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Lazarus and the Gimp
25-05-2002, 19:04:29
Opinions? Who thinks he's a god, and who thinks he's a groaning old dipso?

"Alice" is sensational.

25-05-2002, 19:46:32
I think he is both, depending on the album.

Lazarus and the Gimp
25-05-2002, 22:10:23
What are you into? Lush "Blue Valentine" crooning, or "Bone Machine" hollering?

25-05-2002, 22:12:27
I've got him chalked up on the "Litsen to and decide on eventually" list. He is included in my forthcoming purchase, the supposedly brilliant compilation Balling The Jack.

Lazarus and the Gimp
25-05-2002, 22:18:11

25-05-2002, 22:20:17
Swordfishtrombones is my favourite of his that I own. This probably counts as a yes for hollering on points.

But that Sparklehorse collaboration means he deserves a-shootin’.

25-05-2002, 22:26:12
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp

Balling the Jack: The Birth of Nu-Blues (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005Y6RV/ref=sr_aps_music_1_1/202-9450160-4592639) is a compilation I've heard great thing about from people I respect. It's got the obvious suspects but quite a few less well-known names as well. When I get some money that'll be the next thing I buy.

Lazarus and the Gimp
26-05-2002, 07:43:46
Jesus. Lumping Waits, Cave and Galas together with Moby and the Cowboy Junkies? And calling in "Nu-Blues"? They need shooting.

Tom Waits owes next to nothing to Blues.

26-05-2002, 09:48:01
Everyone owes something to the blues.

Lazarus and the Gimp
26-05-2002, 10:37:55
That's like saying Homo Sapiens owes something to Neanderthal man. Waits draws on mutant vaudeville, owing a lot more to popular music of the 19th century. Blues drew on the same source, but was a later offshoot.

I'll grant you, there's the occasional bluesy feel in Waits' songs- but that's rare.

Nu-Blues? Between them, Waits, Cave, Galas and the Cowboy Junkies have aggregated over 100 years of recording history and on very different tangents. Lumping them together in some kind of fatuous "scene" is a joke.

26-05-2002, 10:58:57
I don't think it's quite meant that way- we're talking "the birth of..."/Influences on rather than the genre itself, which I expect is the sort of SSOD/JSBE stuff. But then I wouldn't know, I haven't got the CD yet.

27-05-2002, 12:03:52
I think Waits is shit - drunken depressive drug induced ramblings over badly a played bluesey band. Mind you, that's not dissimmilar to a lot of bands then is it!