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Back!
05-03-2012, 13:32:54
or should we just say Royal "March"?

(they already won 6-in-a-row astride February, from Jan 28 till Mar 3)

33 g 65 (34) 64 60
March Saints WHam Reading
6* v Ipsw v Watf* v Pomp *mar 7th
10 v Barn v Donc v Leic
13 - - @ Donc
17 @ Millw @ Leeds @ Barn
20 @ Hull v 'Boro @ Peter
24 v Donc @ Burn v Bpool
27 - @ Peter -
31 @ Bpool v Readn @ Wham


here you see March fixtures charted wrt the table


Pts GD P S W R Team
65 30 34 Southampton
64 21 33 @ West Ham

60 15 33 v Reading
56 13 34 @ v Blackpool
56 6 33 v Middlesbrough
55 21 33 Birmingham

54 6 34 Brighton
53 9 33 Cardiff
52 6 32 @ Hull
49 3 34 @ Leeds United
48 8 33 v Leicester
47 4 34 @ Burnley
47 4 33 Crystal Palace
43 - 7 33 v Ipswich
43 - 7 34 v @ Barnsley
43 - 9 33 Derby
43 -13 34 v Watford
38 - 2 33 @ @ Peterborough
34 -12 34 @ Millwall
32 -22 33 Nottm Forest
31 -27 34 Bristol City

28 -19 34 Coventry
26 - 3 33 v Portsmouth
26 -25 32 v v @ Doncaster


up to the end of March, Royals have a slightly better schedule than Hammers
then they play Blackpool on 24th, and the big match away @Hammers will close the month. Can they make up the 4 points delay before going there?
Might they both overtake Saints who have one less game to play?

Funko
05-03-2012, 15:33:33
Just to add a level of intrigue to this if Portsmouth go out of business before the end of the season then all point accrued against them will be taken out of the league table.

Southampton got 1 point
West Ham got 6 points
Reading got 0 points (and play them again tomorrow)

That would make it:

33 g 64 (34) 58 60
March Saints WHam Reading

Fistandantilus
06-03-2012, 10:15:23
That's an odd rule :o

Funko
06-03-2012, 10:48:57
If they can't complete the season, they can't play their final games. So what happens?

Removing them from the equation entirely does seem reasonable?

Fistandantilus
06-03-2012, 12:52:00
I'm just surprised they reached a point in which completing the season is in doubt.

Funko
06-03-2012, 13:01:04
It's an amazing story of corporate mismanagement (some might say corruption, but they'd have to have some proof to say that...) 100m in debt, don't even own their own stadium. Not an attractive proposition for a potential owner. Several clubs of similar size in much better financial shape around.

Back!
06-03-2012, 13:04:24
and now they risk to fall in the hands of a Bad Company

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17256123

Fistandantilus
07-03-2012, 11:15:25
So Reading won, tell them it was all for nothing :p

Funko
07-03-2012, 14:14:57
I know. the fewls.

Back!
08-03-2012, 15:07:38
and Hammers drew v Watford!

Re: Pompey it's not clear to me:
does Birch *have* to find a new owner within a fixed deadline, or does it just depend on Chainrai's moods, when his patience as a creditor wears off and he decides to cut it?

In an interview on Sunday, Chainrai said he will not let the club go under.
The Hong Kong businessman said he will write off some of the 17m he is owed by Pompey if he can find someone else to take charge.
"I am taking over as caretaker, because if I don't the club will be liquidated," he said.
"I'd prefer someone else to come in to keep it going because I am quite upset to see it in the state it is in now."


or does it depend whether they manage to make do with the very small amount of cash remaining, and if that's over before end of season, they're belly up?
Seeing how they already have huge debts, I wonder how just a little more red can make the difference
:cute:

Portsmouth administrator Trevor Birch has admitted the club may not have enough money to see out the season.
"We have a very small amount of money that we have to stretch out for the rest of the season"
"The cash available is worse than we first feared," said Birch.
"We've got to conserve the cash to make sure it takes us through to the end of the season.

Funko
08-03-2012, 15:09:40
They have expenses for things like paying police to police matches, that they can't get away with not paying. Assuming they could get employees to work for free.

Funko
08-03-2012, 15:13:59
OptaJoe (Opta Sports)
24 - Reading have earned more points than any other team in the Championship in 2012. Resolution.

Back!
13-03-2012, 15:52:55
they made 8 consecutive, and tonite they can get the 9th @ Doncaster

that's not a record tho
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_records_in_England#Wins
the current record of 14 consecutive wins in english football, was indeed obtained 3 times in Second Division, twice at the beginning of the last century, once post-wwii, before Arsenal equalled it in EPL 10 years ago

Reading themselves are holding the record from the start of a season, but that was one tier lower, in 85 in 3rd Division
Spurs hold it at 11 for the top flight, and City have set it this season for starting home wins

for football outside england too, see this
http://soccerlens.com/the-longest-winning-streaks-in-football-history/6000/

Funko
13-03-2012, 16:13:25
The Championship is such a ridiculous league that the rampant form side on an 8 win streak will definitely go to the second bottom team and lose 3-0.

Back!
14-03-2012, 08:24:59
oh boy, we jinxed them...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17268080

:D

Back!
14-03-2012, 08:27:48
now after 36 matches the table reads

69 Saints
67 Royals
66 Hammers with 1 game in hand

Funko
14-03-2012, 09:06:28
oh boy, we jinxed them...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17268080

:D

On the contrary, I inspired them to an additional point.

Back!
19-03-2012, 10:41:20
72 Saints
70 Royals
67 Hammers with 1 game in hand

and tomorrow turn favorable to Reading (on paper)

Funko
19-03-2012, 11:06:23
As stated before you can't take anything for granted with an away game in the championship.

Funko
19-03-2012, 11:06:35
but we do appear to have a much harder run in than the hammers.

Got to play everyone else in the top 6 I think.

Funko
19-03-2012, 11:08:53
ok our last 8 games we meet 4 out of the other teams in the top 6

Back!
21-03-2012, 07:23:41
As stated before you can't take anything for granted with an away game in the championship.

oh, dang

Funko
21-03-2012, 08:27:22
It is disappointing though. :(

OTOH another trip to Wembley would be nice.

Fistandantilus
21-03-2012, 08:48:14
What happened?

Funko
21-03-2012, 08:51:29
They went 0-1 ahead away at Peterborough then ended up losing 3-1.

Fistandantilus
21-03-2012, 09:33:47
Oh, but they are still in the hunt, don't they?

Back!
21-03-2012, 09:49:37
while Hull, who were the last ones to beat Reading before their positive streak, conceded an away win to Southampton

Now Reading receive Blackpool, who are in bad form but will fight to regain the playoff zone
Saints and Hammers face easier opponents

Back!
21-03-2012, 09:51:04
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/championship/table

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/reading/fixtures

the easy schedule is now behind them

as Funko pointed out, in the last 8 games they now have to face 7 out of the currently first 11 teams in the table

Funko
21-03-2012, 10:29:22
Oh, but they are still in the hunt, don't they?

Yes. 2nd by 2 points from West Ham who have a game in hand (I'd prefer the points in the bag there anyway!)

We also play both Southampton and West Ham, so potentially we can beat them both and cement a top 2 place... but both are away games.

Funko
21-03-2012, 10:31:19
Anyway we should get a play-off place now, and before this current run that was looking borderline. 11 points ahead of 7th, with 8 to play, that's not guaranteed yet.

MOBIUS
21-03-2012, 10:36:13
Some weird results last night, especially the Leeds Vs Notts Forest one!:D

Also don't forget Cardiff as well in the play off mix - hopefully they can finally put the Carling Cup final behind them as that seems to have seriously derailed their league form of late.

Funko
21-03-2012, 10:53:07
Are you supporting them not West Ham now?

Funko
21-03-2012, 10:54:53
Good to see Swansea doing so well. Their fans were so great and nice at Wembley last year. Great contrast to the incredibly nasty/dangerous Cardiff fans in the semi.

MOBIUS
21-03-2012, 12:01:57
Of course I'm still supporting West Ham, but also Cardiff now that I'm here - oh and Swansea as well! Swansea, or should I say Brendan Rogers (Actually BR is simply the right man at the right time at the right place), has been completely awesome this year!:beer:

Swansea and Cardiff fans are much of a muchness as far as I can tell. I can only suggest that the Cardiff ones were pissed off that they'd lost (not to mention the chip on their shoulder of thinking they're a massive club that deserved to win). Whereas the Swansea ones were magnanimous in victory, probably couldn't quite believe they made it to the Premiership and Wembley is a neutral ground anyway...

Funko
21-03-2012, 13:38:17
Well the same observations were true before the game.

Cardiff are one of the top security clubs along with Milwall.

Back!
26-03-2012, 08:56:27
back on march

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17412322

Reading consolidated their promotion bid with a victory that keeps them five points behind leaders Southampton and four clear of third-placed West Ham.

5th consecutive draw for Hammers, now they can win their pending match @ Peterborough and still be trailing, before they meet Royals on 31st.
This matchday, all teams behind top two drew or lost, down to 9th placed Hull (included)

Funko
26-03-2012, 11:35:50
Yes, very good news. Still lots of tough games, but looking good.

Back!
28-03-2012, 09:14:10
39 g 78 73 72
April Saints Reading West Ham
31 mar @ Bpool @ WHam v Reading
6/7 v Pomp v Leeds @ Barns
9/10 @ CrysP @ Brigh v B'ham
13/14 v Readn @ Saint v Brigh
17 @ Peter v Nottm @ Brstl
21 @ 'Boro v CrysP @ Leist
28 v Coven @ B'ham v Hull



Pts GD S R W Team
78 37 @ Southampton
73 22 v v Reading

72 23 @ West Ham
62 8 @ v Brighton
62 3 @ Middlesbrough
60 19 @ v Birmingham *

60 10 @ Blackpool
60 7 Cardiff
58 4 v Hull
57 2 v Leeds United
56 8 @ Leicester
55 - 8 Derby
54 4 @ v Crystal Palace
54 - 9 Watford
52 - 6 Ipswich
50 3 Burnley *
46 -15 @ Barnsley
44 - 5 @ Peterborough
40 -10 Millwall
40 -18 v Nottm Forest
36 -29 @ Bristol City

35 -17 v Coventry
33 - 3 v Portsmouth
32 -30 Doncaster

* 1 game in hand: Burnley v Birmingham, April 3rd


Hammers have definitely the better run-in

- 1 more home game (this saturday clash)
- Home v Brighton, B'ham & Hull, vs Away for Royals v Saints, Brighton & B'ham

Saints have home games vs Reading & vs two teams in relegation zone... these are weakest but could put up a last-ditch effort

Funko
28-03-2012, 10:44:10
It's going to be very difficult if we lose on saturday. Win would mean we can potentially lose away at S'oton and still be in our own hands.

zmama
28-03-2012, 12:32:12
And they wandered in
From the city of St. John
Without a dime
Wearing coats that shined
Both red and green
Colors from their sunny island
From their boats of iron
They looked upon the promised land
Where surely life was sweet
On the rising tide
To New York City
Did they ride into the street
See the glory
Of the royal scam

Back!
10-04-2012, 09:25:20
It's going to be very difficult if we lose on saturday. Win would mean we can potentially lose away at S'oton and still be in our own hands.

Not only Royals won 4-2 @West Ham :beer:
But Southampton lost in Blackpool then drew @ home v Pompey
Then WHam drew at home v B'ham

the two rivals got thus 4 pts in 3 games, while Royals got already 6 in 2
They have to play tonite @ Brighton, who need a win to regain 6th place over Cardiff, who in turn got it by leapfrogging 'Boro with a victory on their ground

Fistandantilus
10-04-2012, 22:23:21
:beer:

Back!
11-04-2012, 06:33:44
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17594151
woo-hoo!

Back!
11-04-2012, 06:34:26
Hey Mobius, ready for a WestHam-Cardiff semifinal?

Funko
13-04-2012, 14:09:56
HUGE game tonight.

Fistandantilus
13-04-2012, 14:30:11
Every game is a huge game rigt now :D

The Shaker
14-04-2012, 15:23:43
good result too!

Back!
16-04-2012, 06:55:29
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17637590

By Nabil Hassan
BBC Sport at St Mary's Stadium

It would take a monumental slip-up and some very unfortunate results elsewhere for Reading to miss out on promotion now

here, they're cursed!

;)

Funko
16-04-2012, 08:34:06
Could confirm promotion tomorrow.

Funko
18-04-2012, 07:41:03
And we did. :D

Fistandantilus
18-04-2012, 08:10:08
Congrats! :beer:

Funko
18-04-2012, 08:19:03
15 wins in 17 is an amazing run.

Mr. Bas
18-04-2012, 12:28:52
:beer:

Back!
24-04-2012, 14:13:57
and on the 2nd to last match they rested, drawing vs Crystal Palace
:)

but with the Saints defeated in Middlesbrough, this granted Reading the Championship title with one match to go
:beer:

this also means that:

- West Ham can still fight for direct promotion
Southampton v Coventry (relegated)
West Ham v Hull (can't get to Playoffs anymore)
Saints should win, but if they draw and Hammers win by 4, the latters will be promoted on goal difference (if they win by 3 they'd tie, and I don't know about further breakers)

- Blackpool play @ Millwall and they're sure to be in the playoffs
- Birmingham play v champions Reading, and they virtually clinched playoffs too, thanks to huge GD margin over Middlesbrough

- 'Boro gained a last chance to fight for snatching the last playoff berth from Cardiff
Crystal Palace v Cardiff
Watford v Middlesbough
Cardiff should lose and 'Boro win: it's a bit against the odds, but not impossible

I figure this wraps it
stay tuned for the Playoffs

wait, one last thing

West Ham, Blackpool and Birmingham were the 3 teams relegated from Premiership last season

as for the others:
Last season in Premiership

2009 Middlesbough
2008 Reading
2005 Southampton
1929 Cardiff (First Division)

MOBIUS
25-04-2012, 12:44:53
Obviously I'm hoping for a West Ham direct promotion, though highly unlikely, and Cardiff to win through the playoffs...

Anyway, it's entirely likely for Cardiff to fuck it up at the last moment - they did a few years ago when they let Preston slip through on a goal difference of one only a couple of games after being thrashed 6-0 by them. 3 results had to go against them and they duly did - but at least I won about 150 as a result! I will of course be betting on Cardiff to lose and Boro to win this weekend...;)

Back!
26-04-2012, 10:45:12
would you call that a win-win or a lose-lose situation?
:p

and who'd you side for in a likely WestHam v Cardiff semifinal?

MOBIUS
30-04-2012, 08:34:04
Well that's what we have now. I think I'll just go with 'may the best team win' and hope whoever makes it to Wembley does the business.

Actually, tbh I'm probably shading Cardiff to win because I'm pissed off that West Ham basically threw it away and put me in this situation in the first place!

Funko
30-04-2012, 09:46:17
Blackpool FTW. The only nice club out of the lot.

MOBIUS
30-04-2012, 11:08:32
:lol:

If I were truly neutral I would probably agree with you...

Funko
30-04-2012, 11:15:52
And another season of Holloway in the Premiership is what we all want.

Funko
18-05-2012, 09:19:51
Linked with Joe Cole and Jermaine Defoe this morning. :eek:

Fistandantilus
18-05-2012, 12:08:58
Has Cole been good at Lille?

Funko
18-05-2012, 12:21:48
No idea! Who has any interest in French football? Their good players play in the good leagues.

Fistandantilus
18-05-2012, 12:26:47
:lol: agreed

Back!
18-05-2012, 14:31:13
sorry I didin't the updates....

I watched Montpellier-Lille last sunday

Cole got in in the last minutes, in time to show a couple inane lost balls

Lille, needed a win, a draw or a defeat was completely indifferent to them.
so they went all forward in stoppage time, and conceded a fastbreak at '94 letting Montpellier score.
Their top striker and scorer got even caught up by a defender, but he held his nerve and the ball near the bottom line and managed to pass it back to the trailing Fana, who'd been the last of the benchsitters all season long and got just put in few minutes before, and eased it in the wide open goal.

Nothing changed for Lille, a huge difference for Montpellier (and PSG) who now are 3 pts clear instead of 1 !
To make it easier, Auxerre lost vs OM so they're already officially relegated.

Montpellier just need now a draw vs a relegated team, instead of a win vs a still fighting one...

Back!
18-05-2012, 14:33:41
BTW, this Saturday afternoo Blackpool v West Ham @ Wembley

Fistandantilus
18-05-2012, 14:41:42
The fact he isn't even a starter at Liille doesn't seem good...

Fistandantilus
30-05-2012, 23:02:06
So who is this Zingarevich guy.

Funko
31-05-2012, 07:37:30
Abramovich Lite.