs Kuntz

http://www.11v11.com/matches/netherlands-v-germany-24-april-1996-246484/

Venom
09-07-2014, 17:06:54
Wow... :eek:

I mean Neymar and Silva were out, but thought the match would still be pretty Klose - I could never have imagined Brazil getting Mullered like that!

Germany were in total Kroos control during that crazy first half - but then even at 5-0 I thought, Schurrle there can't be any more goals!?

Like Lahms to the slaughter.:D

You'll Neuer see anything like that again.

Schweinstager motherfuckers!

MoSe
09-07-2014, 18:04:30
5 days and the Dutch will show the Angliesj how to beat Costa Rica
deserved a bump

Fistandantilus
09-07-2014, 18:11:52
Used to be Cocu vs Kuntz

http://www.11v11.com/matches/netherlands-v-germany-24-april-1996-246484/

So there is a stadium in Rotterdam, I hope it's underwater

C.G.B. Spender
09-07-2014, 20:22:59
Did you know Schweinsteiger meain Pigmounter?

MDA
09-07-2014, 21:12:33
Germans :rolleyes:

I just met a Dutch neighbour in the supermarket. He told me that they play against Argentine tomorrow. I said: "What a coincidence, so do we on Sunday".

:lol:

Koshko
10-07-2014, 02:37:01
I want to see the World Cup played in heat that's life threatening to sit still in. :gasmaske:

So Brazil when it's humid ...

C.G.B. Spender
10-07-2014, 06:23:39
:lol:
Nothing to lol here

Funko
10-07-2014, 10:18:12
Fuck you Netherlands and Argentina, that was boring as hell and I stayed awake until midnight. You bastards.

C.G.B. Spender
10-07-2014, 10:52:54
Especially when you can do it within a few minutes

Funko
10-07-2014, 11:06:18
Exactly. They could both do with some German efficiency.

Finn Willi (5)
10-07-2014, 11:17:20
Especially Argentinia. They could.

Funko
10-07-2014, 14:08:51
Words associated with all the teams

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28247716

Funko
10-07-2014, 14:16:32
Italy - slow - vulnerable - pessimism

MoSe
10-07-2014, 15:33:12
lol, nice sequence here

Japan possession disappointing frustrated
Portugal frustration ego disappointing
Russia drab error mediocre
South Korea woeful failure embarrassing
Spain defensive poor humiliation

Venom
10-07-2014, 16:10:26
Fuck you Netherlands and Argentina, that was boring as hell and I stayed awake until midnight. You bastards.

That was such an awful game I didn't even mind when The Netherlands lost.

paiktis
10-07-2014, 16:17:00
I love these games because I sleep like a bird

paiktis
10-07-2014, 16:18:21
*=sleep like a little bird = sleep easily and effortesly

Usually around the first half of the extra time

MoSe
10-07-2014, 16:41:34
Don't cry for me, Braziliana

Koshko
10-07-2014, 20:28:56
I love these games because I sleep like a bird

Better than sleeping like a baby.


Sleeping like a baby = Crapping yourself and waking up screaming

mr_B
12-07-2014, 16:27:32
That was such an awful game I didn't even mind when The Netherlands lost.

same here

mr_B
13-07-2014, 16:27:41
the 3-0 was not that bad
first time in my life i saw the poodle final

C.G.B. Spender
13-07-2014, 19:06:27
May you live until you see a dutch team win the world cup!
It all depends on progress in medicine ...

C.G.B. Spender
14-07-2014, 06:27:50
and: OlÚ.
Now let's sink this thread and go on with the usual crap for the next four years

mr_B
14-07-2014, 09:52:32
football won
GRATULIERE

C.G.B. Spender
14-07-2014, 14:17:40
bedankt