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Funko
06-05-2010, 08:27:28
:beer:

I'm sure it'll get exciting later. In the meantime, who did you vote for?

Funko
06-05-2010, 08:30:49
I swapped some of the poll options around so their colours match the party colour. NERD!

Funko
06-05-2010, 08:48:07
Google UKIP, see the summary they have to describe themselves.

"Libertarian, non-racist party"

:lol: Good that's so important for them to say.

Fistandantilus
06-05-2010, 08:55:28
I didn't vote.

Funko
06-05-2010, 09:30:26
Can't believe UKIP arranged a plane crash as a publicity stunt. :(

Funko
06-05-2010, 09:42:16
Portillo on a Portillo Moment

My name is now synonymous with eating a bucketload of shit in public. I am on the brink of becoming a noun and so passing into history, alongside Captain Boycott and the Hooligan family.

When I am asked whether anyone at today's election is likely to suffer the same ignominy, I say, "Balls to that", and for good reason. But strictly speaking, if the children's secretary is defeated tonight – if Ed Balls falls – it won't qualify as a Portillo moment, because a genuine Portillo moment has to come out of leftfield.

In other ways, I would regard Balls as my worthy successor, for a Portillo moment should lead to national jubilation unmatched since the relief of Mafeking, and I stand ready to light tonight's first bonfire and launch the first rocket.

:lol: Fair play.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-05-2010, 10:20:59
can't vote :(

Funko
06-05-2010, 10:29:03
Pretty clear leader so far...

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-05-2010, 11:02:45
2/3rds libdem... that would be, about 82 seats?

Funko
06-05-2010, 11:06:36
:D

Anything over 42% they get a massive landslide victory. Labour can get a massive landslide on about 35%. Crazy voting system that we have.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-05-2010, 11:14:41
It has its advantages, but it's a bit crazy, yes.

I prefer the french system of majority voting - no 50%+ majority means a second round.

Fistandantilus
06-05-2010, 12:07:51
:D

Anything over 42% they get a massive landslide victory. Labour can get a massive landslide on about 35%.

Uh? Can both of those happen at the same time then?

King_Ghidra
06-05-2010, 13:15:39
only statistically. in reality they are mutually exclusive.

maroule
06-05-2010, 13:48:30
UKIP? is that a pun on "you keep"?
I thought I was reasonnably well informed on UK politics and it's the first time I heard about them
what is that? "Nazism and dialog"?

Funko
06-05-2010, 14:07:51
UK Independence Party. Their main stated goal is to get the UK out of the EU.

Basically the BNP for posh people.

maroule
06-05-2010, 14:13:07
"Their main stated goal is to get the UK out of the EU."

I see
so, average Tories with no hopes of actually getting power, so who can speak their minds, then


considering the size of your deficit, and what we have to dish out for tiny Greece, they're probably quite popular in Berlin and Paris right now

Funko
06-05-2010, 14:16:00
I see
so, average Tories with no hopes of actually getting power, so who can speak their minds, then

Yep. :D

Cheshire Cat
06-05-2010, 14:49:24
only statistically. in reality they are mutually exclusive.

counterbalancing landslides would only clog up the Channel, and England would become part of Continental Europe

Fistandantilus
06-05-2010, 14:50:34
This thread is disappointing, where are the exit polls results?

Oh and pie charts would help too.

Funko
06-05-2010, 14:56:27
I haven't seen any exit polls yet. BBC, ITV and Sky announce their exit polls as soon as the polls close. I don't know if they are allowed to publish them when the polls are open?

Make your own pie chart here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8609989.stm

Starts with the vote share at last election. Note big Labour majority with 36%. Really shows you how different parties need different shares of popular vote to get in power.

Fistandantilus
06-05-2010, 15:00:28
Fair enough, when do the polls close?

Funko
06-05-2010, 15:00:38
Also answer's Fist's question. If Labour got 35% and Lib Dems 43% they'd get about the same number of seats and a hung parliament.

Funko
06-05-2010, 15:00:50
Polls close at 10pm.

Funko
06-05-2010, 15:02:15
Also try playing with the swingometer:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8574653.stm

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-05-2010, 15:02:58
Oh yeah, the SWINGOMETER!

Fistandantilus
06-05-2010, 15:04:55
:lol: the swingometer is really cool.

King_Ghidra
06-05-2010, 15:05:39
This thread is disappointing

2010 and you still have such naive optimism

Funko
06-05-2010, 15:08:11
:lol: the swingometer is really cool.

I like how you can see which ministers/shadow cabinet members will lose their seats.

6% swing from Conservative to Lib Dem to turn Reading East yellow... can't see it happening sadly. Hopefully get closer for next time though.

Fistandantilus
06-05-2010, 15:10:26
So you don't expect a big swing %

Funko
06-05-2010, 15:11:06
Stats at the bottom of this for how many votes were cast last time for each party. UKIP came 4th and got 600,000 votes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2005

Funko
06-05-2010, 15:14:46
So you don't expect a big swing %

I think both Lib Dem and Conservative will increase percentage at Labours expense, increasing the Conservative majority. Labour were second last time.

Funko
06-05-2010, 15:24:24
There is only one exit poll. Methods and comments:

http://www.thegovmonitor.com/world_news/britain/uk-election-2010-about-tonights-exit-poll-30202.html

In terms of past accuracy, the exit poll last time got the Labour majority exactly right (though they were slightly off with Conservative and Lib Dem seats). Unless something goes terribly wrong, we should have a broad idea of the result a couple of minutes after 10 o’clock.

Fistandantilus
06-05-2010, 15:26:50
I love that Jeremy guy explaining me things in the swingometer.
Sometimes I expect him adding after ".. this is the swing for the <insert party> to have the largest amounts of seats since 1910" something like "that's not happening dumbass" and then laughing at me.

Funko
06-05-2010, 15:27:21
It's BBC policy not to laugh at the retarded.

Fistandantilus
06-05-2010, 15:29:33
That's a good policy.

Funko
06-05-2010, 15:51:59
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs607.snc3/31981_417511889574_60959924574_5451137_8375879_n.j pg

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-05-2010, 15:52:10
taylormade for CG

Funko
06-05-2010, 15:58:26
This is pretty cool, interactive collages of the leaders made out of election leaflets:

http://www.thestraightchoice.org/

Funko
06-05-2010, 16:21:03
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Greg W
06-05-2010, 16:23:31
You'd think that with the Queen as our head of state, we'd get to vote! But no... :bash:

Funko
06-05-2010, 16:26:25
I see some jokers have been putting fake votes in the poll. Conservatives indeed. :lol:

Greg W
06-05-2010, 16:28:21
I'm just worried where our second Scot came from! :eek:

Scabrous Birdseed
06-05-2010, 20:28:05
I would have voted SNP if I'd been in the UK.

Fistandantilus
06-05-2010, 23:17:08
Swedish national party?

Fistandantilus
07-05-2010, 07:45:30
It does seem the LibDem didn't enjoy the same success they are enjoying on CG

Funko
07-05-2010, 08:03:35
Well mixed feelings about last night. On one hand, 6 months ago anything but a massive conservative majority looked really unlikely, so this hung parliament is great. But after the campaign the Lib Dems had it's really depressing to see them not improve (despite still getting a quarter of the vote).

And Dr Evan Harris lost to a Christian nut-job, which is terrible. :(

Lib Dems did get up to 2nd in Reading East though, but still a lot further behind than I'd have hoped. :(

King_Ghidra
07-05-2010, 08:21:48
It certainly was a massive belly flop from the libs. But the tory results were weirdly mixed between massive unexpected swings in some seats and not quite enough in their targets.

A tory minority govt. beckons imho. any lib lab pact would be too weak to function with their low numbers. Still be interesting to see if tories require much support from libs, whose bargaining power has been severely limited now, and what they might do to win it.

and another election in a few months' time would not surprise me at all. in fact a tory minority govt now, seeking a majority in a little while would be my bet.

Nills Lagerbaak
07-05-2010, 08:24:25
Yes a very disappointing result for Libdems - the Red/Blue flip flop continues. Still we retained them in Bristol West.

Doesn't bode well for a lot of things, for example government quangos 2 of whom are our biggest clients!

Funko
07-05-2010, 08:33:44
Lib + Lab look like they might have more seats, and much higher percentage share of vote than Tories + a minor party. They'd actually have over 50% of vote between them. But Clegg has said he's not sure about an alliance of the defeated. I really don't know which way it'll go.

Nills Lagerbaak
07-05-2010, 08:49:50
Do Lib+Lab have to exceed Tory+minor by a certain majority again?

"Alliance of the defeated" doesn't sound good, but if it can achieve some electoral reform I think I'd be for it

King_Ghidra
07-05-2010, 08:59:39
only in the queen's speech. anyone who can get enough votes to pass a queen's speech can rule, even if they don't have a pure majority (even in alliance) of actual mp's.

it certainly would be interesting if a lab-lib minority govt formed on a mandate of electoral reform and then went back to the polls under that system. but as i said once upon a time, lab would have so much to lose under political reform that it would be a very risky and possibly pyrrhic victory.

Nills Lagerbaak
07-05-2010, 09:13:28
How do they "pass a queen's speech"? Like it's only over when the small lady speaks?

mr_B
07-05-2010, 09:41:00
Scottish National Party o/c

Funko
07-05-2010, 09:45:49
only in the queen's speech. anyone who can get enough votes to pass a queen's speech can rule, even if they don't have a pure majority (even in alliance) of actual mp's.

it certainly would be interesting if a lab-lib minority govt formed on a mandate of electoral reform and then went back to the polls under that system. but as i said once upon a time, lab would have so much to lose under political reform that it would be a very risky and possibly pyrrhic victory.

But you can only get a queens speech through if you are the sitting government, because only they can propose one. The only way the Tories can propose a queens speech is if Brown resigns, or is removed by a vote of no confidence and they then have the chance as the largest party to ask to form a government.

If another party had a majority he'd resign because the vote of no confidence would be a formality which is what normally happens.

Funko
07-05-2010, 09:46:17
How do they "pass a queen's speech"? Like it's only over when the small lady speaks?

Majority vote / large doses of laxatives.

Nills Lagerbaak
07-05-2010, 09:58:59
Wow sounds messy. I'd rather pass ON a queens speech.

Cheshire Cat
07-05-2010, 10:08:17
so, do we have to check online newspapers to learn the outcome, or is someone going to report the result for non-UK CGers?

:tizzy:

King_Ghidra
07-05-2010, 10:15:52
some of the results won't be in until lunchtime at the earliest so a little way to go yet. i'm sure someone will do the honours.

MDA
07-05-2010, 10:27:06
I'm just worried where our second Scot came from! :eek:

:D I claimed voting rights for having visited Scotland!

I've got middle of the woad political views.

Tizzy
07-05-2010, 10:35:41
And I didn't vote SNP so there's another one out there :eek:

Scabrous Birdseed
07-05-2010, 11:03:37
CG politician watch: Looks like Iain got a 7.6% swing but didn't win his seat.

Funko
07-05-2010, 11:13:45
To be fair he needed a bit of a miracle to win that one.

Scabrous Birdseed
07-05-2010, 11:15:29
Yeah, I think 32% is an impressive figure. Hopefully he'll get carpetbagged into a safe seat next time. :cool:

Cheshire Cat
07-05-2010, 11:31:39
does he at least control the seat of his trousers?

MOBIUS
07-05-2010, 14:37:32
I noticed the Tory bird K_G fancies didn't win her seat...:cute:

The Shaker
07-05-2010, 16:14:04
Ann Widdecombe?

King_Ghidra
08-05-2010, 14:02:56
I know, and she didn't even need that big a swing. She was pretty distraught on the election coverage.

Cheshire Cat
11-05-2010, 10:05:16
wouldn't Labour best interest be to support Cameron in a Minority Government, i.e. not requiring Tories to form a Coalition one with LibDems, in hope they soon crash so Lab can throw the blame of new elections on Conservatives?

this is a serious consideration

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Edit

inspired by this article, albeit I don't agree with all of it
http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/conservative-minority-government-good-for-labour.html

*End Is Forever*
17-05-2010, 13:50:49
I know, and she didn't even need that big a swing. She was pretty distraught on the election coverage.

Which candidate was that?

jsorense
19-05-2010, 02:51:28
So, who won?

Funko
19-05-2010, 08:01:09
The Country!
http://uwlib5.uwyo.edu/blogs/dustyshelves/files/2008/02/union-jack2.jpg
http://news.pinkpaper.com/uploads/Mag_Music/queen-elizabeth-II.jpg
http://www.canniff.com/img/EnglandTeam1966.jpg
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