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Funko
15-07-2010, 08:51:02
Right.

So we're on the final gameweek of season 2! WOO!

Next up, Season 3! There were some people who expressed an interest in joining the league, but felt they couldn't play last season for various reasons. And I think we might have some dropouts.

What you need to do:

Existing Season 2 Players


Sign-up to say you are playing in this thread. Either with a brand new team or carrying on with your existing team. If it's a new team, follow the instructions for new players.
After your final game, make any final team changes, upgrades etc then download your team
Back-up your team to multiple locations. Once we close the season 2 league all teams will be deleted from the server.
Make sure you've downloaded your team. If you haven't downloaded your team they'll be lost for ever. (or at least the last updates from your most recent game anyway)
Make another post saying, "look, honestly I really have downloaded my team. I've attached it to this post to prove it."
Once everyone's done that I'll close season 2 league. (and probably archive all the stats). All the old teams will be deleted from Blood Bowl Digital.
Upload your team to new season 3 league.


New Players


Sign-up to say you are playing in this thread and what race you'd like to play.
Once we've got all the league entrants decided follow the instructions in the first post of the Season 2 thread (http://www.counterglow.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44020) about creating a new team, it should be a 1000 value, un-upgraded team.
Upload your new team to the season 3 league, once I've created it.

Fistandantilus
15-07-2010, 09:43:40
I will play carrying on with my existing team.

Forgive me for not making it in a second post as per instructions but look, honestly I really have downloaded my team. I've attached it to this post to prove it.

:p

Funko
15-07-2010, 10:22:36
:D

Funko
15-07-2010, 10:29:41
You don't really have to attach your team. But if you lost it, we would all point and laugh at you and call you a retard.

Funko
15-07-2010, 10:29:55
ie. If you lost it, we'd continue posting as normal.

MOBIUS
15-07-2010, 11:11:57
You know, I've been tinkering with Goblins Vs the PC and have been quite taken with the random chaotic nature of their games...:cute:

Funko
15-07-2010, 11:15:02
Well your initial build for your orcs was sub-optimal. :)

MOBIUS
15-07-2010, 11:18:57
But they're filling out quite nicely...:)

Or I could just fill my Orc team with Gobbos from now on? But I wouldn't get the secret weapons...:(

Fistandantilus
15-07-2010, 11:19:51
Yeah buy more goblins man! :lol:

MOBIUS
15-07-2010, 11:21:29
Well, I need something to feed my troll, after all...:D

Funko
15-07-2010, 11:27:14
BTW if you click on your troll you can edit his name.

Fistandantilus
15-07-2010, 11:30:00
Like Beta's Jim-Bob one :D

King_Ghidra
15-07-2010, 12:09:26
At the moment, I'm strongly considering a new team for next season. Probably Lizards.

Mobius, i would probably stick with orcs if i was you. Goblins vs the AI is one thing, goblins vs a human who knows how to exploit their weaknesses is quite another. Esp. vs. developed teams with plenty of Block.

Funko
15-07-2010, 12:24:07
Tau Ceti had said he fancied Lizzies, but not sure if he's around (and I don't mind having 2 lizzard teams anyway).

Illi was saying last night he might not rejoin for another season. He hasn't really enjoyed this one that much... so Wood Elves might be free again.

Funko
15-07-2010, 12:24:18
I forgot to say explicitly but I am in and will continue with the Ravens.

MOBIUS
15-07-2010, 13:51:20
BTW if you click on your troll you can edit his name.

I don't know, I quite like the idea of 'Troll #13'. Unlucky for whoever plays him...:D

Funko
15-07-2010, 13:52:16
:D It does summon the image of a troll production line somewhere.

MOBIUS
15-07-2010, 13:54:53
At the moment, I'm strongly considering a new team for next season. Probably Lizards.

Mobius, i would probably stick with orcs if i was you. Goblins vs the AI is one thing, goblins vs a human who knows how to exploit their weaknesses is quite another. Esp. vs. developed teams with plenty of Block.

As you may have already noticed, I don't particularly care whether I win or lose.:D

But I'll probably stick with my Orcs...:cute:

Funko
15-07-2010, 13:57:06
Speaking of names, I used a dark elf name generator I found online for mine. Did 50 suggestions or something and picked ones I liked, and that weren't too long... As it brought up 2 with the same surnames I decided I'd put them both in the team. In my mind they are brothers, the Phil and Gary Neville of the Ravens if you like.

But whilst Dacoral has gone from strength to strength Daso can't buy an SPP, despite me trying to manipulate things so he can. Daso is now pure line meat for the grinder. :(

MOBIUS
15-07-2010, 13:57:27
:D It does summon the image of a troll production line somewhere.

:D

Well, it's either that, or Timm Krumple, in honour of legendary Bengals NT Tim Krumrie...

Beta1
15-07-2010, 17:10:12
I'm in , same team.

Funko
18-07-2010, 16:33:35
The ravens!

Fistandantilus
18-07-2010, 19:49:20
Just as a reminder I'll be on vacation and unavailable to play in august so unless the league starts in these last couple of weeks of July you'll have to wait for me.. sry about that.

Funko
19-07-2010, 10:08:34
Let's see how it goes, a month off season wouldn't be a bad thing IMO.

King_Ghidra
21-07-2010, 09:38:38
A couple of questions:

1) I mentioned this to Funko but does anyone have any further ideas on any new players we might get for this season? I know Tau was interested but can we get hold of him to confirm? How about any other forumites or even poly scum or suchlike?

I think it would be a shame to go down to a small league again, and with apparently illi (and maybe the shaker?) not returning, we would be only 5.

2) How would people feel about me returning as the Greensox? They are currently at 1300TV. That would only rank them third or fourth tv by the start of the new season. As funko pointed out, woodies are likely to be available again, thus retaining racial balance, and this would also free up dwarves for any newbie who fancied joining with a very solid starter team.

And of course, they are in some sense still defending champions :) Anyway, if people are opposed, no problem.

Funko
21-07-2010, 10:19:23
I just posted a recruitment thread at the nerdy civ site. We'll see...

I'm not sure about the Greensox, how good did they get? ;)

One thought I had (and posted there) is that if we get enough NA players we could have a NA division, possibly with playoffs against the Europeans for the finals.

We could also do home and away games. And I think we should if we go down to 5.

Funko
21-07-2010, 10:20:28
Also PMed Tau.

MOBIUS
21-07-2010, 10:40:13
Just to say that I agree with all those suggestions/ideas.:beer:

I did email ‘Re-Phil’ about the new season, but no reply so far…

Fistandantilus
21-07-2010, 11:57:35
Killing elves is fun.

Funko
21-07-2010, 13:50:14
Snotty at Poly might be up for it. He's cool, used to post here intermittently. Currently has the x-box version that he's selling.

Beta1
21-07-2010, 16:09:06
home and away would be good. Happy to see the greensox back - more elves to splatter.

Funko
21-07-2010, 16:10:49
OK well I think that means all the people currently signed up for season 3 are happy for the Greensox to return (or are they just happy not to see that bloody deathroller?)

Greg W
21-07-2010, 16:13:22
I would play (after buying the game first and getting an idea how to play), but organising games would be problematic at best. :(

Tau Ceti
21-07-2010, 16:56:21
I am still interested in trying this, but would have to take a look at the calendar. This looks like it will start in September at the earliest? I can make a final decision closer to the start date. If I play, it would be as Lizardmen.

Funko
21-07-2010, 17:50:08
Yeah, I think realistically September when Fist comes back.

MOBIUS
21-07-2010, 21:45:16
I would play (after buying the game first and getting an idea how to play), but organising games would be problematic at best. :(

It's still probably doable if you were keen...

Also, there's nothing to stop us from starting before Fist gets back as it would only be whoever was playing him that would be affected. Might even give Greg a chance to get his first game out of the way...:D

Funko
22-07-2010, 07:59:33
I think I'd rather try and start when we can get a run of games in.

MOBIUS
22-07-2010, 09:13:30
Well, I'm quite keen to play some more games now that my apetite has been whetted.

Perhaps we can do a BB mini league while we wait for the others?

Funko
22-07-2010, 09:14:30
At our usual rate it could take half of August to get started anyway. :D

MOBIUS
22-07-2010, 09:19:59
Well, the offer’s there for my part. Was thinking about playing the Bengals again…:D

Greg W
22-07-2010, 14:12:01
It's still probably doable if you were keen...

Also, there's nothing to stop us from starting before Fist gets back as it would only be whoever was playing him that would be affected. Might even give Greg a chance to get his first game out of the way...:DThe time difference would make it very tough to do. I live in GMT+10. +9 with daylight savings at the moment, blows out to +11 when we have daylight savings. And I work late shifts. So your 8pm is my 5am-7am depending on what time of year it is. I don't wake up until 9-10am at the earliest as I don't go to sleep until 2am.

So, my times and yours (using GMT):
Wake up: 9am -/- midnight
Go to work: 12-3pm -/- 3-6am
Finish work: 10pm-12am -/- 1-3pm
Sleep: 2am -/- 5pm

Subtract 2 hours from your times when we hit daylight savings (October from memory).

So realistically unless you're willing to play games after midnight your time, or at 3pm your times, it's just going to be very difficult. Weekends are slightly easier, but I do try and pretend to have a life and see my partner, so those times might be limited too. It is slightly easier post October when my wake up time becomes 10pm your time. But by then I might be in the UK anyway. ;)

MDA
22-07-2010, 14:15:01
Think I'm 5 hours behind. I work at home 6:30 to 3pm on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday (usually), so it may be doable on more than just weekends.

Funko
22-07-2010, 14:19:39
If you are on Eastern Time that's GMT-5 yeah, so 3pm your time is 8pm Europe, which is the prime Blood Bowl play time!

MDA
22-07-2010, 14:21:46
Fresh meat for the grinder! Now I have to figure out who to coach.

Funko
22-07-2010, 14:22:43
:beer:

Funko
22-07-2010, 14:23:17
Right you're in! What race do you fancy?

Maybe you should give MOBIUS a trial game before the league starts.

MOBIUS
22-07-2010, 14:48:34
What he's trying to say is that I'm a bit shit...:D

But if you fancy some practice matches against a human player, I'm definitely up for it.:beer:

(Clearly I need them as well!):cute:

MOBIUS
22-07-2010, 14:52:42
The time difference would make it very tough to do. I live in GMT+10. +9 with daylight savings at the moment, blows out to +11 when we have daylight savings. And I work late shifts. So your 8pm is my 5am-7am depending on what time of year it is. I don't wake up until 9-10am at the earliest as I don't go to sleep until 2am.

So, my times and yours (using GMT):
Wake up: 9am -/- midnight
Go to work: 12-3pm -/- 3-6am
Finish work: 10pm-12am -/- 1-3pm
Sleep: 2am -/- 5pm

Subtract 2 hours from your times when we hit daylight savings (October from memory).

So realistically unless you're willing to play games after midnight your time, or at 3pm your times, it's just going to be very difficult. Weekends are slightly easier, but I do try and pretend to have a life and see my partner, so those times might be limited too. It is slightly easier post October when my wake up time becomes 10pm your time. But by then I might be in the UK anyway. ;)

None of that particularly presents a problem for me, with reasonable planning... ;)

Greg W
22-07-2010, 15:04:56
Quite possibly wouldn't bother KG either, seeing as to the best of my knowledge he's still officially jobless. I think it may cause some problems with the others though.

MOBIUS
22-07-2010, 15:17:36
True, but it means two less games to worry about finding the time for - though it would still be up to everyone else to see if there were mutually agreeable time slots available.

Where there's a will there's a way etc...;)

Funko
22-07-2010, 15:42:11
Would cause a problem for me unless we could arrange weekend games.

Greg W
22-07-2010, 15:58:22
Another issue would be the fact that I work 2 & 1/2 out of every 4 saturdays (50% 2x/50% 3x) and one out of every 4 sundays. Somewhat limiting my weekend availability. Having said that, I do have days off during the week.

It's not impossible per-se, but there could be periods where it could be 2-3 weeks before I could arrange a weekend game with someone. I could be wrong, but it just sounds difficult to me.

I'm also assuming there's no PBEM mode?

Funko
22-07-2010, 16:25:26
Sadly not. No. I do think it's not really possible.

Greg W
22-07-2010, 16:26:59
Yeah, that was my gut instinct too.

Beta1
22-07-2010, 21:55:50
heres the blockers

MOBIUS
23-07-2010, 11:35:48
:beer:

Greg W
23-07-2010, 14:51:43
Out of curiosity, I did buy the game, so maybe when I quit my job and become a jobless layabout, I may be able to organise something. :beer:

Funko
23-07-2010, 15:04:49
:beer:

MDA
23-07-2010, 15:13:40
:beer: maybe they'll release a drop bear race to play

In-laws dropping in for a surprise visit tonight and through the weekend, I'll still try to pick a team.

Fistandantilus
19-10-2010, 10:21:38
Legendary edition is coming out the 28th.
Anyone getting it? If so any chance to resume the league?

Funko
19-10-2010, 10:22:16
Yes, yes.

Funko
19-10-2010, 10:29:10
I was talking to K_G about this at the weekend. He suggested we look at hosting the league back on their servers again. Assuming they have overhauled the interface and options for that as promised.

Fistandantilus
19-10-2010, 11:47:38
Well the way they handled the 'special offer' is not promising :p

Funko
19-10-2010, 12:08:39
What went wrong with that? I was thinking of getting a DVD copy...

Fistandantilus
19-10-2010, 12:13:42
You can get the whole story on the official forums but to make a long story short they are selling it in € so US people are not really getting that 30% discount they hoped.

Funko
19-10-2010, 12:14:15
Just seen that thread... wow.

Anyone know what the pre-order with discount price is in Sterling?

the DVD pre-order is £17.99 at Play! Looks like it's around €32 for the digital version including the discount?!

Funko
19-10-2010, 12:14:28
http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/16586649/Blood-Bowl-Legendary-Edition/Product.html

Funko
19-10-2010, 12:15:12
Ordered that DVD version.

Fistandantilus
19-10-2010, 12:17:28
Yeah basically not buying directly from them is way cheaper.

Funko
19-10-2010, 12:20:19
Which is ludicrous.

Funko
19-10-2010, 12:20:40
If consistent, was the same with the first game's release.

Fistandantilus
19-10-2010, 12:31:54
Unfortunately I didn't notice back then :p

Funko
19-10-2010, 12:33:14
I got the download version before the DVD was released. Think it was download only for 2-3 months? So I just remember being annoyed when the DVD came out. :)

Fistandantilus
19-10-2010, 16:53:50
the DVD pre-order is £17.99 at Play! Looks like it's around €32 for the digital version including the discount?!

Just checked, digital version discounted at 30% is €27.99 which at the current change means £24.58.

So if you buy the digital download one you pay around 30% more than ordering it from play.com.

It seems some marketing guy at Cyanide has to learn the difference between addition and subtraction.

MDA
19-10-2010, 17:01:38
ooh, going to have to look into this

Funko
19-10-2010, 18:48:08
Just checked, digital version discounted at 30% is €27.99 which at the current change means £24.58.

So if you buy the digital download one you pay around 30% more than ordering it from play.com.

It seems some marketing guy at Cyanide has to learn the difference between addition and subtraction.

Amazon are selling it for the same price as the discounted download then.

Fistandantilus
20-10-2010, 06:27:33
Fair enough, so it's just play.com that made a great deal.

Besides after all the bitching and whining i preordered it from them :lol:

Funko
20-10-2010, 08:02:27
:lol:

Fistandantilus
20-10-2010, 16:53:27
Downloading it. Let's see how many crashes I'm able to collect.

Funko
20-10-2010, 18:01:29
I think you still can't play until 28th is that right?

Fistandantilus
20-10-2010, 20:56:45
You can. It's just in beta stage, they released a patch already and we have been told there will be another one before the general release but there is pretty much everything.

I'm looking into the league creation stuff
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1517/leaguecreation.jpg (sorry italian :p)
and it seems pretty complete altho I think it's not much different from what it was (never created a league myself so i dunno).

After the league is created the owner has the option to appoint commissioners who can confirm results, make players replay a game and such.
Other than that I haven't seen much, but my options are quite limited as it's a 1 player league :p

Oh, and everyone seems to be playing undead atm, pretty annoying :rolleyes:

Funko
21-10-2010, 09:35:46
being able to force a replay is new at least I think.

http://www.plasmoids.dk/bbowl/LRB6Stats.htm

Funko
21-10-2010, 09:38:01
Can we re-use old teams?

Fistandantilus
21-10-2010, 12:17:47
I tried loading up old teams in SP and it works.. it still uses old rules tho. For example in my wood elf team I have movement 9 catchers (and can buy those) instead of the 8 movement + sprint ones (as they are now).

Not sure how it works for online teams... I had to create a new account so I lost all mines.

Btw the faq answer a lot of questions:
http://www.cyanide-studio.com/forumBB/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17031

More stuff I noticed
- there is a history mode in SP which some kind of storytelling campaign in which you're supposed to become a legendary coach. You use different teams and have different (and sometimes odd) objectives everytime. In one game it was to throw two goblins during the match to progress :lol:
- lots of little things added: weather, bloodweiser babes, halfling cooks and so on, you'll be delighted to know you can now reroll the winning money dice. :p

AI is still bad bad despite what they say.
I played a quick match against vampires and the AI has no idea how to manage bloodlust. It fielded too many vampires at once and that resulted in a lot of early turnovers which let me decimate their team and make things even worse. By turn 6 they had no players on the pitch already and a bunch of vampires feeding their hunger in the stands.
Also never used hypnotoc gaze *once*. :(

Funko
21-10-2010, 13:03:53
you'll be delighted to know you can now reroll the winning money dice. :p

That didn't help me on blood bowl digital!

Funko
21-10-2010, 13:05:16
So... we'd need to start with new teams?

OMG Beta1 might cry.

King_Ghidra
21-10-2010, 13:29:12
btw i also have this and am playing it now. but fist has already said almost everything worth saying about it :P

played against khemri and nurgle teams online so far.

played a bit of undead offline.

the snow weather is very nice, not seen the others yet. the new stadiums are excellent.

Fistandantilus
21-10-2010, 14:44:49
I only had sweltering heat once, it's really annoying.

Funko
21-10-2010, 14:48:58
Mine should arrive this time next week. Think I'll be able to play that weekend possibly.

Funko
21-10-2010, 15:41:31
Oooh. I can be norse now.

Fistandantilus
21-10-2010, 17:48:26
I like Norse a lot too, block all around is very nice and you have access to ST4 players, yeee. I'm not a big fan of frenzy tho.

Knowing myself I'm probably not going to play teams without throwers or some MA 8 player :lol:

Beta1
21-10-2010, 20:09:55
So... we'd need to start with new teams?

OMG Beta1 might cry.

I would if I had time to.

Probably won't be able to join in this time around. Work is totally shit at the moment, been doing 50-60 hour weeks since the start of term. Doesn't look like it is going to get any easier, at least until I can find myself a new school.

Funko
22-10-2010, 07:42:27
:(

Fistandantilus
22-10-2010, 09:25:32
Played two games online last night. In the second one I lost half my team.
That Nurgle beast is a pain the arse.

Funko
22-10-2010, 11:32:50
I don't know what team to pick.

Fistandantilus
22-10-2010, 11:59:11
I have dibs on Necros cause that werevolf is quite clearly a skaven wannabe.

Funko
22-10-2010, 12:42:58
Narrowed it down I think

One of the Elf teams
Norse
Amazons
Vampires

Greg W
22-10-2010, 15:11:40
Just to let you know, in about 3 weeks (give or take) I should be suitably without a job for a while and thus should be able to participate in something. Even if it's only getting my arse kicked by all and sundry (or preferably the newbie league). :cute:

Funko
22-10-2010, 15:16:27
:beer:

Start a new thread about the job thing!

King_Ghidra
22-10-2010, 15:25:11
played 7 games with lizards so far: 4w-2d-1l, puts me temporarily in 12th spot in the rankings :cool:

along the way lost two skinks, two sauri and a krox (on a both down against a zombie...). fortunately when the team was at its lowest ebb, with only 7 permanent players available, fate handed me a 1st time halfling player, and after two turns smacking him off the pitch, he quit. next game, after breaking up a khemri player's opening possession and running off with the ball, he quit too. so now i have 10 perm players again and rebought the krox.

thusfar though its is 95% bashers, as fist said, mainly undead and khemri in my experience. seen very little else. it will change somewhat in time, but i think a matchmaking public league lends itself to bashers in the long-term. skill teams simply can't survive when every game is fouling bashers who don't really care if they win the match

lots of discussion about the leagues they have set up. apart from the main public league the others can only be entered with fresh teams and are matchmaking games only. they only vary in their spiralling expenses caps. so far so good. but the result is that it has split the playerbase and made it hard to get games in anything but the anything-goes public league.

King_Ghidra
22-10-2010, 15:37:48
I like Norse a lot too, block all around is very nice and you have access to ST4 players, yeee. I'm not a big fan of frenzy tho.


I really like the lrb5/6 norse. those str4 players make a huge difference, and the snow troll is nasty too. frenzy is brilliant when used right (surfing), but yeah it can get you into trouble too.

i suppose the only question mark is how much longevity is there in a team that expects to be in blocking range all match with only av7. my gut feeling is that in a standup fight with an orc or dwarf team, the norse get a nasty beating

Funko
22-10-2010, 16:10:54
And they are a good at Low TV, struggling at higher TV team I think.

High Elves or Pro Elves looking favourite for me at the moment. But Norse would be fun...

High Elves look to be the Human team I've always wanted...

Funko
22-10-2010, 16:16:50
I might go with DE again but sort of fancy a change.

Fistandantilus
22-10-2010, 16:51:01
The two games I played yesterday were with Pro Elves, as I fell in love with their catcher and wanted to try it. Nerves of steel + catch is awesome, you just throw a ball in his general direction and he's going to catch it. Plus it even has 3 ST so you can turn him into a ball extractor with wrestle/dodge later, a thing that with my beloved gutter runner is much more difficult (I usually have to get horn or dauntless for that purpose).

Blitzers with side step built in are also very nice.

The problem is that AV7 on the whole team. In the second game i played yesterday I lost a couple of linemen against Nurgle early on and it went into a giant snowball effect where you're outnumbered so get surrounded and lose more and more players as the game goes on. I eventually cancelled the team as I had only 5 players left on my roster after that game.

King_Ghidra
22-10-2010, 16:52:04
i'm playing high elves in a fumbbl league atm, i like them. they are very similar in many ways - ag4 av8 is nice ofc. but the str 3 ma8 catchers are really nice. i think between de and he you trade some hitting power for the potential to move the ball across the pitch very quickly.

pro elves...i don't know. nerves of steel on the catchers is nice in certain situations in theory, as is side step on the blitzers, but i think if you looked at those skills and said 'at what point would i take these on a similar player from another elf race as a skillup' the answer might be 'if no better option, or never'

Fistandantilus
22-10-2010, 16:52:22
That said I had lot of fun with them, one of the best scoring team ever. And I like scoring :D

King_Ghidra
22-10-2010, 17:02:58
fist i think as you know well from your skaven, the av7 snowball can define the whole match if you get cas against you early. i've certainly lost count of the prayers i've offered in those first few turns.

fun thing i did versus khemri, put my three journeyman skinks on the LoS versus three mummies. the mummies got 3d blocks, but without block or tackle versus the skinks' dodge, and as they didn't get any pows, they could only push them around. meanwhile my sauri were able to run wild against the rest of his players. that was pretty much what drove him to quit. how i laughed.

Fistandantilus
22-10-2010, 18:02:19
fist i think as you know well from your skaven, the av7 snowball can define the whole match if you get cas against you early. i've certainly lost count of the prayers i've offered in those first few turns.

Yeah, I know. The bigger problem is it can define the rest of your tourny/league too..

Just saying pro elves are a lot of fun, but I agree high elves are probably better and more balanced for league play thanks to their higher survivability.

Fun story about the Khemri player :D they love their tomb guardians sooo much but when they fail to dish out punishment they are in big trouble. Very one dimensional race imo.

King_Ghidra
22-10-2010, 20:47:17
yeah agreed, and they were even worse in lrb4 where you had 4 proper mummies with mighty blow and regen. i know lots of people flat out refuse to play them on fumbbl, as not only can they be team destroyers, but winning or losing against them is purely dictated by armour and injury rolls and barely by skill

btw on the av7 front, amazons are an interesting look. sacrifice the ag and mobility of elves, but gain unprecedented survivability via universal dodge and the ability to so easily develop blodgers. even well developed teams struggle to get enough tackle to negate that advantage. i think they are really competitive, and arguably the non-inclusion of chaos dwarves makes them relatively more so in cyanide's game. imagine the skink story above but applied to every single one of your players and versus almost any bashing team other than dwarves. pure frustration for the opponent. the blitzers can pick up guard on normals too!

Funko
25-10-2010, 07:49:58
I took side step 2nd on one of my dark elf blitzers. It's a fantastic skill to put on potential cage breakers. A blodger with side step is a pain in the arse. I'm sure it'd be very useful at low TV as well.

It's nice to have some options for agility teams. Will be interesting to see what kind of bashy/agile mix we get with a much bigger choice.

Fistandantilus
25-10-2010, 14:43:57
Side step is the second best agility skill (after dodge) imho. Never get pushed into another TZ (for extra blocks) or into the crowd again, de facto negating frenzy, messing up with opponent crowd surfing, effectively marking receivers/ball carriers and so on.

Got totally outplayed against vampires during the week-end to end a streak of 4 wins in a row with my amazons. In the hands of a competent player they are scary.

King_Ghidra
25-10-2010, 14:50:45
i think there are still some bugs with bloodlust at the moment, but not sure if they favour or hinder the vamps

my lizards are 5w 3d 1l at the moment i think. they hover between just outside the top 10 and elsewhere in the top 50. at one point i had the top cas causer in the auld league and one of the top stars.

sadly at the moment, matches where you fail to connect are coming up as dc's which means the more i play the more it happens and the worse my reliability is looking, and it's putting me off a bit

story mode in single player is quite fun, BB is perfectly suited to challenge scenarios, and given how shit the ai is, its about as challenging as SP will get

Funko
25-10-2010, 16:20:43
Just looking at some of the LRB6 changes. The upgrade to safe throw and diving catch are interesting.

Fistandantilus
25-10-2010, 19:51:09
The best LRB6 changes are the gobbos ones, bribes for 50k apiece yeeeee :D

Funko
29-10-2010, 11:28:47
Just been posted. I won't get it until Monday I guess.

King_Ghidra
31-10-2010, 11:12:12
I've just finished my 10th game with my dwarves in the Naggaroth League and they've got the same record my lizzies do - 5w 3d 2l

In Naggaroth the team variety has been a bit better surprisingly, despite the fact it is a blind MM-only league. I've played amazons, dwarves, elves, khemri, necro x2, norse, nurgle, undead, vampires

Generally good fun, some skilled opponents, and some nice people to chat with too. The amazon player was really good - despite the bad skill matchup versus dwarves they made a real fist of it and used their guard players extremely well. i sneaked a 2-1 to save face thankfully.

My runner should be 2nd in the hall of fame for yds rushed but i think it only culls players from the top 100 ranked teams and the Frostbeards are a little way off that at 184th.

MDA
01-11-2010, 11:33:39
This just popped up in my steam advertisements for 40 bucks US, and in an email from Cyanide or something. I'll probably pick it up soon, the new teams look interesting.

King_Ghidra
02-11-2010, 00:53:20
Just had probably the most amazing finish to a match i've ever managed. me as wood elves vs opponent as high elves and he levels the match at 1-1 leaving me only the last turn of the match. I have a vague idea of how to do a one-turner so i set-up to give myself some kind of a chance for one of my wardancers to make the score, but i have no rerolls left so little optimism.

The kick falls nicely and then even better i get quick snap! and push my players into better positions. opponent starts chatting, and stupidly i respond, forgetting we are on 2 minute turns. the clock is ticking fast and i hurriedly start making blocks. 2nd block, my treeman gets a pow and causes a cas (earning his 6th spp in the process) and i get my first push on my wardancer.

the last block is a real logic problem and i lose more time thinking about it. then i make my mind up and move, having to dodge into a tz and then blitz. i make the dodge and then get the final push i need on the block.

now all i need is a pickup by one wardancer, a cross-field throw to the other one, catch, and two gfi's to the endzone. then i see there is only 10 seconds on the clock. shit!!!!

I click like a nutter, make the pickup, move a couple of squares closer, get a 4+ pass off with two seconds left - then the game pauses as he selects a player to intercept and i quickly pre-select the wardancer. the pass is made, the catch is made, i click on the endzone in frenzy seeing 1 second on the clock, the wd sets off and...

SCORE!!!!!


FUCKING YES

best finish ever - in fact the first one turner i've ever managed. wood elves are insane. this was my first game with them online after about 14 games with my dwarves and it was a nice reminder why they are fun. :) even better, the scoring dancer got mvp, meaning both dancers and the tree all levelled up after the game :lol:

Funko
02-11-2010, 11:09:50
My copy is here. WOO!

King_Ghidra
02-11-2010, 15:22:33
The best LRB6 changes are the gobbos ones, bribes for 50k apiece yeeeee :D


Just played a game online with goblins, my first with them on new rules. Definitely agree they have had some upgrades. The pogoer not being a secret weapon any more is definitely one of them, that is really great.

2-1 defeat to Dark Elves after taking a 1-0 lead, but full of Goblin hilarity:

- Chainsaw had only one turn on the pitch but BH a witch elf
- Bombardier got double skulls and blew himself into the BH box on his first turn.
- Troll got double skulls and ate a goblin during a throw team mate attempt

There was a series of play in which the chat box contained only "lol" six times in a row from my opponent and I. :D it was exactly what i was hoping for!

Funko
02-11-2010, 16:01:30
2-1 defeat with unskilled Gobboes vs Dark Elves is a great result IMO.

King_Ghidra
03-11-2010, 01:12:52
i was pleased, but i think gobbos have their best chance at low tv's versus other unskilled teams. The secret weapons are probably balanced to be effective even against somewhat more impressive teams, so they can wreak havoc at low levels. Chainsaw is just insane.

I managed a 1-1 draw vs wood elves later.


Changing tack, I've not had any problems with dropped connections during matches, (aside from people who have obviously used it as a method of quitting), but connecting to start the match seems a real lottery still. Can take ages to actually get a match working, even though the MM normally finds opponents very quickly. More often than not it ends in a failed connection. :(

Fistandantilus
03-11-2010, 14:05:14
i was pleased, but i think gobbos have their best chance at low tv's versus other unskilled teams. The secret weapons are probably balanced to be effective even against somewhat more impressive teams, so they can wreak havoc at low levels. Chainsaw is just insane.


It's really a hit and miss team imho.
I mean a unit like the bombardier (altho ineffective against agile teams as they more often than not just catch the bomb and throw it back at you..) is the ultimate cage breaker.
Sometimes really dominates and wins the game alone, sometimes fumbles and dies soooo quickly.
Unreliable team but can win (or lose) against anyone.

Haven't had time to play much last week as work ate up my free time, still have to play a mm game post patch. Didn't have that many net issues so far tho.

Funko
10-11-2010, 16:32:44
I went to install this yesterday and the computer wouldn't start. :(

Fistandantilus
10-11-2010, 16:42:40
The whole pc? Or just the game?

Funko
10-11-2010, 16:53:44
The whole machine. I never managed to get as far as installing it.

Beta1
10-11-2010, 18:03:46
oh dear, still a dead PC is a good excuse for an upgrade!

Funko
11-11-2010, 08:56:06
See technical forum. :)

Funko
11-11-2010, 08:57:19
Ah, you already did.

Funko
19-12-2010, 12:21:38
Right, found time to take my computer apart, wiggle the bits around, and it's back up and running again. Just installed the game.

Fistandantilus
19-12-2010, 13:32:34
About time :p

Funko
20-12-2010, 08:50:52
Played one game as Elves vs Mummies. Finished 2-2 due to the computer's ineptness, he should have murdered me. Levelled up a catcher on a double and he got block.

I like Elves though, think I might go for them.

MOBIUS
17-01-2011, 14:18:41
So, we doing another league or what?

Funko
17-01-2011, 16:02:37
Yes

MOBIUS
08-02-2011, 15:10:46
Next century?

Funko
08-02-2011, 15:17:12
My computer is still at my parents, a new one will be ordered soon...

I'm up for it, and well up for starting to organise, but it's going to be next month before I can play.

Funko
13-02-2011, 17:36:43
Just installing this on my new machine!

Funko
13-02-2011, 17:47:28
OMG it actually loads in seconds.

maroule
14-02-2011, 14:09:30
I'm considering a return to the game (not the league though, don't have time)

has the AI been modified/improved with the new versions?
It was frustrating to me; too easy against the AI, too tough against humans who played regularly

Fistandantilus
15-02-2011, 13:30:12
Improved but still no match for humans imo.

Funko
17-02-2011, 08:59:14
too tough against humans who played regularly

That's why the CG league is good, a lot of us don't play regularly.

Funko
17-02-2011, 08:59:43
Those criticisms also stand for almost all strategy games.

King_Ghidra
18-02-2011, 15:43:49
Yeah but the BB AI is awful.

I've been playing in the Orca-Cola League lately, just finished my first season, their 7th. Played as Lizards and went W3-D3-L3. It's a really nice league with something like 300 coaches total and lots of chat, lore, stats and stuff.

Season 8 is just about to start, so the next one will be in three months' time, applications are always ongoing i think.

http://www.orca-cola.com/forum/

http://www.orca-cola.com/gzt/ - The gazette, a 'magazine' for the league.

Fistandantilus
28-03-2011, 11:59:34
Friend of mines just picked this up at bargain price.
Maybe I could ask him join the league, I'm assuming we're just awaiting for Funko's son to sign up so there is still a bit of time left.

Funko
28-03-2011, 12:08:52
If someone other than me drives this, it might happen.

I can play but organising will be a struggle. And yes, ask your friend. As long as he's shit.

MDA
09-04-2011, 00:37:45
just noticed the Legendary edition is up for 9.99 US this weekend, on Steam