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Funko
23-07-2010, 15:53:38
Ok. This league is for players who want to be involved in Season 3 of Blood Bowl, but need to get some practice in first/create a slightly higher value team. I think it should be starter teams only. And for newbies only (plus Illi).

The league is here:

http://bloodbowldigital.com/index.php?option=com_bbql&view=league&leagueId=768

Follow the instructions in the Season 2 (http://www.counterglow.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44020) thread for creating your team.

I suggest before building and submitting your team you read carefully some of the guides for your chosen race (and maybe ask here for advice).

Links here to some very decent advice about starting builds and race strategy:

http://www.cyanide-studio.com/forumBB/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=15887

General principles (Exceptions apply):

1. Re-rolls, re-rolls, re-rolls. They are at least half price when you pick your team and vital in the game.
2. Apothecary is a luxury you can start without, your starter players are unskilled and therefore replaceable.
3. Cheerleaders, schmeerleaders. Only of use on one of the kick off results. You are better off saving the money to go towards an apothecary, more positional players later.
4. Elf Linesmen are already really good. You don't necessarily need positional players.
5. It's a rare good starting build that has more than 11 players in it.

Oh, and read the Living Rule Book 5.

http://www.bloodbowlonline.com/LivingRulebook5.pdf

Beta1
23-07-2010, 16:20:53
6. When you get your first level up - Ask someone else before you fix it. This can be the difference between an effective player and someone who just increased your TV for no benefit.

Funko
23-07-2010, 16:22:26
Yeah, good call. There will be differences of opinion but we'll all agree on bad choices.

MOBIUS
23-07-2010, 19:47:01
Yeah, never realised the rerolls were half price in advance...

In fact those first tips could also be entitled "guess what mobius did" :D

MDA
26-07-2010, 20:01:06
Am I right in assuming Classic LRB5 mode for the team creation?

Fistandantilus
26-07-2010, 20:34:22
You are.

MDA
27-07-2010, 00:21:19
Well, I think I'm going Chaos, although I considered Dwarves (no experience with them, even against AI) and Lizardmen (we have two already).

Fistandantilus
27-07-2010, 07:11:36
:vom:

illi
27-07-2010, 09:17:59
Some delay for me while I await Orcalogic 4MB RAM delivery and hope that my bro can open the back of the acer without breaking it, which it seemed I was going to be unable to do, so I didn't GFI.

MOBIUS
27-07-2010, 09:24:56
So I take it your bro is the equiv of a reroll…?;)

illi
27-07-2010, 09:33:04
:)

illi
02-08-2010, 16:35:41
Hey chaps, I tried out my new 'fast' computer in an online BB challenge, and it was the same infuriating story, with scaring my wife and having a thoroughly angermaking hour and a half. Didn't play too badly either, losing 2-1 to a slightly more pointful skaven team as 1000pt wood elves, but it could have been 4-1 and until I get a table (sideways sitting backcurl not good) and a desktop I'm going to give it a miss due to Traumatic stress. Was thinking Dwarves but now I could only regret passing up the challenge of getting the damn elves through a season alive!

On a happier note, I just read some of Paiktis on the other thread and am very impressed YES impressed by the poetry, inspiring! see you in a future league, wood elves natch. :gotit:

Funko
03-08-2010, 07:42:51
ok so the newbie league only has one player. :D

Greg W
03-08-2010, 09:17:42
Gimme a couple of months and I will see what I can do. But it won't happen for 2-3 months, and that's if everything goes to plan.

illi
03-08-2010, 09:58:46
When is good for you? I may have to be choosy so please send a few options - will play at me Mum's desktop :cool:

MDA
03-08-2010, 10:26:21
Well, I rolled a team, then drifted off somewhere. :lol:

MOBIUS
03-08-2010, 12:21:58
Hey chaps, I tried out my new 'fast' computer in an online BB challenge, and it was the same infuriating story, with scaring my wife and having a thoroughly angermaking hour and a half. Didn't play too badly either, losing 2-1 to a slightly more pointful skaven team as 1000pt wood elves, but it could have been 4-1 and until I get a table (sideways sitting backcurl not good) and a desktop I'm going to give it a miss due to Traumatic stress. Was thinking Dwarves but now I could only regret passing up the challenge of getting the damn elves through a season alive!

On a happier note, I just read some of Paiktis on the other thread and am very impressed YES impressed by the poetry, inspiring! see you in a future league, wood elves natch. :gotit:

:(

If you're free Monday evenings, I can play some games with you.

MDA
03-08-2010, 12:27:40
I rolled up a Chaos team, they should be pretty beatable with low skills and a short newbie season. Plus, I'll be running them and got beat by the AI last week.

MDA
03-08-2010, 20:53:26
So, DID I FUCKWIT THE WHOLE LEAGUE UP?

because it actually looks like it uploaded ok from here

I nothing else comes of it, at least I did that right.

and can also see everyone's name in the Hamachimajig, so that's good.

Beta1
04-08-2010, 09:30:28
I'm up for the occasional training game too - you name the opposition you want and I'll field it. (just not gobbos)

I'm away next week but I'm on holiday till the start of september so plenty of time to play.

Funko
04-08-2010, 09:44:38
Looks ok to me MDA.

illi
09-08-2010, 09:02:41
Will scout around on a free Monday evening for an occasional game, though will be moving flat on 9/11 - gives rise to downtime.

MOBIUS
09-08-2010, 09:33:10
I can play a game this evening if anyone fancies? I don't even mind playing as Gobbos...:D

MDA
09-08-2010, 11:38:53
I'm actually at work today, and have a late afternoon meeting to make it worse.

I've finally come to the conclusion that I've severely underestimated the value of mighty blow. It's fantastic. I injured or killed about nine players (against the AI) this weekend in a single game. Putting it on blitzers and a couple of lineman-type players is fun. Maybe not as smart as getting block/guard first, but fun.

MOBIUS
09-08-2010, 11:42:07
There is a school of thought that getting mighty blow first is a good course of action over the preferred block as a first skill, as your guy gets experience quicker through his increased CAS rate.

OMG, I've actually been paying attention to BB strategy!:lol:

Beta1
14-08-2010, 20:05:22
I'm back!

On the block/might blow argument - you are more likely to win your blocks with block. Mightblow is only usefull if you can win that block in the first place.

If your a ST4 player (saurus/chaos warrior/Black orc) then you are already going to be getting 2d blocks in most 1:1 fights, in this case mighty blow makes sense.

If your a STR3 player then unless you are suported most blocks will be 1d, block then makes it much more likely you will win that block.

On the other hand mighty blow is most usefull in attacking players - I tend to use my CWs as defensive players - they tie up a lot of opposition as most teams will have to gang up on them to get even a 1d block. 2 human players attacking a CW only get 1d, with block they then need a defender stumbles or defender down roll if I have block - 1/3 chance compared to 1/2 without block. I generally go block on 2 CWs, and guard on the ohter 2. the 4CWs supporting each other become very hard to crack. I tend to put mightblow on a BM often one that already has frenzy. With the horns skill they are going to be making most of the blitzes with frenzy theres a good chance of making lots of blocks.

Hell if your after cheap SPP take Pass and just lob the ball around!

Beta1
17-08-2010, 07:31:55
so anyone up for a game this week?

MDA
18-08-2010, 11:08:16
I was almost free for a game tonight/this afternoon. :(

Beta1
18-08-2010, 11:20:41
was? I'm free this evening (UK time). Probably tomorrow evening, could possibly play friday during the day if the mrs will let me.

MDA
18-08-2010, 12:05:21
Friday might work - looks like I'm 4 hours behind you in the summer and I finish up at 3pm.

Today/tonight we're going shopping.

Funko
18-08-2010, 12:22:11
We have summertime too so you are still 5 hours behind.

MDA
18-08-2010, 12:53:09
I thought that was a uniquely US farm industry thing, interesting.

Funko
18-08-2010, 13:23:02
Everywhere in Europe and many other places have it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/DaylightSaving-World-Subdivisions.png/370px-DaylightSaving-World-Subdivisions.png

Everywhere in blue has it, orange used to.

MOBIUS
18-08-2010, 13:24:50
Nah, you probably stole it from us, like everything else...:p

I could potentially be up for a daytime game of BB on Friday.

MDA
19-08-2010, 12:12:34
I'm done at 3pm here, so 8 pm or later UK time. Is there anything else I need to do other than have a team uploaded and the Hamachi client installed and connected?

Beta1
19-08-2010, 17:17:38
turns out I can't play friday during the day but should be OK friday night but would have to be about 9pm or later. Otherwise baby stops play is a real possibility.

Also as it wouldn't be a newbie league game you don't even have to upload a team - as long as you have it created on your computer the game will do the rest.

MDA
20-08-2010, 11:31:38
9 pm works fine for me, sounds good

Beta1
20-08-2010, 15:11:22
excellent. What race woul dyou like me to play - bearing in mind I'm pretty rubbish with dwarfs, gobbos or orcs.

MDA
20-08-2010, 15:23:10
Anything you like, really. I'll make a baby Chaos team since that was my original plan for newbie league.

I guess the smart answer would have been "dwarfs, gobbos, or orcs". :lol:

Beta1
20-08-2010, 21:32:44
1-0 to my dark elves

A good debut match from MDA - conceded a score early on due to a poor starting position but 2 good solid drives after that that I only just held off. The last one left me making dodge/1d blocks to stop the score.

MDA
20-08-2010, 22:51:25
I learned a lot just in the first half, enough to put up a decent show in the second anyway. The two man advantage might have helped just a bit. :beer:

I drowned my sorrow with come coconut chip ice cream. I'm pretty sure it was made by halflings.

Greg W
21-08-2010, 05:01:56
I drowned my sorrow with come coconut chip ice cream. I'm pretty sure it was made from halflings.Fixed! :beer:

MDA
21-08-2010, 23:13:58
They're magically delicious!

Beta1
31-08-2010, 07:19:33
Anyone up for a game this week?

Fistandantilus
11-09-2010, 20:39:20
To anyone interested there is a special offer on Steam this week end: 75% off the original price (so you can grab it for 7.50)

Beta1
12-09-2010, 17:47:37
says £4.25 now - buy it quick!

Nills Lagerbaak
13-09-2010, 09:23:12
have ordered this, should be able to play by end of week.