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PosterBoy
08-11-2001, 13:54:50
I need help getting out of a rut of just noodling away ( very creatively) on my guitar, rather than writing songs.

Help!!!!!!!!!!!

Motivate me, inspire me

post your songwriting methods

Funkodrom
08-11-2001, 13:58:00
I write some lyrics and e-mail them to the band.
They write back with comments ranging from these are really good to these are total shit to no response which is even worse, I'd rather inspire hatred than apathy.

Then I go and play my guitar for a bit and think of riffs.

Then we get together as a band, work out entirely new music and see which set of lyrics best fit the music.

C.G.B. Spender
08-11-2001, 14:04:46
I program a groove on the sequencer and play around with the keyboard.

Funkodrom
08-11-2001, 14:07:05
Oh and PosterBoy if you don't write a song today we're all coming to visit you.

PosterBoy
08-11-2001, 14:39:48
Oh Christ!

That did it Mike!

My writer's block is gone!!!!!!!

Funkodrom
08-11-2001, 14:59:20
Excellent. And are you going to record it and upload it so that we don't have to come round to hear it?

PosterBoy
08-11-2001, 15:08:45
I will go out and drink tonight ( purely for inspiration)

write the song and record it tomorrow night ( My girlf will be out)

Probably just me, guitar and Harmonica


Just need to go and get drun....inspiration

Resource Consumer
08-11-2001, 15:21:12
My method is to write a few lyrics when the mood takes me and then do nothing with them. I do the same with guitar riffs.

Then, when I have a real creative blank I say to myself "Right, you have all these bits of lyrics and all these tunes. Now you will right a song tonight".

I suppose that whayt I am getting at is not to force the raw material. It doesn't matter if the song is half-finished - it wan't run away. Just save the old material so you can do the hard work of putting it together when you don't feel that creative.

Of course, that assumes that you have half-finished material lying around. Maybe you are more diligent than me in finishing things. At last count, I have about 40 songs that I need to finish off.

Funkodrom
08-11-2001, 15:39:17
It helps to have someone else to work with. I think so anyway. They can help inspire the bits that are missing or just come up with something that goes with what you have.

Resource Consumer
08-11-2001, 15:53:56
That is true. However, I find I do my best stuff (IMHO) alone. I always think I could have added something better later but I am too polite to change it.

PosterBoy
08-11-2001, 15:57:32
I found an old maths book which i used to write lyrics in but they just embarrass me lots.

They tend to go back to when I was 17.


I'm not sure whether listening to brilliant songwriters is a good thing or not, they tend to make me very self critical.

So far I have in my opinion written 1.5 good songs, which is rather bad, just think if i had to write an album full every year or so!

Funkodrom
08-11-2001, 16:13:35
Listen to The Unholy then anything you write will seem amazing!

Resource Consumer
08-11-2001, 16:30:39
Originally posted by PosterBoy
I found an old maths book which i used to write lyrics in but they just embarrass me lots.

They tend to go back to when I was 17.


I'm not sure whether listening to brilliant songwriters is a good thing or not, they tend to make me very self critical.

So far I have in my opinion written 1.5 good songs, which is rather bad, just think if i had to write an album full every year or so!

Listen to most albums and you don't hear one that has not got a naff track on it somewhere doown the line. If you hear an album with 7 goodies and 1 duffer then I bet people will rave about that.

One exercise you can try, which is what I did in Breathing System, is to write one song a day. It doesn't matter how shite. Just one every night and keep a record. Eventually, you'll find that they start to get better or that you find yourself reworking themes, using but improving old sets of words. I wrote about 200 songs like that in 6 months or so. Some of them (later) became quite good.

Funkodrom
08-11-2001, 16:36:16
Most albums don't even have one good track. :D

PosterBoy
12-11-2001, 13:18:44
I guess it all comes down to practice.

I tend to write some crap and then get disheartend (sp?) rather than working out why it sucks and improving.

I've seen a book on writing better lyrics which gives exercises to improve, so I might get that.

Funkodrom
12-11-2001, 13:23:34
Best way to improve it.... send something to CGB and get him to tell you what he thinks it needs. He's an absolute genius at that kind of thing, RC will back me up on that.

Resource Consumer
12-11-2001, 13:47:00
Absolutely right. Get CGB to have a listen and he'll come up with loads of great suggestions. He got me to look at things in quite a different way.

Funkodrom
12-11-2001, 13:50:10
He spots very different things to a lot of people and even if you don't take his suggestions it makes you think of different ideas which is good.

PosterBoy
12-11-2001, 14:26:27
I would have had a song ready for you all today
but my pc crashed at the weekend and knackered my FAT.
So I've had to load Xp on, and I've lost all my software and have to reload it

Funkodrom
12-11-2001, 14:30:42
Damn...

Resource Consumer
13-11-2001, 23:55:46
Well, you've had a couple of days.....

C.G.B. Spender
14-11-2001, 08:52:10
Originally posted by PosterBoy
I would have had a song ready for you all today
but my pc crashed at the weekend and knackered my FAT.
So I've had to load Xp on, and I've lost all my software and have to reload it Brother!

PosterBoy
14-11-2001, 11:38:27
I'll rework my best song and submit that this week, and work on new stuff as well.


Promise:)

Resource Consumer
14-11-2001, 12:23:27
You all heard him

Funkodrom
14-11-2001, 12:23:37
Might do some recording with the Unholy on the 1st Dec, send money to me and I won't upload it for you. :D