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MDA
27-07-2010, 11:26:20
Today in the US. Not sure about elsewhere.

Fistandantilus
27-07-2010, 11:47:27
Same day worldwide I believe, you could download the digital version starting midnight yesterday.

Ellipsis
27-07-2010, 13:43:43
Have it my grubby hands.

Greg W
27-07-2010, 14:25:36
I saw it on shelves today...

Funko
28-07-2010, 15:43:42
First impressions?

MDA
28-07-2010, 15:53:21
I haven't bought it. I was awful at the first one. By the time I started playing, the online community was mostly hard-core veterans that took me apart in minutes. Single player campaign was fun, though.

Funko
28-07-2010, 15:54:31
I never even played the original. Had good fun with Warcraft III with people from here though.

Greg W
28-07-2010, 16:07:51
I think I played Warcraft 1, 2 and 3 but never Starcraft. I have a feeling when it came out I was in my Everquest obsession... :cute:

JM^3
28-07-2010, 16:25:07
I will get it, I am more excited about it than Civ5 actually.

JM

MOBIUS
29-07-2010, 09:31:00
Er, I never played any of the Warcrafts or Starcraft...:nervous:

JM^3
29-07-2010, 11:09:38
Most RTS I get board of after a bit, a bit longer if I play MP.

Starcrafts MP was so good that I enjoyed it last year even.

JM

MOBIUS
29-07-2010, 11:27:50
Well, I may be tempted if people here want to MP...

Fistandantilus
29-07-2010, 11:31:53
My boss uses to play Starcraft from time to time to relieve stress at work.
His "15 mins pause, do not disturb" announcements became famous :p

I did preorder SC2 but I didn't have time to play much (did the tutorial and the first SP mission) so..

It's a bit annoying you apparently have to log on battlenet even to play single player and the whole region lock thing is odd but other than that my very first impression is positive.

JM^3
29-07-2010, 11:40:05
I ended up downloading the game as the games offered here were EU only.

JM

MOBIUS
29-07-2010, 11:50:29
my very first impression is positive.

Positive? Is that all? Not astoundingly brilliant?

It's got to at least be astoundingly brilliant before I'd bother buying it...:D

Funko
29-07-2010, 12:10:41
It's a bit annoying you apparently have to log on battlenet even to play single player and the whole region lock thing is odd but other than that my very first impression is positive.

Region lock? Does that mean you can't play someone in the US from the EU?

JM^3
29-07-2010, 12:16:28
Yeah :(

JM

MDA
29-07-2010, 12:24:14
If I'm remembering right, EU and US servers were region locked for WoW as well. Zmama needed to get a Euro copy to play with Vinny.

Oceanic servers came later, not sure if they locked as well.

JM^3
29-07-2010, 12:25:05
Online it is very easy to get different regions...

JM

Vincent
29-07-2010, 17:30:13
Starcraft 2 feels very much like Starcraft.
Pros:

Starcraft1!!11!11Eleven
I also like the german translation, the SCV guys are obviously from Berlin. Funny!

Cons:

It's not Warcraft.
No heroes, no items, no LAN matches. Massive armies. The story is a bit boring - I liked Arthas better. No Zerg or Protoss campaign. Kinda Starcraft 1.8

MDA
29-07-2010, 18:05:51
no Zerg or Protoss campaign? boo

JM^3
29-07-2010, 18:57:42
It is Starcraft (I don't mean just the name), that means I am happy. I have bought the old game several times and would again.

JM

Fistandantilus
29-07-2010, 19:55:59
no Zerg or Protoss campaign? boo

Cause it's SC2: Wings of Liberty

SC2: Heart of the Swarm (Zerg campaign)
and
SC2: Legacy of the Void (Protoss campaign)
have already been announced.

Why pass on the opportunity to grab more money? :rolleyes:

Ellipsis
29-07-2010, 20:22:35
I've played a few campaign missions and a few skirmishes against the AI, and as others have said, it's Starcraft.

The Terran campaign has, I think, 29 missions that I'll slowly play through. Playing just as the Terrans is kind of boring, so I play some Zerg and Protoss against the AI. Probably end up watching replays of others more than playing myself, just like Warcraft III...

Fistandantilus
29-07-2010, 20:40:44
Probably end up watching replays of others more than playing myself, just like Warcraft III...

:lol: I admit that's what I did too :nervous:

Funko
30-07-2010, 07:52:06
Yeah :(

JM

Wankers. :(

JM^3
30-07-2010, 11:28:58
I might get two copies

JM

Funko
30-07-2010, 11:46:57
Clever wankers.

Fistandantilus
30-07-2010, 11:53:42
Best thing about Starcraft is there are no Zeppelins

lightblue
30-07-2010, 15:49:05
I think 39.99 (as it is on the high street) or 44.99 (as it is in download from Blizzard) is a bit much for a PC game, which are usually no more than 29.99. Was tempted but not at price range.

Funko
30-07-2010, 15:53:29
Anyone fancy Warcraft III? :D

Ellipsis
30-07-2010, 18:43:06
Well, 40 is the normal price for games here. Was a bit surprised that it didn't cost more, actually. Games used to cost 50 ten years ago. I think Starcraft 1 cost 50 in 1998...

Funko
31-07-2010, 16:53:19
It's the normal rrp but they are always discounted

MDA
31-07-2010, 17:46:58
quote from my brother in law "I lost months of my life to the first one, I'm not sure I want to go there again" :lol:

zmama
01-08-2010, 06:14:33
I got a guest pass, haven't started it up yet cause I will really suck at it. But maybe Monday :)

Ellipsis
01-08-2010, 17:13:41
It's seriously annoying that you have to log in every time you want to watch a replay :(.

Aredhran
11-08-2010, 06:51:07
My game copy just arrived in the mail :D

:shoot:

Balthagor
19-08-2010, 17:29:54
I"m enjoying the game, I like the achievements system, though I'm told it's borrowed from WoW.

Ellipsis
19-08-2010, 18:38:55
After finishing the campaign and watching quite a few high level replays I have mixed feelings. The campaign has some fun maps which play to the strengths of the different units, but the story... Well, I wasn't expecting much, anyway.

Multiplayer replays: Awesome! Some really good games already. At this point, I prefer this to watching TV, or playing myself (but not with myself :o)

Fistandantilus
24-08-2010, 14:56:37
The storyline is nowhere as good as the first one but the sp campaign is very well polished and well presented. Enjoyed it a lot and now i'm trying to get thru it again at brutal difficulty.
I know I'll give up soon :D

Ellipsis
28-08-2010, 15:20:47
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yeah, and also some marines and medivacs... Nerf coming?

JM^3
28-08-2010, 23:31:31
They nerfed seige tanks and reapers.

JM

Ellipsis
29-08-2010, 11:36:53
And they're increasing zealot buid time, making it even easier to 6pool rush Protoss. Yay! :rolleyes: Just great...

Fistandantilus
30-08-2010, 16:03:58
A Zealot rush was nasty and hard to counter, much more than zergling rushes are. We'll see.

Ellipsis
31-08-2010, 06:47:39
I like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUFKah3c_nU

Fistandantilus
31-08-2010, 09:45:02
You like this too? :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1q_5TkC7dQ

Ellipsis
31-08-2010, 15:15:32
Well, that's against Terran. They can rot for all I care. I guess Blizzard care about them, though. Meanwhile I'll continue to 6pool rush Protoss...

Fistandantilus
01-09-2010, 08:28:26
:lol:
But that was bad play. It's not the 6 pool that's strong, if you start extracting gas that early and get rushed you lose, period. If he was rushed with zealots the result would have been the same.
Is as bad as the terran who failed to wall in in my replay.

Ellipsis
01-09-2010, 15:06:37
Bad play = 95% of Protoss on Battle.net

I agree that slowness, teching and focusing too much on the economy should get punished by rushes, but why ignore Terran T1, which is the most broken shit out now, while nerfing poor, poor tossie :cry:

I usually go fast forge and photons against zerg, anyway. Seems to work...

JM^3
01-09-2010, 15:16:00
From the high level players I read advice from (Diamond level), Protoss don't have much trouble right now with 6pool rushes.

I have only tried a 6pool once, against the computer, didn't do well.

JM

Ellipsis
01-09-2010, 15:24:52
Yes, never seen a really high level 6 pool rush, but that isn't the only level that should be balanced.

JM^3
01-09-2010, 15:32:53
Why should it be balanced around people who don't know how to play the game?

JM

Greg W
01-09-2010, 15:56:04
Cos otherwise it'd scare newbies and casual players off? :confused:

JM^3
01-09-2010, 16:07:02
The general understanding I have is that Zerg are tougher for newbies than protoss or (especially) terran.

JM

Ellipsis
01-09-2010, 16:08:22
Blizzard have expressed a goal of balance across skill levels. And not everybody below really high level are "people who don't know how to play the game".

Aredhran
05-09-2010, 10:40:27
So after playing 7-8 of the campaign games which I usually win on Hard without too much sweat, I thought I'd try a melee vs the AI, playing Terran.

After the initial confusion trying to understand why I could not produce medic units from my barracks, only to realize that they had been replaced by another unit coming much later in the game (why did they do that ? I loved my medics !), and just as my first few Marines were rolling out of the Barracks, a horde of Zerglings steamrolled my base :(

I suck :D

Guess I need to be doing some serious reading on strategy and have lots practice before I can play online...

Fistandantilus
05-09-2010, 21:10:04
The marine/marauders/medivacs giant ball is annoying as is :p
I'm glad they removed medics and firebats.

Fistandantilus
13-09-2010, 20:00:16
The storyline is nowhere as good as the first one but the sp campaign is very well polished and well presented. Enjoyed it a lot and now i'm trying to get thru it again at brutal difficulty.
I know I'll give up soon :D

Made it. It seems I have no life after all.

Ellipsis
13-09-2010, 20:10:47
Going through the campaign again would be brutal.

So, how was the last mission at brutal?

Fistandantilus
13-09-2010, 20:53:52
Way easier than I thought. I chose the path to destroy air units in the previous mission so I had to face ground units only.

A line of Perdition towers, a couple of those other towers who slow zergs down and then a field of tanks behind them made it.

With the exception of Kerrigan (you kill her with marines when she arrives) you seriously just have to mass build tanks, put them in siege mode and forget about them. Nothing will ever get close.

I hate Terrans.

Fistandantilus
19-09-2010, 17:42:07
I seriously hate Terrans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNCSSshCQiU

Ellipsis
20-09-2010, 18:39:29
I've now started to check the winner in any replay that involves a Terran. If he wins, I'm not even going to watch.

Fistandantilus
20-09-2010, 20:23:33
:lol:

Did you watch game 2 of that series?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi8nDYGYl84 (or dl here (http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=150069))

It's an awesome classic imo and you don't really know who will win till the very end.

I wish I was that good.

Ellipsis
22-09-2010, 18:26:17
Yes, I watched that and yes, it's awesome. Dimaga's one of my favourites to watch.

Not really an RTS player myself; too slow and ponderous, so watching those players is almost better than playing.

Aredhran
02-11-2010, 08:51:13
For the Zerg fans, and the programming geeks out there, here's an interesting article

http://lbrandy.com/blog/2010/11/using-genetic-algorithms-to-find-starcraft-2-build-orders/

Fistandantilus
03-11-2010, 14:08:44
That's great :D
I work for a company called "Genetica" as we use a lot of genethic algorithm and neural network programming and my boss has always been a huge Sc fan, just forwarded the link to him :lol:

Funko
03-11-2010, 14:39:18
That is great. :beer:

Aredhran
16-11-2010, 13:15:09
Fist, does this mean you get to play SC2 @ work, pretending to develop genetic algorithms ? ;)