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jsorense
11-06-2010, 20:42:40
O.K. wiseguys and wisegals. The perfessor and I are ready to join the 21st Century. We are in the market for the new-fangled smartphone thingies. Which is the best: iPhone, BlackBerry, or Droid?
And please, no comments about my old eyesight, arthritic fingers, diminished mental capacity, diapers, drool, . . . . . . What was I saying? Who are you freaks? Why isn't Keith here? Where do I live? :confused::confused::mr_b:

Sir Penguin
14-06-2010, 04:33:34
I've heard the Droid is okay.

SP

Asher
14-06-2010, 05:37:55
It depends

If you just want to type emails/IMs mostly, Blackberry
If you want something that 'just works' with the caveat that you're at the mercy of Steve Jobs' every command: iPhone
If you want a phone that lets you do anything but is a bit more techy, an Android (Droid or Incredible or Nexus One are the ways to go here)

Funko
14-06-2010, 08:06:51
^ best answer.

Drekkus
14-06-2010, 18:57:13
HTC Desire is a very nice phone. Nexus One but with a more user friendly (less techy) UI.

http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/htc-desire-now-in-usa-3g

jsorense
15-06-2010, 02:09:37
Thank all of you for you reviews.
Now it is an issue of user plans. :rolleyes:

MDA
15-06-2010, 11:22:00
Just upgraded to an LG GR500 after about 5 years with and older one. Now if I only kept it charged and carried it.

I dutifully call my mother from it once a week.

jsorense
15-06-2010, 14:20:18
Good boy.

jsorense
15-06-2010, 18:08:24
I've heard the Droid is okay.
SP
Thanks for nuthin', SP. As usual.:bash::rolleyes:

Beta1
15-06-2010, 19:25:06
It depends if they are the droids you are looking for...

jsorense
15-06-2010, 21:51:08
:nerd:

Sir Penguin
18-06-2010, 05:12:20
A real man would buy a Nexus One, which is why I didn't suggest it.

SP

Fistandantilus
18-06-2010, 06:16:43
:lol:

Asher
18-06-2010, 14:15:23
I got two Nexus Ones for free. One for attending a Google conference where everyone got one, the other one for having one of the most popular applications in Canada with a rating above 4 stars.

Drekkus
29-06-2010, 21:08:52
what application is that?

Scabrous Birdseed
29-06-2010, 21:51:35
I've been thinking of getting a Legend as well, just because EVERYONE and their grandmother has one of those fucking Iphones, but I'm baulking at paying 30% more for a phone than I did for my last computer. Is it really the best value-for-money option? I hear the Hero has slowdown issues.

Asher
30-06-2010, 04:01:57
what application is that?

It's only available in Canada (and only relevant for Canada)

http://mobile.yp.ca/applications/android.html

Asher
01-07-2010, 01:34:33
iPhone 4 vs HTC Evo 4G...NSFW audio. But hilarious.

http://www.break.com/index/iphone-4-vs-htc-evo.html

MOBIUS
02-07-2010, 10:07:54
:lol:

I'm desperately trying to resist the temptation of buying the new iPhone and the best alternative seems to be the new Samsung Galaxy S, which seems to be getting rave reviews...

Should I get it or not, and is there something even bigger and more amazing coming round the corner, seeing as I'll be stuck with it for a while...?

Drekkus
08-07-2010, 11:44:54
there's always something bigger and more amazing around the corner, so you can wait a lifetime for better stuff. I read good things about the Galaxy S, and I think Android will be bigger then the iPhone eventually.

Funko
08-07-2010, 12:16:21
I think I'm going to get the Galaxy S.

Fistandantilus
08-07-2010, 12:28:11
It pisses me off it does not have a flash on the camera, then again it depends on the use you make of it.

Funko
08-07-2010, 12:37:16
Yes, that's the only thing holding me back.

Funko
08-07-2010, 12:43:18
Hmm. Apparently I can upgrade now if I want.

18 months, £40 a month, free handset more calls, texts etc. than I could ever use.

Can get the same plan on an iPhone 4 but have to pay £119 for the handset.

Debaser
08-07-2010, 13:14:52
Get the iPhone.

Remember, if it looks better then it probably is better.

Funko
08-07-2010, 13:28:24
:lol:

But everyone's got an iPhone now, they are a bit boring. Plus I prefer the more open app concept on Android.

MOBIUS
08-07-2010, 14:04:08
As coincidence would have it, I bought the Galaxy last night and it should be coming online tonight at some pointÖ

From my research the Galaxy seems as good as, if not better than the iPhone 4 virtually across the board.

For good comparisons etc: http://www.careace.net/2010/06/08/comparison-of-iphone-4-vs-samsung-wave-and-samsung-galaxy-s/

Basically, as far as I can tell, itís a question of style over substance.

Debaser
08-07-2010, 14:45:08
That comparison page is useless. For a start it's on Samsung forum, so of course it's going to favorably compare the Samsung phone (even though some of their stats indicate the opposite). Then there are the many examples of pure advertising bullshit rhetoric:

"Sound: Both have standard 3.5mm headphone jack, play mp3s and alert via vibration. However, iPhone 4 does not have DNSe (Digital Natural Sound Engine) as Samsung Wave has."

Er, of course it doesn't because DNSe is a term Samsung made up, it's meaningless.

Then there are the bits that don't even make sense:

"Video Calling: Both are able to preform the task; however, iPhone 4 is WiFi only whereas Samsung Wave can do this with apps that may appear in the future."

What?

Funko
08-07-2010, 14:46:28
Yeah, other than the camera flash it does seem to kill the iPhone on features.

Even though I mostly listen to MP3s I do find the radio on my current phone is quite nice to have so that's a bonus too.

Pro: Cheaper, bigger screen, more features, better app philosophy, radio, longer standby, Flash, pretty much every video encoding etc.
Con: No flash

Camera flash... So it has Flash bit no flash. :lol: Urgh.

Funko
08-07-2010, 14:47:50
X-Post. I've been comparing them on other review sites that aren't pro-Samsung.

MOBIUS
08-07-2010, 15:13:50
That comparison page is useless. For a start it's on Samsung forum, so of course it's going to favorably compare the Samsung phone (even though some of their stats indicate the opposite). Then there are the many examples of pure advertising bullshit rhetoric:

D'oh, didn't spot that - but it does link to non pro Samsung sites as well...:o

Also, every other review site Iíve looked at compares the Galaxy favourably over the iP4.

I agree that not putting a flash on the camera seems an odd oversight, but for me itís the functionality of the phone as a smartphone thatís of more importance and Iíve always found myself disappointed in phone camera performance to date as it isÖ

Funko
08-07-2010, 15:15:50
Hmm. I think generally the reviews are quite mixed, I would say 50/50 in favour of each one depending on the priorities of the reviewer.

MOBIUS
08-07-2010, 15:59:47
OK, WRT my priorities...;)

Immortal Wombat
08-07-2010, 16:57:26
there's always something bigger and more amazing around the corner, so you can wait a lifetime for better stuff.
That's what I'm doing. It's saving me a fortune. :D

Asher
08-07-2010, 17:36:36
"Video Calling: Both are able to preform the task; however, iPhone 4 is WiFi only whereas Samsung Wave can do this with apps that may appear in the future."

What?

iPhone 4's FaceTime video calling can only be used on WiFi, not 3G.

Android video calling apps have no such restriction.

Asher
08-07-2010, 17:40:36
There's errors in the link comparing iphone and the galaxy, BTW.

The iPhone 4 does not have a 1GHz Cortex A8 CPU, it's an 800MHz Cortex A8.
The Galaxy S does not have a 1GHz Cortex A8 CPU, it's a 1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon CPU.

Funko
09-07-2010, 08:05:59
Really? If it's really wrong I've read it in a lot of places. The iPhone4 processor being the 1GHz A8 I mean.

Debaser
09-07-2010, 10:41:28
They seem to think it's 1GHz here: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4-Teardown/3130/2

Funko
09-07-2010, 11:21:14
That says the iPad is clocked at 1 GHz, not how fast the iPhone one is clocked though.

Funko
09-07-2010, 11:22:45
Also. That site is arguably the most gratuitous example of nerd porn I've ever seen. :beer:

Sir Penguin
09-07-2010, 22:35:52
The iPhone 4's CPU is the same as the 1 GHz chip in the iPad, but it's clocked at around 800 MHz to reduce power consumption.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2010/06/iphone-4.ars/8

SP

Asher
10-07-2010, 03:11:29
SP is, of course and as always, correct. Which means that I am, of course and as always, correct.

Asher
10-07-2010, 03:21:36
Really? If it's really wrong I've read it in a lot of places. The iPhone4 processor being the 1GHz A8 I mean.
To confirm, Apple announced it has the same "A4" chip as the iPad which was 1GHz. But they intentionally didn't say the speed in announcing the iPhone 4. It's since been uncovered it runs at 800MHz due to power/heat constraints.

The whole "A4" chip branding thing is silly anyway. The "A4" chip is just a Cortex A8 CPU with another off-the-shelf graphics chip and some minor power saving tweaks.

Funko
12-07-2010, 07:45:56
Have you played with the Galaxy S Asher?

Lurker
12-07-2010, 19:27:47
Who's he?

Asher
14-07-2010, 16:05:00
Nope

Funko
14-07-2010, 16:06:09
As coincidence would have it, I bought the Galaxy last night and it should be coming online tonight at some pointÖ

From my research the Galaxy seems as good as, if not better than the iPhone 4 virtually across the board.

For good comparisons etc: http://www.careace.net/2010/06/08/comparison-of-iphone-4-vs-samsung-wave-and-samsung-galaxy-s/

Basically, as far as I can tell, itís a question of style over substance.

I'm pretty sure this is what I'm going to get. How you getting on with it?

Asher
14-07-2010, 17:30:48
The only thing I can say about Samsung phones is they've proven to be very, very slow in getting new Android OS upgrades.

MOBIUS
15-07-2010, 11:44:34
I'm pretty sure this is what I'm going to get. How you getting on with it?

OK I guess, though I haven't properly sat down with it to sort everything out as I've been too busy...

So, there's a couple of issues, like the signal seems to fluctuate wildly at the moment and the battery draws down really quickly during use so far.

The first I haven't addressed yet, though hasn't been a massive problem and the second I've been told improves after the first few total discharge and recharges of the battery. Supposedly.

There's probably apps for these issues etc. I'm just being my usual lazy self...:p

Funko
15-07-2010, 12:42:30
You need the Android Advanced Task Killer app. Free download. You can also go into the battery use in the config to see which apps are causing the drainage.

Funko
15-07-2010, 12:59:09
This guy is a pretty good reviewer. Facts without opinions.

iPhone4 vs Galaxy S

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0BMBiYEKVE&feature=related

Galaxy S vs Droid Incredible (which we can't get, but jsorense can)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4MJ5eVgN5k&feature=related

Funko
15-07-2010, 13:05:03
They are all so similar, not sure why the iPhone really warrants costing £120 more. And it doesn't do anything the others don't do these days. Unlike when the first iPhones came out.

MOBIUS
15-07-2010, 14:20:35
App downloaded, thanks!:beer:

I knew something like that existed, but I couldn't be bothered to actually look for it myself...

Funko
15-07-2010, 14:49:17
My research has been thorough. :)

Funko
15-07-2010, 14:49:55
Also check out Camera Zoom FX.

http://www.androidslide.com/camerazoom

MOBIUS
15-07-2010, 15:03:13
Cool, let me know anything else you reckon I need...:D

Fistandantilus
15-07-2010, 16:26:26
This guy is a pretty good reviewer. Facts without opinions.


:beer: Pretty cool informative stuff. Tx.

King_Ghidra
15-07-2010, 17:02:33
Galaxy S Asher

Android Advanced Task Killer



Galaxy S vs Droid Incredible


I feel like i'm in Japanese robot cartoon.

Asher
15-07-2010, 18:16:38
That's why Android rules

Funko
16-07-2010, 08:44:15
I feel like i'm in Japanese robot cartoon.

:lol: :beer:

Funko
19-07-2010, 10:06:03
Google SkyMap is a pretty cool free app. It uses geolocation and the internal compass to work out which way you are facing to show you a map of the stars in the sky where you are right now, you can move it around to see the different constellations, planets, galaxies etc.

Funko
19-07-2010, 11:41:41
Google Goggles also looks good, you take pictures of something and it tries to work out what it is. It tries to recognise Text, Landmarks, Books, Contact info, Artwork, Places, Wine, Logos. Think I'll be getting that, if only for the wine!

Fistandantilus
19-07-2010, 12:04:37
Are smartphones good at tasting wine?

Funko
19-07-2010, 12:17:09
I'm not wasting any on it to find out.

Asher
19-07-2010, 13:18:02
There's some phenomenal wine apps for iPhone. Probably Android too.

Funko
19-07-2010, 16:02:19
Drync looks very good. http://drync.com/blog/

Any recommendations?

Asher
19-07-2010, 16:55:18
I have Drync on the iPhone and like it. Also have Wine PhD which is blah.

Funko
19-07-2010, 17:19:47
Mobius, get the dolphin browser. Also look for tricorder.

Funko
19-07-2010, 18:30:15
Photoshop app FTW, amazing and so quick and free.

MOBIUS
19-07-2010, 19:52:30
So did you take the plunge and get one then...?:)

Funko
20-07-2010, 06:28:36
Yep!!

Funko
20-07-2010, 07:56:28
It is really very good. But I was coming from a Nokia 5800, this is a different league entirely.

MOBIUS
20-07-2010, 11:59:00
And I was coming from a 5 year old Samsung D900!:lol:

I virtually had to be shown how to use a phone all over again. I felt like a freak.