View Full Version : Are childless persons losers?

04-06-2010, 22:32:53
I've seen plenty of losers that have children.
Are childless persons losers though?
I don't mean if it's biological.
What does it mean?
A parent hugely defines the life of its offspring. It has got tremendous power.

Then studies show that lonely people are unhappy but couples without children are as content as couples with children.

It is easy to have a child. It is difficult to be a good parent.

And I'm thinking, if your parent was not good to you, don't you risk very much to repeat the same cycle?
Some people say, if you had a bad parent you'd become a good parent. But that's not the case always, far from it.

Isn't it more honest to not have a child if you think he/she'll suffer through your shortcomings? Isn't it maybe the most responsible thing to do?

Or is this a resignation, an easy way out, a defeat?

Lazarus and the Gimp
04-06-2010, 22:39:30
It helps if you don't think of them as children, but as minions.

05-06-2010, 04:16:47
I'm childless, and I'm a loser. So the answer is Yes.

05-06-2010, 06:13:06
I have two children and I'm a loser so the answer is yes and no.

05-06-2010, 07:20:26
I have one child and am therefore only half as much a loser as vincent.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
05-06-2010, 09:05:25
If you define yourself through having children or not, you better stay childless.

05-06-2010, 09:33:28
If you have to define yourself you're a loser

05-06-2010, 09:53:03
Capital L !!!!

05-06-2010, 10:17:53
I have an O's cap therefore I am a Loser

05-06-2010, 15:51:50

Dyl Ulenspiegel
05-06-2010, 17:34:11
In that case, I'd say LOSER.

05-06-2010, 19:21:50
If you have a child but you aren't aware of it's existence, does that make you a loser or a winner?

07-06-2010, 07:58:10
Schroedinger's child.

07-06-2010, 08:08:50
I like "Schrödinges Bastard" better

07-06-2010, 08:09:30
So you know them both?

Dyl Ulenspiegel
07-06-2010, 09:34:14
That's all relative.

07-06-2010, 12:12:58
That's all relative.

Schroedinger's child.
To verify if it's true you have one, you have to kill him.

07-06-2010, 12:17:30
so, you're one of those glass half empty people?

07-06-2010, 12:22:57
I have cursed my parents for giving me a happy childhood. The burden of trying to make my kids happy is just too much. Thankfully spoiling them makes them happy. Just not good persons.

07-06-2010, 12:23:06
No, I'm a "glass unnecessarily big" engineer

Dyl Ulenspiegel
07-06-2010, 13:07:13

Thanks for making a bad pun worse.

08-06-2010, 07:32:37
I have cursed my parents for giving me a happy childhood. The burden of trying to make my kids happy is just too much. Thankfully spoiling them makes them happy. Just not good persons.

very true
not bad persons, just unhappy at not getting their way systematically

the answer to the first post is; your own childhood is not the biggest parameter (it can indeed go both ways), I find you'll be a good enough parent if you actually want to have a child AND understand the huge fucking time and energy you'll take from your own free time to devote to him/her/them

(that's a long, ugly sentence but you get the drift.)

love + enough time = good enough parent
the rest is nice to have but less critical (esp considering you will fuck up daily however hard you try)

08-06-2010, 07:50:43
I think Paiktis is the kind of guy who fathers a few children at the age of 50 with a nice 28 year old girl.

08-06-2010, 14:23:44
I would like that to be a little bit sooner

08-06-2010, 14:24:12
Don't be in a rush to get to 50!

08-06-2010, 14:25:52
(it would be a surprise if i make it that long :) let's hope)