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Nills Lagerbaak
30-07-2010, 10:26:13
OK, I am about to assemble a new PC from it's bare components. Wish me luck/call me stupid!

any advice / pitfalls to avoid?

30-07-2010, 10:34:33
Should be relatively easy. If you don't have an anti-static strap just ground yourself to something. (bit of wire to a tap/metal bit of a radiator would do it).

Nills Lagerbaak
30-07-2010, 10:42:14
Yeah I heard about that. Also if you put the PSU into the case and plug it in (but not turned on) first up then it earths the case which is a good thing.

The spec. got upgraded a bit from when Tony looked at it ;)

Nills Lagerbaak
30-07-2010, 10:43:56
One thing I was never sure about is do I need to disable the stock graphics and sound card (in the Bios) to avoid conflicts between the better cards and the onboard cards. I could never find entries for them last time I added cards

30-07-2010, 11:02:35
What is the spec?

I don't think you need to disable them, once it's set up to use the better ones it just ignores them

Nills Lagerbaak
30-07-2010, 11:16:59
Core 2 Quad Intel G41 chipset (with Integrated Intel GMA X4500 graphics) replacing with ATI Radeon 4670)

30-07-2010, 15:59:40
This has the potential to be the best disaster thread since that guy's exploding meaty homebrew.

30-07-2010, 18:39:37
Eh. I just got done building my own and it was pretty easy.

Nills Lagerbaak
04-08-2010, 15:02:26
Project update - returned the motherboard I bought because it supported DDR2 not DDR3 memory. Project delay incurred -1.5 wks

06-08-2010, 12:52:55
I am going to have to get a new PC soon.

I quite like this concept. Building my own. No-one quite seems to do what I want off the shelf.

06-08-2010, 12:56:10
I throughly enjoy it. I don't think I'll ever buy an off the shelf PC again.

Provost Harrison
06-08-2010, 12:56:46
Yeah, it's the reason I have always built my own...every time you look at an off-the-shelf system it looks great in so many senses then there is always some shit to let it down which puts me off. Although I am often travelling and have a work laptop nowadays so buying a new desktop system seems a little pointless all in all - I am not going to go to that expense just to play Civ V...

06-08-2010, 13:01:35
My stuff arrived yesterday, my aunt just lost a job because she wasn't quick enough on the computer, so I'm putting one together and sending it to her in Texas.

Best part is the hard drive has what you put on it, and not a bunch of advert/bloat stuff.

Nills Lagerbaak
06-08-2010, 13:16:06
The 2 SATA Cables on the PSU were too close together for the blu-ray and harddisk, resulting in user anger/rage which in turn resulted in - one broken SATA plug.

Now I need to get a Molex - SATA converter. It's a very fiddly business but really pretty easy.

Oh I need a bloody case fan too.

06-08-2010, 13:30:20
I think I'll get a barebones case, save putting in the PSU, motherboard and all that crap.

eg. http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-G1-P7P55E-Socket1156-Barebone-System/dp/tech-data/B0034U5O90/ref=de_a_smtd

Nills Lagerbaak
06-08-2010, 13:39:14
Good idea. One piece of advice I was given is make sure the PSU is up to the job, A lot of the PSUs that come in cases are often underpecc'd cos it doesn't look "sexy" for a customer. You need to look for enough Ampage on both rails or you might get system hangs and crashes.

06-08-2010, 19:50:18
I just speced out, with a $2000 CDN budget, an awesome gaming rig for my partner (includes 23" LED-backlit monitor).

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AqBAFolRHySOcHRkRjEtSFRWR0VsSkpUeTNOMW5xZ Gc&hl=en&authkey=CIa8xlc#gid=0

It's a very quiet PC also.

09-08-2010, 10:08:10
I think I'm going to treat myself to a self build PC for Civ V. There's an interesting looking company that recently opened in Cardiff called Novatech, which I might source things through - they also have a store in Reading: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/hdoutlets.html

Nills Lagerbaak
17-08-2010, 08:30:31
Well, it's all finished and is up and running. It works like a dream. am playing COD MW 2 on highest setting and it's like a film. Bit too disturbingly real actually

17-08-2010, 09:10:29
What was the spec, cost etc? Seriously thinking about doing the same as a little treat to myself for the end of the month...

Nills Lagerbaak
17-08-2010, 09:35:05
Well ended up being a lot more expensive than I had hoped but then the original spec probably wouldn't be up to the job.

About 100 for the monitor
~70 for windows 7

550W Gold PSU 12cm 24-Pin 550 - 23.73
Asus ATI Radeon 4670 HD 1GB PCI-Express 2.0 x16 - 59.91
Western Digital 500GB Caviar Blue SATA-300 7200rpm 16MB Western Digital 500GB - 35.32

Samsung S-ATA Blu-Ray Combo Player (8X Read) - 49.98
Edimax 802.11g 54Mbps PCI card - 12.88
Asus P5G41C-M LX G41 Socket 775 VGA Out 8 Channel Audio MATX Motherboards - 35.61
Black Midi Case No PSU - 11.33
Kingston ValueRAM 4GB (2x2GB) 1333MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 DIMM 240-Pin Kingston - 74.98

Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 2.50GHz LGA775 FSB1333 4Mb - 108.17
Case fan ~ 8

so about 420 for the basic box.

WAs bdgeting for 370 for everything...whoops.

10-11-2010, 14:09:19
I am probably going to be undertaking this...

10-11-2010, 14:49:13
My biggest problem was always slicing up my fingers on the sheet metal edges of a cheap case. Some of them are sharp enough I didn't realize I'd cut myself until I smeared blood all over the place.

I look for ones with rolled edges now.

10-11-2010, 15:37:45
Just FYI...

Intel has their new architecture coming out in a few months (very early 2011). Will be much faster at the high end and push down current prices on current models significantly.

Nvidia just launched their new video cards (500 series), which are essentially an un-fucked 400 series. ATI/AMD is responding with new Radeons within a couple weeks.

If possible, I'd time the next PC purchase decision til Feb or so (whenever Intel's Sandy Bridge comes out). Better bang, lower buck.

10-11-2010, 16:21:43
Unfortunately my Computer is dead now. :(

10-11-2010, 18:11:41
If you can't be arsed to trawl through all the reviews both PC format and PC gamer publish a recommended spec each month. Gamer even do that for 3 price points.

I basically took the gamer mid price rig and substituted any bits of my old PC that still worked and fitted. Came to under 350 quid (excluding win 7).

Went with a AMD X4 955, 4Gb 1066 Ram, bog standard ASUS MoBo (probably should have gone USB 3 but didn't) Used my old drives and graphics card, bought a new case but kept my old 800W PSU. Was the gamer mid price rig from about 3 months back. Does the job nicely, most of the stuff I play doesn't come close to stretching it (most intensive thing played recently is borderlands), could prob o/c significantly as temps rarely go above 40oC but can't be arsed.

If you go AMD don't use the stock cooler - I have and it sometimes sounds like I am running a hairdryer under the desk.

THink I've used novatech mail order in the past. Generally use Dabs though.

Provost Harrison
30-11-2010, 20:41:58
Well I am due to get a new work laptop in the next few months so I will see what they throw at me then, and see if I can sway the decision a little bit ;)

08-01-2011, 23:20:40
Here's the spec of my new PC. Have yet to build it as the case came broken and I had to send it back. :(

Intel Core i7 950 Bloomfield 45nm, 1
4GB (2x2GB) Corsair XMS3 DDR3 PC3-1 3
650W Antec TruePower New, Modular, 1
1TB Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3, S 2
Gelid Tranquillo,4 Heatpipe + PWM, 1
256GB Crucial RealSSD C300, 2.5" SSD 1
Fractal Design Define R3, Black Pearl 1
Asus Sabertooth TUF X58, Intel X58, 1

No GFX card, using existing one - current PC is going to be my work machine with old GFX card. Came to about 1,000 ex VAT (tax deductible!)

09-01-2011, 03:24:25
Why a 900 series i7?

09-01-2011, 16:50:45
Although my build a comp project failed miserably, one thing I found useful were magnets. With all the screws and other metal components lying around, it's easy to lose track of them. Magnets make it really easy to find and sort everything.

10-01-2011, 12:33:52
Asher, why not? I went with components recommended by Custom PC magazine (probably uk only). Wasn't quite willing to stretch to a i7-980 Extreme.

Dashi, magnets near a PC??! Very bad idea. Is that maybe why your project failed ;)

11-01-2011, 10:29:42
Right, what should I get?

Components budget is ~ 700 (ideally less!)

11-01-2011, 13:43:31
Core i5, 4GB of RAM should be achievable for your budget.

13-01-2011, 15:43:59
Graphics card?

ATI look better at the moment?

1GB HD 6850 looks decent balance between price and performance

Or should I go a bit more for a 5870 or a 6870?

13-01-2011, 16:25:32
Prob with an i5-2500K which appears to be really shitting fast. And relatively cheap. Actually, that looks like a bit of a no-brainer.

Probably need to up the budget slightly.

13-01-2011, 16:30:04
The Sandy Bridge lineup gives us some of the easiest conclusions to write that we've ever come across: the new range of Intel CPUs renders almost every other processor redundant and pointless. Only if you need incredible performance in multi-threaded applications should you look beyond the Core i5-2500K for your next CPU.

Wow. Strong Words.


13-01-2011, 18:23:36
Bonkers how these things change so quickly.