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maroule
01-06-2010, 15:55:21
any comments?

I can't say I've followed it too closely, but the journos here are wondering why Heskey and not Bent, and why no Walcott

Funko
01-06-2010, 15:59:28
Pretty much exactly what I expected, I had Walcott in and Carrick out but thought they might take Carrick as cover for Barry at the expense of someone else...

Wright-Phillips and Lennon both looked much more effective than Walcott in warm up games. Theo kept giving the ball away, making passes and runs at the wrong times. I think he's unlucky.

Rooney last 10 games with Heskey : 9 goals
Rooney last 10 games without Heskey : 2 goals

Bent has never done anything for England. Leaving him doesn't surprise me at all. I think plan B is Rooney with Joe Cole or Gerrard playing just behind, or Crouch.

Fistandantilus
01-06-2010, 18:48:25
It's a very good team, but in the end you'll manage to fuck everything up as usual :p

Funko
02-06-2010, 07:55:04
Yep.

To be fair there are quite a lot of countries with very strong teams and most of them will fuck it up too. :)

MOBIUS
02-06-2010, 09:33:54
In fact, using my crystal ball I can tell you with 100% certainty that all but one team will fuck it up!:)

The only problem is figuring out which one...:(

So, England exit at the Quarter Finals...?

maroule
02-06-2010, 12:53:08
In fact, using my crystal ball I can tell you with 100% certainty that all but one team will fuck it up!:)



fuck up is in the eye of the beholder
only countries with a noisy and utterly nut sport press will entertain unreasonable expectations and therefore "fuck up" (England being the prime candidate). Others are forced to win by pedigre alone (Brazil) and are also good candidates for a fuck up.

If the australians pass the first round, they won't fuck up, if the north koreans can kick a south korean in the balls, they won't fuck up, etc.

In France, expectations are really low right now, and the hatred of Domenech is so fierce that a good half of the population hopes for a very public humiliation... a major retailer has an offer of a flat screen TV they will reimburse you if France wins the WC...

Funko
02-06-2010, 12:58:29
In my view England QF appearance is the minimum we should expect. We have an easy group followed by a very winnable tie against whoever comes 2nd to Germany.

Anything above that depends who we're playing, all teams QF onwards will be very good, and having a bit of luck on the day.

Funko
02-06-2010, 13:45:16
Oldest squad ever.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/02/england-oldest-world-cup-squad

The average age of 28.7 years pips the previous record of 28.4 established in 1954, a side boosted by the sprightly 39-year-old Stanley Matthews. More significantly it is nearly three-and-a-half years higher than the average age of the World Cup squad four years ago, suggesting minimal evolution of the team in that time.

If it matters:

With age comes experience, however. This England squad have a total of 900 caps between them, an average of 39.1. The previous highest was at Italia 90, when Bobby Robson's side could boast 32.2 caps each.

Funko
02-06-2010, 13:47:14
Although the last paragraph of that article is retarded. 2003 England Rugby squad were the best team in the world going into the tournament.

novacane
02-06-2010, 17:32:45
We have an easy group followed by a very winnable tie against whoever comes 2nd to Germany.

You probably don't need me to point out that this assumes we win our group and Germany win theirs. It might appear to be the most likely scenario but there often a few surprises in the group games as teams bed in. Germany-England 2nd Round would be no shock.

Walrus Feeder
02-06-2010, 18:03:14
i reckon the possible 2nd round opponents could be tougher than QF opponents. Germany (although weaker looking than normal, but you nver write them off) or Serbia could be a tough proposition, maybe more than the current French team or Nigeria who i believe who will qualify from other groups.

Think Capello was right to leave Walcott out. Not a great season, Lennon and S W-P are better all round players and he never really seems that confident. Need good end product from wingers to, and he's lacking this too a lot of the time.

The Shaker
02-06-2010, 18:20:44
Rooney last 10 games with Heskey : 9 goals
Rooney last 10 games without Heskey : 2 goals

There was an alternate stat posted on the BBC

Heskey : Striker 58 Games, 7 Goals
Higuita : Goalkeeper 68 games, 8 goals
Chilavert: Goalkeeper 74 games, 8 goals.

Debaser
02-06-2010, 19:28:09
:lol:

MOBIUS
02-06-2010, 21:12:45
:beer:

Funko
03-06-2010, 07:58:15
You probably don't need me to point out that this assumes we win our group and Germany win theirs. It might appear to be the most likely scenario but there often a few surprises in the group games as teams bed in. Germany-England 2nd Round would be no shock.

Yep. OTOH we might both come second and avoid each other. :)

Funko
03-06-2010, 08:13:07
The Umbro paintings on the players home town walls, with squad numbers is cool (and quick reactions too).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/gallery/2010/jun/03/england-hometown-tributes

Also, if squad numbers indicate first 11

James
Johnson Terry Ferdinand Cole,A
Lennon Gerrard Lampard Cole,J
Rooney Crouch

illi
03-06-2010, 09:10:54
Love Capello, and his record, so think we're in good hands, BUT.. Milner and SW-P on left instead of currently poor J Cole, don't know why press like him so much recently, King and Carragher instead of card risk moron Terry and currently poor Ferdinand, Just Roonster to start up front, encourage the midfield quality to get forward. Oi Capello! Yeah mate nice one change the whole team and formation you noncio!

Funko
03-06-2010, 09:20:07
I'd include Joe Cole in every side. He's got that touch of creative skill and genius that's missing from most of the rest of the squad, no matter how good players they are.

Not sure why he's "currently poor" he's not been playing much, mainly because of Chelsea shape, but when he has played for Chelsea or England he's been good.

illi
03-06-2010, 09:25:10
eye of beholder.

Fistandantilus
03-06-2010, 09:49:41
That's a really offensive minded midfield

Funko
03-06-2010, 10:12:28
I think Gary Barry would normally be in the starting 11, but he's ruled out of first game due to injury.

Funko
03-06-2010, 10:12:46
And of course, you don't have to start with 1-11.

Back!
03-06-2010, 10:46:57
smoke gets in eye of beholder

illi
03-06-2010, 11:15:18
I am beholden to you for that last remark

Drekkus
03-06-2010, 11:44:05
In my view England QF appearance is the minimum we should expect. We have an easy group followed by a very winnable tie against whoever comes 2nd to Germany.

Anything above that depends who we're playing, all teams QF onwards will be very good, and having a bit of luck on the day.

Holland will be brilliant until they are kicked out by Brazil in the QF's.

novacane
04-06-2010, 08:22:11
The Umbro paintings on the players home town walls, with squad numbers is cool (and quick reactions too).

Stumbled across No.23 here last night. Looks great. Later found out that umbro had sounded out our theatre/cinema as a potential location for a Hart painting some months ago. The building is 17th Century and they assured us the paint was removeable but the council said no.

Would Walcott's have been in Reading?

Funko
04-06-2010, 08:29:38
Newbury probably?

Funko
04-06-2010, 15:14:23
Are Umbro rushing to paint over Rio's pic and get one up for Dawson?

Did they have a team ready for this eventuality?

Funko
07-06-2010, 09:33:26
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/06/england-world-cup-2010-referee

Fistandantilus
07-06-2010, 11:42:58
Refs who smile joyfully while handling out a red card are awesome.


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How can you not love him?

Funko
07-06-2010, 11:44:41
ONE RED CARD HA HA HA HA

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Count-von-count.jpg

MOBIUS
08-06-2010, 11:27:55
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/06/england-world-cup-2010-referee

"a crook, a scoundrel and a shameless bastard":lol: