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Fistandantilus
31-08-2011, 12:39:24
Started today. Is this the year for Greece? Where is Paiktis when you need him?

Funko
31-08-2011, 12:46:30
Eurobasketcase?

maroule
31-08-2011, 15:48:51
Spain looks a cut above actually Greece and the rest actually.

Funko
31-08-2011, 16:28:41
Where is it being held? Will they do a nice racial stereotype team pic again?

maroule
02-09-2011, 08:10:20
Lithuania
apparently it's widely popular, they're basket basket-cases there
ah ah ah ah ah I'm so funny

Fistandantilus
02-09-2011, 23:28:51
Tony Parker is still annoyingly good.

maroule
05-09-2011, 08:56:10
take that, Dirk
Tony was great indeed but Pietrus defended very well on Dirk
Noah is also ramping up
with the victory against Italy afterwards, France is looking good. Germany-Serbia and France-Serbia will be big.

Funko
05-09-2011, 09:08:27
I'm guessing we aren't in this.

maroule
05-09-2011, 10:25:46
apparently you suck at basketball, at volleyball, at handball etc.
don't know why, they're pretty cool sports... you're sulking because you didn't invent them?

Funko
05-09-2011, 10:31:30
We're good at pretty much everything else. We have an immensely broad amount of sports that we're good at, so it is weird that we're not so much on those.

I guess Rugby Union, League and Cricket take up the slack for those sports.

maroule
05-09-2011, 15:31:01
I suppose
I can understand for handball and volley, they're fairly minor, but it's weird to see a sport like basketball being a bit ignored in sports crazy UK, since it's such a massive sport internationally, with more than a bit of marketing muscle behind it. However, you are in the Euro, you're just seen as a minor country.

Funko
05-09-2011, 15:50:05
Ah ok. Normally we don't qualify I don't think? Just seen we won a game! WOO!

Basketball is very much seen as a USA sport here. I don't really have any concept of it being big internationally. That's a bit of a surprise. I think no-one plays it because no-one really has any exposure to it. It's barely on TV, and only on tiny channels when it is. There is a small pro league but it's filled with American cast off players.

Whenever I have watched it it's been really boring. I remember people telling me NBA is boring, and the international and college basketball is much more interesting... but I've never watched any of those.

maroule
06-09-2011, 07:15:13
it is still very US dominated, but it's widely popular in a lot of unlikely places, that are not really US centric (Serbia and the rest of ex Yugo, baltic countries, China, Greece), and also the usual western countries (France, Germany trailing behind Spain at the moment, Israel, etc.).

It became a hit in France 15 years ago when a lot of young blacks in the suburbs started playing street basketball (rather than switching to football) and watching the NBA. Now it's pretty massive, and it drags a lot middle class kids. Still far behind football, but has more registered players than in rugby.

Fistandantilus
06-09-2011, 07:59:27
I think it's still the second most played sport in Italy.

Funko
06-09-2011, 08:09:58
OK this is interesting.

http://www.sportengland.org/research/active_people_survey/active_people_survey_5/idoc.ashx?docid=ce669761-3c5f-415d-8889-0b1e45ff5e6d&version=2

Sports who have people participating once a week:

Sport England NGB 09-13 Funded sports %
Swimming 7.83%
Football 5.18%
Athletics 3.89%
Cycling 4.26%
Golf 2.29%
Badminton 1.29%
Tennis1 1.18%
Equestrian 0.82%
Squash and racketball 0.71%
Bowls2 3.40%
Cricket 0.49%
Rugby Union3 0.56%
Basketball 0.45%
Netball 0.29%
Boxing 0.26%
Table Tennis4 0.18%
Mountaineering5 0.21%

Funko
06-09-2011, 08:16:45
The Dutch giants should be best at Eurobasket? jj?

maroule
06-09-2011, 09:24:43
true enough
interestingly, the best player in France is quite small (1m88)

Back!
06-09-2011, 10:17:33
I think it's still the second most played sport in Italy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_in_Italy

. Football is the most popular sport in Italy. Basketball and volleyball are the next most popular/played, with Italy having a rich tradition in both.
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Italy is one of the main basketball nations of Europe, along with Spain, Serbia, Greece, Slovenia, Lithuania, Croatia, Russia, Turkey. ...? Oh, yeah... and France. It has a long and rich tradition in the sport. The national team's best results were gold at Eurobasket 1983 and 1999, as well as Silver at the Olympics of 2004. Until the 2000s, the Italian league was considered the strongest domestic league outside of North America. It has recently been overtaken by the Spanish ACB, but is still one of the top leagues in Europe

2009 statistics by Italian Olympic Committee
http://www.coni.it/index.php?id=5412

ATHLETES (i.e. not just participating, but registered to a Federation or *Association)


2009
4'363'445

1125440 27,1% FIGC Calcio = Soccer
327'031 7,9% FIPAV Pallavolo = Volley
322'556 7,8% FIP Pallacanestro = Basket
240'999 5,8% FIT Tennis
229'525 5,5% FIPSAS Pesca Sportiva = Angling / Underwater Sports
163'948 3,9% FIDAL Atletica Leggera = Athletics (F&T)
150'698 3,6% FMI Motociclismo = Motorcycle racing
117'635 2,8% FISE Sport Equestri
113'846 2,7% FIB Bocce = Bowls
113'039 2,7% FIBa Badminton
110'126 2,6% FIJLKAM Arti marziali = Martial Arts (incl. Judo-Karate-Wrestling)
105'204 2,5% FIN Nuoto = Swimming (inc. Diving, Waterpolo)
100'317 2,4% FIG Golf
99'769 2,4% FIDS Danza Sportiva = Dance Sport
99'345 2,4% FIV Vela = Sailing
98'462 2,4% FISI Sport Invernali = Wintersports (not on Ice)
98'353 2,4% FGI Ginnastica
72'571 1,7% UITS Tiro a Segno = Shooting (Fixed Target)
69'349 1,7% FCI Ciclismo = Cycling
59'624 1,4% FIR Rugby
52'739 1,3% *FID Dama = Chequers
38'793 0,9% FIPCF Pesi = Weightlifting
38'106 0,9% FIGH Pallamano = Handball
27'280 0,7% FIHP Hockey e Pattinaggio = Roller Skating & Hockey
25'414 0,6% *FIGB Bridge
25'099 0,6% *FIBiS Biliardo = Billiards
24'377 0,6% FITAV Tiro a Volo = Shooting (Flying Target)
23'255 0,6% ACI Automobilismo sportivo = Car Racing
20'592 0,5% FITARCO Tiro con l'Arco = Archery
18'760 0,5% FISG Sport Ghiaccio = Ice Sports (inc. Figure Skating & Ice Hockey)
17'961 0,4% FIBS Baseball - Softball
16'312 0,4% FIS Scherma = Fencing
16'019 0,4% FITA Taekwondo
14'915 0,4% *FIKB Kickboxing
14'896 0,4% *FITETREC Turismo equestre
14'071 0,3% *FSI Scacchi = Chess
13'227 0,3% FISN Sci Nautico = Waterski
12'553 0,3% FITeT Tennistavolo = Table Tennis
12'552 0,3% *FASI Arrampicata Sportiva = Climbing
12'246 0,3% *FIPT Tamburello = Racquetball?
12'041 0,3% *FIWuK Kung FU
11'593 0,3% FIGS Squash
11'497 0,3% AeCI Aeronautica Sportiva
11'077 0,3% FITri Triathlon
10'114 0,2% FIC Canottaggio = Rowing
9'529 0,2% FPI Pugilato = Boxing
9'360 0,2% FICK Canoa - Kayak
8'144 0,2% FIH Hockey Prato = Field H.
5'138 0,1% FIDASC Caccia = Hunting (!)
4'429 0,1% *FISO Orientamento = Orienteering
4'287 0,1% *FISB Bowling
4'224 0,1% FIM Motonautica = Water Motorsports
4'014 0,1% FIPM Pentathlon Moderno
994 0,0% *FCrI Cricket

the source is in italian, I provided a translation where not evident

Basket and Volley have been contending 2nd place over the last decade, Basket was 2nd in 2008 but Volley overtook it by "Athletes" in 2009

could find no data breaking down by sport the population who "just practice once a week"

BTW, I advise you to scroll down till bottom
:D

Funko
06-09-2011, 10:30:34
I couldn't find data on officially affiliated participants in the uk. :)

Back!
06-09-2011, 10:42:48
hhmmm.... wouldn't you expect more FICK affiliates?

Fistandantilus
06-09-2011, 11:07:05
I'm way more surprised at the love Badminton is receiving.

Back!
12-09-2011, 07:57:42
and now it's maroule v paiktis, this thursday

Fistandantilus
17-09-2011, 10:16:13
That ended badly.

And France never won Eurobasket in their history, them reaching the final is bad enough, let's hope for Spain to stop this madness.

maroule
19-09-2011, 09:09:26
Spain was clearly superior, despite our best efforts, kudos to them

Back!
19-09-2011, 12:34:58
Parker? Nowitzki? Bargnani?

bah, Europe = —BA