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Oerdin
31-07-2013, 19:43:39
In the US he would have been charged with wreckless driving and public endangerment and not only would have have gone to jail they very well might have confiscated his car as well (though it was likely his daddy's car and not his).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-23524736

Instead, in the UK he got what amounts to a slap on the wrist with a small fine and told not to drive for a few years. You just know that arrogant prick is going to ignore the driving ban and drive any way.

Lurker
31-07-2013, 20:24:15
Crazy brits get confused between kph and mph.

mr_B
31-07-2013, 20:37:56
why bother?

MDA
31-07-2013, 21:32:28
wreckless driving is good, no harm, no foul

zmama
31-07-2013, 21:39:37
:lol:

Lurker
31-07-2013, 21:50:21
I was soooo.... close on that one.

Oerdin
01-08-2013, 05:27:54
"I'm still going to drive, catch me if you can!"

Throw him in jail, confiscate his car, and listen to him whine and cry. That's the difference between the American system and the British system. "I lost my $100,000 Audi! :cry:"

mr_B
01-08-2013, 06:23:07
The americain system is too perfect man

Oerdin
01-08-2013, 07:28:32
If it was perfect then they'd catch everyone who did it. Sadly, it does not. The British system is horribly broken though because it doesn't even try to punish these criminals in proportion to what they have done and thus they're released to further put the general public at risk. That's wrong.

mr_B
01-08-2013, 09:10:46
criminals :lol:
you are so funny man

Funko
01-08-2013, 10:35:46
He didn't actually hurt anyone though? Driving whilst disqualified you can go to jail for.


And what happens if caught speeding over 100mph in the States? Oh a slap on the wrist and some points on your licence.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/03/04/aa.speeding.ticket/

:lol:

So it's actually less harsh than here.

I guess the US system is horribly broken though because it doesn't even try to punish these criminals in proportion to what they have done and thus they're released to further put the general public at risk. That's wrong.

Funko
01-08-2013, 10:38:14
There's nothing in the story to say he was committing any motoring offences other than speeding. He'd have been charged with other offences if he had committed them.

zmama
01-08-2013, 14:02:47
methinks Oerdin protests too much.

:lol:

Oerdin
01-08-2013, 17:10:33
He didn't actually hurt anyone though? Driving whilst disqualified you can go to jail for.


And what happens if caught speeding over 100mph in the States? Oh a slap on the wrist and some points on your licence.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/03/04/aa.speeding.ticket/

:lol:

So it's actually less harsh than here.

I guess the US system is horribly broken though because it doesn't even try to punish these criminals in proportion to what they have done and thus they're released to further put the general public at risk. That's wrong.

The standard around here for reckless driving is up to 90 days imprisonment.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc23103.htm

MDA
01-08-2013, 17:16:54
In California, you can grow unlimited amounts of marijuana for "personal use", even if it means you'd have to be smoking a couple of pounds a day. You won't even get a slap on the wrist if you've got your card.

Oerdin
01-08-2013, 18:40:56
My cousin has one of those cards and you're allowed up to 25 plants at a time per person with a card. I have no idea how anyone could even smoke 25 plants in a year but supposedly many people harvest every 3 months or so and end up legally having 100 plants per year.

Lurker
01-08-2013, 18:44:01
Citing the maximum penalty under California law for reckless driving is kind of pointless unless you compare it to the relevant britstatutes and also have data for actual sentences imposed. Absent injury to someone in an accident, serious property damage or a really crappy driving record, I doubt many people actually spend time in jail for reckless driving. They might get suspended sentences or something like that in some cases, but jail time? I dunno, though.

MDA
01-08-2013, 19:00:38
Apparently the worst that will happen if you have a too-huge amount of dope planted is they'll come haul it away. It says so on reality TV!

Anyway, sounds like I'm picking on you but that was not on purpose. I'm an unintentional bastard.

zmama
01-08-2013, 19:51:51
YAY!

Oerdin
01-08-2013, 19:57:41
Citing the maximum penalty under California law for reckless driving is kind of pointless unless you compare it to the relevant britstatutes and also have data for actual sentences imposed. Absent injury to someone in an accident, serious property damage or a really crappy driving record, I doubt many people actually spend time in jail for reckless driving. They might get suspended sentences or something like that in some cases, but jail time? I dunno, though.

You're likely right but the cop did say it was the fastest they'd ever seen in the county so you'd think they'd make an example out of him for being the worst of the worst in the category.

mr_B
01-08-2013, 19:57:47
and again a nice Oerdom thread
thank you man

mr_B
01-08-2013, 19:59:08
they have to punish the Germans too for making a car that could drive that fast

mr_B
01-08-2013, 19:59:40
and by the Germans I mean all the Germans, Karsten included

paiktis
01-08-2013, 20:01:52
rich folk.
get communism and shoot them

MattHiggs
02-08-2013, 10:34:45
I believe it was a hire car.

Oerdin
02-08-2013, 18:06:25
and again a nice Oerdom thread
thank you man

Love you, Mr. G. The sarcasm is what makes it so enjoyable not to mention the absurd extrapolations. I mean who ever said anything about attempting to punish companies for making the car? :clueless:

Can we at least go ahead with our discussion without the stupid red herring arguments? Maybe confine yourself to what people actually said? Thanks.

zmama
02-08-2013, 19:28:42
Ah, Is this the right room for an argument?
A: I told you once.
M: No you haven't.
A: Yes I have.
M: When?
A: Just now.
M: No you didn't. :D

Lurker
02-08-2013, 19:29:07
Punishing Karsten is "stupid"? :shoot:

Funko
05-08-2013, 07:31:16
The standard around here for reckless driving is up to 90 days imprisonment.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc23103.htm

That'd be fine if he had been charged with reckless driving. We have equivalent offences. Travelling at that speed is dangerous, but probably at 5am the motorway was pretty empty, so it's probably just the speeding offence.

Funko
05-08-2013, 07:34:09
As the woman at the end said - it could have been an option to prosecute him for dangerous driving, but they decided not to do that. Probably because they can guarantee the conviction on speeding (possibly he admitted the speeding and the CPS decided it wasn't therefore worth pursuing a higher charge in court.).

zmama
05-08-2013, 12:47:40
Don't confuse the issue with fact! ;)

mr_B
05-08-2013, 12:48:13
-FACT!!

Funko
05-08-2013, 12:50:29
-ISSUE!

mr_B
05-08-2013, 13:39:29
:drekkus:
i am confused now

Funko
05-08-2013, 13:46:37
I confused the issue with fact.

mr_B
05-08-2013, 13:53:42
that will teach her

Funko
05-08-2013, 13:54:35
- ISSUE!

zmama
05-08-2013, 14:59:09
Gesundheit!

MDA
05-08-2013, 16:09:31
Gestalt!

zmama
05-08-2013, 16:25:53
Wow, getting all phil o sofical now!

Funko
05-08-2013, 16:28:30
It's alright, Oerdin will turn up later with some more -ISSUE!

zmama
05-08-2013, 16:38:33
:lol:

Oerdin
05-08-2013, 17:55:23
That'd be fine if he had been charged with reckless driving. We have equivalent offences. Travelling at that speed is dangerous, but probably at 5am the motorway was pretty empty, so it's probably just the speeding offence.

I believe in many US states if you're speed is higher than a certain amount you automatically get charged with reckless driving. Just so people get punished more harshly for putting the general public at risk due to high rates of speed. Maybe you guys should consider such a law?

MDA
05-08-2013, 19:59:01
used to be Montana or Wyoming?... was just a speeding ticket payable to the issuing officer - 15 dollars, no points, no matter the speed

not sure if that's still true, probably not

zmama
05-08-2013, 20:08:13
-ISSUE!

mr_B
05-08-2013, 22:56:27
judge Oerdom

Oerdin
06-08-2013, 03:08:00
Well, at least Mr G has stopped with the absurd extrapolations and now is just making his usual noises. That is progress of a sort.

mr_B
06-08-2013, 06:31:46
thank you judge
what do you mean with absurd extrapolations?
In my fine little country they cut of your big toe if you drive 2 mph too fast and we love it

Oerdin
06-08-2013, 07:06:05
Like claiming I would support fining car manufacturers for the misuse of their products.

mr_B
06-08-2013, 07:31:49
new topic
what about gun control in your country?

Funko
06-08-2013, 07:53:37
I believe in many US states if you're speed is higher than a certain amount you automatically get charged with reckless driving. Just so people get punished more harshly for putting the general public at risk due to high rates of speed. Maybe you guys should consider such a law?

If he's driving on an empty road, who is he putting at risk?

Funko
06-08-2013, 07:54:16
Discretion. :beer:

mr_B
06-08-2013, 12:32:21
it's Reckless I sa'y it's Reckless

zmama
06-08-2013, 12:51:34
"helpless, helpless, helpless"

Oh darn, this isn't word ass.