View Full Version : MOBIUS - why did you keep this a secret?

03-11-2010, 10:09:00

New Zealand wine first in world to come with carbon footprint label
Bottles of MOBIUS Marlborough sauvignon blanc will display carbon emissions per glass, adapted for each export market

Where's our free samples?

03-11-2010, 10:42:34
Curses, my cunning plan has been exposed! :cute:

I'm still waiting on my own supply from NZ, but you can have a free sample when you next visit after that!

I notice the UK is the largest importer of wine in the world now, is that single-handedly down to you and Tizzy...?

03-11-2010, 11:17:58

It's mainly because we produce so little. Most of the other big consumers are also big producers.

03-11-2010, 15:33:29
Bring on the global warming then!:beer:

03-11-2010, 15:41:12

It's mainly because we produce so little.

Why is that, too much rain?
I thought southern England was not much different from northern France climate wise. Sparkling wine should be good?

03-11-2010, 15:59:11
Yes. Generally we're a bit further north, but they have a more continental climate 'cause they can go further inland so the rainfall is a bit more limited in summer. The South East of England is on the same basin as Champagne, the soils are much the same. And the champagne houses are buying up land here. There are a few English wineries producing world class sparkling wine.

An English wine won the Decanter International award this year for the first time, which is a very serious prize. Not like some of the micky mouse 'blind tastings' English sparklers have won before against some poor French fizz.


We're massively improving, but the climate everywhere is very marginal and we need a lot of blending and cross vintage blending. I've been to two British wineries this year, drunk wine from a few more and the quality is massively improving.

For still wine probably the best single variety is Bacchus, which is herbaceous with hints of nettle and elderflower. Sauvignon Blanc-esque in style. In more marginal areas and years blends with Siegerrebe and Madeline can be decent, a fruitier style.

I can recommend Chapel Down Bacchus Reserve 2009, and Three Choirs Bacchus 2008

The reds are all pretty bad. A tiny bit of decent pinot in really good years, but mostly it doesn't ripen enough and it's used in sparkling.

03-11-2010, 16:00:12
MOBIUS - Three Choirs is very close to you, you should go.

03-11-2010, 16:03:46
And production is increasing:


But we don't have the long traditions you do in the rest of Europe. (Although the Romans had loads of vines here).

03-11-2010, 16:05:03
And English wine is still expensive compared to equivalent quality from overseas.

03-11-2010, 16:09:13
Yes, I think we discussed this before. It's my excuse for finally visiting Newent - prob next year now. :wine:

03-11-2010, 16:09:50
PS, why don't we have a wine smiley yet!? :tizzy:

03-11-2010, 16:12:29
Find a good one and I'll add it.

03-11-2010, 16:25:07



03-11-2010, 16:54:09
That last one might be :tabasco:

03-11-2010, 17:22:41
Yes, I want one with a smiley holding a nice wine glass please. The top one looks like a Heineken bottle.

Greg W
04-11-2010, 01:19:40


Mind you, the first one looks odd on a black background. :(