PDA

View Full Version : A little decision.


paiktis
21-08-2010, 20:38:24
..........

MDA
21-08-2010, 23:16:04
:beer:

Greg W
22-08-2010, 01:34:09
Sounds good to me! Gets you out of that place you're in, which seems to be bad for you! And you can help out your mum, which is great. :beer:

DaShi
22-08-2010, 11:22:45
I fail to see what this has to do with the earthquake.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
22-08-2010, 15:06:17
- connection to the city center?
- how will you arrange the two appartments on the lot?

paiktis
22-08-2010, 18:30:29
.......

Greg W
23-08-2010, 02:04:13
Sounds like a good plan! :beer:

Cheshire Cat
23-08-2010, 06:42:18
GREEK CG MEETING!

:beer:

Dyl Ulenspiegel
23-08-2010, 08:50:40
"there is ample space for two or three stories buildings"

If there is ample space wouldn't you prefer two semi-detached units rather than two appartments stacked?

Cheshire Cat
23-08-2010, 11:00:02
indeed!

with parking lots underneath and rooftop gardens!

MOBIUS
23-08-2010, 11:18:49
The Hanging Gardens of Athens!:beer:

mr_B
23-08-2010, 11:26:59
need an architect?
two friends of mine have an excellent office in Athene.

mr_B
23-08-2010, 11:27:59
indeed!

with parking lots underneath and rooftop gardens!

the good old Corbusier way

MOBIUS
23-08-2010, 11:46:14
He truly was ahead of his time...:D

Cheshire Cat
23-08-2010, 11:59:34
what a stories what a stories

MOBIUS
23-08-2010, 12:02:49
On another level...

MDA
23-08-2010, 12:10:28
:lol:

Oerdin
24-08-2010, 17:57:39
indeed!

with parking lots underneath and rooftop gardens!

Yeah, depending on how big the lot is and how much money there is to work with underground or semi underground parking (especially if it is on a hill side) with two semi-detached buildings above sounds like the way to go. If you made them C shaped then they could share a small front yard and still each have private roof top gardens. Hell, I'd go green with the whole thing with a rain catchment system, solar panels, passive heating and cooling, and natural but earthquake resisitent construction materials (wood with foam cealed hay bails might work). Done right green buildings aren't just cheaper to operate but are also cheaper to build.

MDA
24-08-2010, 18:23:07
and done wrong you have hay-infused rainwater growing exotic things in your walls!

Done right is always good, though.

paiktis
24-08-2010, 18:24:37
...........

Cheshire Cat
25-08-2010, 07:24:20
a great innovative green idea:
eolic turbines with solar-paneled blades!

Funko
25-08-2010, 07:53:42
Maybe talk to mr_B's architect friends, get an idea of what you can do and costs.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
25-08-2010, 09:45:18
"a two story building with two appartments"

Well, it's just the question - will you separate the two units vertically or horizontally?

Friends of my parents live in a house that was divided into three flats for the heirs. There is constant trouble concerning maintainence, garden use, parking etc. You may not have any conflicts with your mother about that, but maybe you will. Maybe your future psycho wife will. :p

Vertical separation means less potential for conflict, while it has some other drawbacks. Just think about the options; costwise, it shouldn't make much difference.

mr_B
25-08-2010, 14:15:52
Maybe talk to mr_B's architect friends, get an idea of what you can do and costs.

would be my idea,
http://www.pointsupreme.com/content/

mr_B
25-08-2010, 14:36:54
you could talk to them, marianne or Konstantinos.
I met them some months ago in Rotterdam when they visited our office, they are really really talented and very nice people.

mr_B
25-08-2010, 14:38:40
"a two story building with two appartments"

Well, it's just the question - will you separate the two units vertically or horizontally?

Friends of my parents live in a house that was divided into three flats for the heirs. There is constant trouble concerning maintainence, garden use, parking etc. You may not have any conflicts with your mother about that, but maybe you will. Maybe your future psycho wife will. :p

Vertical separation means less potential for conflict, while it has some other drawbacks. Just think about the options; costwise, it shouldn't make much difference.

dont listen to this lawyer talk, those ppl begin with the worst case scenario and that at non-hotdog day.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
25-08-2010, 14:48:43
Not true. The worst case scenario would be "So you commisioned that architectje..."

mr_B
25-08-2010, 15:33:46
now that's funny

Dyl Ulenspiegel
25-08-2010, 15:39:14
and true

mr_B
25-08-2010, 16:04:38
even funniererererer

Dyl Ulenspiegel
25-08-2010, 17:46:10
Weeeell, Mr architectje, would you recommend two flats in that case?

http://www.spassfieber.de/funpics/laterne-durch-loch-in-balkon-gefuehrt.jpg

paiktis
25-08-2010, 19:20:31
..........

Dyl Ulenspiegel
25-08-2010, 19:38:51
It's your projectje, but why does "vertical" require more space?

paiktis
25-08-2010, 19:50:19
because this: I
...................I


uses less space than this: _ _

mr_B
25-08-2010, 20:50:26
I think Dyl always wanted to be an architect but his parents made him go to law school.

Paiktis, do your thing man it's free to make whatever you like, i know those ppl and they are very talented wich does not mean that they will rip your arm out.
It's totally free to make a first appointment.

mr_B
25-08-2010, 20:51:56
Weeeell, Mr architectje, would you recommend two flats in that case?

http://www.spassfieber.de/funpics/laterne-durch-loch-in-balkon-gefuehrt.jpg

you kill me man you really do
why the big frustration about architects and architecture Dyl?

mr_B
25-08-2010, 20:55:07
It's your projectje, but why does "vertical" require more space?

must say mr law is right here

Dyl Ulenspiegel
26-08-2010, 07:16:22
because this: I
...................I


uses less space than this: _ _

Ok, but you can also build

_ _
_ _

instead of

__
__

Dyl Ulenspiegel
26-08-2010, 07:17:44
I think Dyl always wanted to be an architect but his parents made him go to law school.



Yes :cry:

I always wanted to do creative things like this:

http://www.spassfieber.de/funpics/toilette-auf-balkon.jpg

Dyl Ulenspiegel
26-08-2010, 07:26:39
you kill me man you really do
why the big frustration about architects and architecture Dyl?

Mostly just kidding.

The seriously serious frustration concerns the way most of this city is built. The housing stock has been expanded massively from about 1950-1980. This was an era of crappy building quality, based on a design of thoroughly degenerated modernism copied by the hundreds by outright idiots. It's bad housing, shit-ugly and urban madness. Sure, only part of that is architects' fault....

The propensity of many architects to build impractical stuff to follow design fads is more on the funny side...

Funko
26-08-2010, 07:51:31
Well any design is about combining style with functionality. Impractical building space is bad design, unless it's a concept design. Which I guess is like with a concept car. A one off to really show off some aspects without the compromise needed to get a fully practical design.

If it's meant as useable space but made impractical to follow a design fad, that's just bad architecture.

mr_B
26-08-2010, 07:54:07
omg this thread is seriously serious at the moment
a dooooooooooooooo di dooooooooooooooooooooo is at place now

Funko
26-08-2010, 07:54:26
:lol:

Funko
26-08-2010, 07:54:42
"This house has no roof?"

"never mind the weather."

mr_B
26-08-2010, 07:59:01
roofs are overrated

Dyl Ulenspiegel
26-08-2010, 08:02:42
omg this thread is seriously serious at the moment
a dooooooooooooooo di dooooooooooooooooooooo is at place now

jesjes, best at the balcony

http://www.spassfieber.de/funpics/balkon-ohne-tuer.jpg

mr_B
26-08-2010, 08:05:18
bet no architect was involved with that one Dyl

Dyl Ulenspiegel
26-08-2010, 08:21:54
or a "doors are overrated" architect

mr_B
26-08-2010, 08:34:40
nonono doors are necessary

Dyl Ulenspiegel
26-08-2010, 08:39:26
What about roofs?

mr_B
26-08-2010, 09:09:31
not really, great examples of buildings without roofs

mr_B
26-08-2010, 09:09:51
they have doors tho

Back!
26-08-2010, 09:13:29
http://www.lyricsdomain.com/22/van_der_graaf_generator/house_with_no_door.html

There's a house with no door and I'm living there;
at nights it gets cold and the days are hard to bear inside.
There's a house with no roof, so the rain creeps in,
falling through my head as I try to think out time.

There's a house with no bell but then nobody calls;
I sometimes find it hard to tell if any are alive at all outside.
There's a house with no sound; yes, it's quiet there -
there's not much point in words if there's no-one to share in time.

There's a house with no door and there's no living there:
one day it became a wall...well I didn't really care at the time.
There's a house with no light, all the windows are sealed,
overtaxed and strained - now nothing is revealed but time

Dyl Ulenspiegel
26-08-2010, 10:53:46
not really, great examples of buildings without roofs

Examples for housing without roofs? Igloos?

Back!
26-08-2010, 10:57:12
- are you homeless?
- no, just roofless. [proud]

Funko
26-08-2010, 11:06:00
Doorways are necessary. Doors are optional?

Or does that not count as a doorway, just a hole?

Funko
26-08-2010, 11:06:33
Examples for housing without roofs? Igloos?

He said buildings not housing.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
26-08-2010, 11:11:55
jesjes, but I'm interested in housing.

paiktis
28-08-2010, 23:29:22
....

paiktis
28-08-2010, 23:40:47
..........

Dyl Ulenspiegel
29-08-2010, 07:45:16
"my big fat greek building"