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devilmunchkin
13-05-2011, 09:29:08
I'm not sure if any of you (other than Provost) can help me but I thought I'd ask...

Are there any good places in Manchester for students to live? Are there any areas I should stay away from?

What is the public transportation like?

I'm starting to look for a place to stay - a 1 bedroom apartment (flat?) perferrably. I'm a poet who doesn't like to live with people.

I found this place: http://search.manchesterstudenthomes.com/landlordportal/student/PropertyInfo.aspx?AdvertID=9ceadeaf-df87-4f87-9539-b7276b2d843b

and thought it was adorable. Doesn't seem expensive either. Is 5.3 miles away from campus. So I asked myself "What's the catch?"

Manchester Student Housing suggested I stay in a hotel for a few nights when I first arrive and then find a place. I hate that idea. I want to know I have a home to go to. I'm just trying to be as safe as possible.

Funko
13-05-2011, 09:42:20
In UK terms 5.3 miles from Campus is a long way. Especially if you are not on public transport. I'd look for somewhere closer. Salford has the reputation of being quite rough. *End is Forever* is a councillor there, so he'd be able to tell you more. Maybe I'll facebook him and get him to have a look at this.

There's a really good site for Public Transport in Manchester

http://www.tfgm.com/

They have a journey planner where you can put in your route and see how long it would take. Looks like about an hour changing buses

*End Is Forever*
13-05-2011, 09:45:53
That flat is in Lower Kersal. It's a long way and the buses aren't great. Which University are you studying at and which campus/building are you going to be based at?

Cheshire Cat
13-05-2011, 09:50:52
Ideal for couples, mature students, international students and postgraduates

checked 3 out of 4, 'twas too good to be true!
;)

devilmunchkin
13-05-2011, 10:20:52
In UK terms 5.3 miles from Campus is a long way. Especially if you are not on public transport. I'd look for somewhere closer. Salford has the reputation of being quite rough. *End is Forever* is a councillor there, so he'd be able to tell you more. Maybe I'll facebook him and get him to have a look at this.

There's a really good site for Public Transport in Manchester

http://www.tfgm.com/

They have a journey planner where you can put in your route and see how long it would take. Looks like about an hour changing buses

Holy crap! An hour? I could run that in an hour (I'm not kidding. I really could.)

Ian - I'm going to U of Manchester.

I'm trying to avoid the rough places. I'm a very small female who will be alone and very far from home. My cat does not know kung-fu.

MDA
13-05-2011, 11:03:54
are you sure? all cats at least know sushi

devilmunchkin
13-05-2011, 11:35:24
My cat has never met sushi. I'll have to see if I can find sushi flavored cat treats.
Does England have a good variety of cat treats?
I've already heard I'm in for disappointment in the cereal and ice cream department.

Do you all at least have Campbell's Tomato Soup?

Fistandantilus
13-05-2011, 11:52:32
You feed ice cream to your cat?

Funko
13-05-2011, 11:54:01
Do you all at least have Campbell's Tomato Soup?

Yes.

Back!
13-05-2011, 11:54:05
does UK allow the import of LIVE PETS??????????

Cheshire Cat
13-05-2011, 11:55:30
hey, keep clear!
and go Back! to your sports forum!!!

Funko
13-05-2011, 11:56:29
Sometimes.

If it's a cat from Mainland USA then it can come in without quarantine.

http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-pets/pets/travel/pets/

Bit of a faff to get the cat ready.

http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-pets/pets/travel/pets/pet-owners/

Provost Harrison
13-05-2011, 12:07:44
Yeah, Iain in the best bet for asking questions - I am a bit of a newbie at the moment. But both me and Funko can summon his spirit at will ;)

But he's right...for a student, 5.3 miles from campus seems a *bloody* long way - there is no reason you can't be virtually on top of the place with the amount of accommodation nearby to your uni (it was the Uni of Manchester itself yeah?), and really this is *moderately* close for the Uni of Salford (albeit not that close)...but this isn't where you are studying.

I suspect you want to be somewhere to the south of the city centre not the Salford or North Manchester end.

Provost Harrison
13-05-2011, 12:10:47
But anyway, where are my manners...welcome to Manchester...when do you actually move?

devilmunchkin
13-05-2011, 20:25:53
I assume some time in late August or very early September.

I guess I didn't think about the 5.3 miles. It is nothing to me. However, I will try to find something closer. Just trying to avoid bad neighborhoods or neighborhoods that charge a lot to live in.

In terms of paying rent, what does "pppw" mean?

Once in a blue moon, I will give my cat a bit of ice cream. I don't like to give her people food, though she thinks she's entitled.

Funko - I am going to try and prep my cat so that she is not quarantined. However, it looks like the rules are very strict. I think I even have to come in on specific routes on specific airlines, which I think is silly.

Would it be better to fly directly in to Manchester or land in London and find another way to get to Manchester? (train?)

Fistandantilus
13-05-2011, 21:09:19
Per person per week? Wild guess.

Greg W
14-05-2011, 01:50:17
Brits seem to have a strange phobia about distances. I think it comes from living in such a small country. I remember when they said that I'd never manage to drive 300 odd miles per day for two weeks while travelling around the UK on the trip I planned. Did it in a canter, though most of them thought it was utter insanity.

So, take anything they say about distances with a grain of salt, they're a bit odd like that. Must admit that I'd probably have a look at the transport lines into/out of the Uni and try and live close to one in a decent suburb. An hour with changing buses to travel 5.3 miles sounds ridiculous.

Lurker
14-05-2011, 04:12:03
Great thread. Good luck dm.

Provost Harrison
14-05-2011, 11:30:30
Well 5 miles in a dense urban area is quite a long way...especially as where she wants to be is on the other side of the city centre where there is plenty of student accommodation too.

Provost Harrison
14-05-2011, 11:30:55
Per person per week? Wild guess.

This.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
14-05-2011, 13:28:38
I don't like to give her people food, though she thinks she's entitled.


Soylent green?

Provost Harrison
14-05-2011, 14:00:46
:lol:

Besides, cats always think they're entitled. They're cats. A swift kicking will take care of that.

devilmunchkin
14-05-2011, 21:24:17
Well 5 miles in a dense urban area is quite a long way...especially as where she wants to be is on the other side of the city centre where there is plenty of student accommodation too.

I suppose I didn't think of the 5 miles because I come from huge states in the US. I consider a long drive going 500 miles south to Los Angeles. A medium drive is 72 miles west to San Francisco. A train can get you to either place within a short period of time.

The website I'm looking at (http://www.manchesterstudenthomes.com/
)

asks for areas of the city. I'm not sure where these areas are located.

Provost Harrison
14-05-2011, 22:00:25
Let me check...

Provost Harrison
14-05-2011, 22:07:49
Actually most of the ones in the "Popular areas" are quite handily located for you - Didsbury and Withington are getting a bit far off to the south though.

devilmunchkin
16-05-2011, 07:53:54
I worry - they all have such rich-people sounding names.

Funko
16-05-2011, 09:38:39
So, take anything they say about distances with a grain of salt, they're a bit odd like that. Must admit that I'd probably have a look at the transport lines into/out of the Uni and try and live close to one in a decent suburb. An hour with changing buses to travel 5.3 miles sounds ridiculous.

Almost like we knew that would be the case with public transport... I can cover the 45 miles to London on the train quicker than I can get from one end of Reading to the other on the bus.

Don't forget, 5.3 miles in UK terms means you are basically in the next city along.

Fistandantilus
16-05-2011, 11:31:03
And driving 300 miles per day for two weeks is still insane Greg, no matter how you put it :p

MDA
16-05-2011, 11:48:50
:lol:

Besides, cats always think they're entitled. They're cats. A swift kicking will take care of that.

Expect cat shit in your bed or closet in the near future! Then you will learn who has real ultimate power.:ninja:

Funko
16-05-2011, 11:50:47
And driving 300 miles per day for two weeks is still insane Greg, no matter how you put it :p

Yeah. Who'd want to spend 4-6 hours a day driving if they are on holiday?

Fistandantilus
16-05-2011, 11:55:28
Maybe Yoshi would, but that's a special case.

Funko
16-05-2011, 11:58:06
He'd rather go to the pub.

MDA
16-05-2011, 11:58:09
Trains are awesome. Second only to work-from-home days.

Funko
16-05-2011, 11:58:38
That is actually probably why we think it's crazy. You can't get absolutely shit faced all day if you are driving, and what else would you do on holiday?

Cheshire Cat
16-05-2011, 12:18:43
And driving 300 miles per day for two weeks is still insane Greg, no matter how you put it :p

hhhmmmm....
"UK round-trip"
ViaMichelin:
London - Edinburgh - Glasgow - Plymouth - London
1160mi
(up to 1400 if you add Norwich, Swansea, Dover)

how did you get to 4200?
that's a lot extra mileage for daily excursions

or did you zig-zag your way thru it by weaving back and forth between the two coasts?
;)

Funko
16-05-2011, 12:30:15
Now plot that route making sure you have to drive past every single castle ever built in the UK. :D

Funko
16-05-2011, 12:30:49
It's a good point though. 300 miles a day in 2 weeks to go 1500 miles is insane. :D

Greg W
16-05-2011, 14:15:35
Oh, it may have been 200 odd a day. I was guessing.

The trip was, however...

London - Windsor Castle - Stonehenge - Tintagel - Bath - Chester - Conwy Castle - Snowdonia Nat Park - Manchester - Stirling - Edinburgh - Loch Ness - Eilean Donan Castle - Loch Lomond(?) - York (via Riveaulaux(?) Abey) - Woodstock - London.

Funko
16-05-2011, 15:12:15
Is each - a day?

Most of those are much, much less than 300 miles.

Fistandantilus
16-05-2011, 15:20:10
The trip from Australia to London is included and raises the mean a lil bit.

Lurker
16-05-2011, 15:22:58
:lol:

Funko
16-05-2011, 15:23:12
:lol:

Greg W
16-05-2011, 15:31:18
:lol:Is each - a day?

Most of those are much, much less than 300 miles.No, that wasn't each day, that was just the easiest way to trace the route. Trying to remember how many days we did that in... 10 Maybe?

IIRC I spent a night each in:
Near Stonehenge
Bath
Chester (x2)
Manchester
Edinburgh
(possibly one up in Scotland somewher near Loch Ness or Eilean Donaan Castle?)
Loch Lomond
York

That'd be 9 nights, 10 days. And sounds about right.

Greg W
16-05-2011, 15:50:06
Actually, I just found the original thread...Day 1 - London - Windsor - Stonehenge
Day 2 - South Cadbuty - Tintagel
Day 3 - Bath
Day 4 - Chester
Day 5 - Snowdonia - Caernarfon/Beaumaris/Conwy - Chester
Day 6 - Manchester
Day 7 - Edinburgh
Day 8 - Edinburgh/Stirling
Day 9 - Loch Ness
Day 10 - Eilean Donan - Loch Lomond
Day 11 - drive to York
Day 12 - York
Day 13 - Return to London, possibly via somewhereSo 13 days all up.

Noisy's comment:Yes, it's a lunatic schedule. Avebury to Tintagel is nothing compared to Loch Lomond to York. We did try telling him when he first proposed it. Unfortunately Greg's fixed points of reference were at opposite ends of Britain. Luckily, he should have missed the worst of the holiday traffic now that the schools are back: the only trouble is that the rush-hours have started being hell again. :cute:

Greg W
16-05-2011, 16:07:29
Typing all those places into Google comes up with a rough count of 1,858 miles. Or, 2,990 kms. Mind you, it was a little more complicated than that, but that's a decent start and would probably be within 10-20%...

Provost Harrison
16-05-2011, 18:03:19
I worry - they all have such rich-people sounding names.

:lol: How names can be deceptive. The first time my mother heard of "Blackbird Leys" she thought it must be lovely. How gutted she was...

*End Is Forever*
17-05-2011, 15:15:35
DM - you want to look at the studenty areas in South Manchester - Fallowfield and Withington. Closer to the University and a bus service that is pretty much unparalleled in western Europe because so many students live there.

Provost Harrison
17-05-2011, 18:03:33
If it's unparalleled in Western Europe, I can't really see it being potentially paralleled in any other places :p

Dyl Ulenspiegel
17-05-2011, 19:14:48
Why would anyone in Western Europe or elsewhere want to build a parallel busline in Fallowfield and Withington?

jsorense
17-05-2011, 20:11:45
:hmm: In a parallel universe, oh course. :p

devilmunchkin
25-05-2011, 00:31:41
DM - you want to look at the studenty areas in South Manchester - Fallowfield and Withington. Closer to the University and a bus service that is pretty much unparalleled in western Europe because so many students live there.

I was worried because Fallowfield was about 2 miles away from campus. If 5 miles is far, I was worried that 2 would be as well.


I looked at Fallowfield, Victoria Park, Didsbury, Rusholme, Hulme, Moss Side, Whalley Range, Old Trafford, Chorlton, Levenshulme, Longsight, and Withington.

The problem is that many areas do not have flats for rent on http://www.manchesterstudenthomes.com/index.php/home

That is the specific site I'm looking at. I've been able to find three properties but I'm not even sure if they allow cats.

Here are a few:

1) In Fallowfield on Egerton Road: http://search.manchesterstudenthomes.com/landlordportal/student/PropertyInfo.aspx?AdvertID=e8d55963-dfec-46c9-b22e-b582e328a6ac

2) In Fallowfield on Lloyd Street:
http://search.manchesterstudenthomes.com/landlordportal/student/PropertyInfo.aspx?AdvertID=acc08c35-d363-4607-af65-84677ed46239

3) Victoria Park on Hathersage road:
http://search.manchesterstudenthomes.com/landlordportal/student/PropertyInfo.aspx?AdvertID=57e970f4-80b6-46b2-a556-cafa00f139be

Lazarus and the Gimp
25-05-2011, 18:08:32
Moss Side is a pretty notorious area. Doubtless a Mancunian can tell us how much it's improved, but it carries a horrible reputation.

Funko
25-05-2011, 18:16:35
Yeah, definitely. I'd avoid.

Provost Harrison
25-05-2011, 21:15:50
Well Fallowfield should be quite an easy journey to the uni by bus so shouldn't pose you any problems for getting to the university. But they all look pretty well located.

No dishwashers? How will you cope? :p

devilmunchkin
26-05-2011, 09:02:12
I haven't lived in a place with a dishwasher since I was a teenager. Since moving out on my own, I've always washed dishes by hand.

I absolutely hate it though. Which reminds me.. I'm out of bowls and spoons.:gasmaske::gasmaske:

I wonder if more establishments will advertise properties on that site. It seems like that site makes sure the property is decent.

Provost Harrison
26-05-2011, 18:35:22
Well student properties can be a bit hit or miss. I am sure there are other sites out there, but it has been a while since I was last a student...

Japher
26-05-2011, 20:39:48
but you have been schooled lately

MattHiggs
26-05-2011, 22:45:38
Hello, long time no post, I can confirm that looking for a place in Fallowfield would definitely be the best option. There's a bus every few minutes and it'd take around 10 minutes to get into Manchester. I lived there for nearly two years whilst I was at university and the diversity of residents around the area is brilliant. A bonus, well for me anyway, is its close proximity to Rusholme, so you can be assured of cheap quality Indian food (something you'll get used to whilst living in Manchester!) If you look for somewhere further south such as Didsbury/Heaton Moor then you're looking at a more standard residential area with a lesser student population. I'm not 100% sure but it may be a little more costly to live there too.

Salford isn't too bad, there are nicer areas: Monton, Worsley, Roe Green areas - a bus ride usually takes around 30 minutes from past experience and are quite frequent. It depends on what you want from the area though really: Fallowfield is full of students and is always busy and Didsbury is to a lesser extent. Most other parts are quite quiet. Personally I'd avoid: Broughton, Kersal, Mosside, Longsight, Hulme and Levenshulme.

Rich, I didn't know you were living in Manchester?

Provost Harrison
30-05-2011, 18:58:01
Hey Higgsy, yeah, I finally moved back up North after a good while in London...and as I am now self employed with no ties to the area I decided to make the move I was originally going to make. Just a bit later than expected!