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devilmunchkin
22-04-2010, 09:10:28
I have a phone interview with Roehampton U (in london) to get into their Ph.D program. Not sure when it will be - but I'm already scared. I'm trying to research as much as I can (the person who is supposed to speak with me gave me a list). I feel really overwhelmed.

Anyone have any interviewing tips for ph.d. interviews? WHat happens if they ask a question I don't know the answer to?

Funko
22-04-2010, 09:16:03
I don't have anything to say that'd help, but good luck! :beer:

Debaser
22-04-2010, 10:41:12
I used to layout Roehampton Uni's prospectuses and job ads. Exciting stuff. They seemed one of our nicer clients if I remember correctly.

Good luck!

Greg W
22-04-2010, 10:48:37
No advice to add either unfortunately, but best of luck with it. :beer:

Drekkus
22-04-2010, 11:00:22
Don't lie about stuff you have no answers to. Only about stuff you made up in your resume. Good luck! :beer:

mr_B
22-04-2010, 11:10:22
So does that mean there is a change you will come over to England and can appear on one of those wonderfull CG's round table drinky drinkies?

MDA
22-04-2010, 11:25:08
My interview was years ago, but it was basically an in-person meet and greet with some students and faculty.

I don't think any of us in the program would have been rejected after getting to the interview stage unless we were complete jerks. An interview for a science program in the US midwest might not be a good comparison, I guess. :)

Good luck!

JM^3
22-04-2010, 11:32:57
Sweden also has interviews (US interviews are more meet and greets).

Basically, there are a couple people who they think would do a good job, and then they do an interview to decide which. Note that unlike in the US, in Sweden PhD students are paid well and have almost 100% graduation rate. So they have to pick better than the US schools have to pick (many of the US schools intend to have a number of the students fail and leave, and even nice schools like UMD still had a significant fraction leave the program before completion).

I don't know whether the UK will be more like the US or more like Sweden.

Good luck.

JM

MOBIUS
22-04-2010, 16:17:12
We had 2 PHders through the other day for one position. Hopefully the rather foxy girl got it rather than the slightly weird Indian guy...;)

devilmunchkin
22-04-2010, 16:25:23
Woke up this morning and got an email from them. My interview isn't even until May 18th. oy. That is a long time to wait.. however, gives me a lot of time to prepare (and worry).

Yes, Pieter, I would end up moving. :) yay?

Beta1
22-04-2010, 16:29:16
I have a phone interview with Roehampton U (in london) to get into their Ph.D program. Not sure when it will be - but I'm already scared. I'm trying to research as much as I can (the person who is supposed to speak with me gave me a list). I feel really overwhelmed.

Anyone have any interviewing tips for ph.d. interviews? WHat happens if they ask a question I don't know the answer to?

I should be over qualified to answer this - I have a PhD and a teaching qualification from Roehampton. But actually I havnt a clue.

Some UK places are like sweden, some like US and it depends on the field. Where I did mine (CRUK / UCL) and where I postdoc-ed (Imperial) it is very hard to get in (they have applicants from the whole world to pick from) - at CRUK/UCL over half the PhD students will be overseas, some already having higher qualifications from their own countries. As a result the completion rate is very high - 90-100% I would guess at CRUK. But thats in a science field and at two major universities.

Roehampton is a nice enough little Uni - the best thing about it is the location, right on the edge of Richmond Park, you will be within 3 miles of that and wimbledon common. Putney, richmond, kingston and Wimbledon village are all easy to reach.

If you are looking for places to live let me know - I used to live round there and theres some areas best avoided.

Funko
22-04-2010, 16:32:21
Generally a lovely area though.

JM^3
22-04-2010, 16:38:25
The US isn't easy to get in, there are people from all over the world/etc, it is just that they would rather let in 70 people, have 50 accept, and have 25 get a PhD.

Sweden has pretty much every person who gets into the program get a PhD. So they would rather have 40 people interview, pick 15, and have all of those get a PhD.

JM

devilmunchkin
23-04-2010, 00:58:59
There are about 11 schools in the US that offer the program I'm going for (creative writing Ph.D). Those programs let in about 10 per year. I would assume that schools in the UK are just as hard to get in to in terms of this program. HOWEVER, the UK does not require standarized tests like the US.

Beta - What were all of those acronyms? Also, what is the campus like?

I'm waiting on Lancaster and Manchester for their decisions atm as well.

I'm ready to cry sometimes because I want this so badly. I'm also not the best speaker - especially when nervous.

Do you realize that this year, I will have known some of you for 9 years? 9 years and I've never met you.

Beta1
26-04-2010, 19:25:15
CRUK = Cancer Research UK - One of the largest charities in the UK. UCL = University College London, Its in the center of the city near Oxford Street.

I did my PhD at the CRUK main institute but as they are not a University themselves their PhD students are registered at UCL or Imperial and as a result our degrees come from there.

I did my PGCE (post-grad certificate in education) at Roehampton 5 years ago (well 5 in september this year)

The Roehampton campus is pretty nice, its built around the gardens of an old stately home that went through a few different uses before ending up a university (Can't remember if it started as a Nursing school or a teacher training place)

Oerdin
26-04-2010, 20:05:47
Best of luck.

Lurker
26-04-2010, 20:07:31
Do you realize that this year, I will have known some of you for 9 years? 9 years and I've never met you.

So your brilliantly brilliant plan must be working perfectly!

Japher
26-04-2010, 20:24:07
That's weird... which one of you has been posting those pics of her in the secret forum then?

devilmunchkin
27-04-2010, 09:43:15
Japher: O_o




Well, I'm relying on England now. All of the US schools turned me down again. 3 years in a row (and they are very expensive to apply to).

devilmunchkin
27-04-2010, 09:46:23
Oh yes - I looked at living costs and Manchester seems to be a lot cheaper than the Roehampton area.

Also, is it ok to admit I'm nervous during the interview or must I exude nothing but confidence?

Japher
27-04-2010, 17:57:34
you can exude less confience as long as you compensate with cash

MDA
27-04-2010, 18:08:49
only if they ask! then laugh and tell them "yes, but I've been nervous before and handled it"

then they'll think you're awesome!

Funko
04-05-2010, 09:55:35
When does this happen?

Cheshire Cat
04-05-2010, 10:46:52
Woke up this morning and got an email from them. My interview isn't even until May 18th. oy. That is a long time to wait.. however, gives me a lot of time to prepare (and worry).
not before 2 weeks

why don't some of you CG PhD let her call you for practice and rehearsal?
:beer:

Beta1
04-05-2010, 16:22:33
Cos most of us CG PhD are in science fields and its rather different I havn't the first clue about creative writing. I've also never had a phone interview.

Japher
05-05-2010, 15:49:36
It's easy to interview phones.

Funko
05-05-2010, 16:04:03
You think so? It freaks me out.

"Oh my god, there's a voice coming out of this phone thing?! It sounds like a person! Am I going mental?"

TCO
05-05-2010, 19:00:27
I would NOT tell them you are nervous. I think that sounds too much like you are asking them to take it easy on you. I expect the interview to be non-confrontational and non-pressure regardless. But be professional and friendly and direct. No "I'm so nervous" crap!

devilmunchkin
09-05-2010, 04:52:48
What I'm doing right now is rereading all of the sources I consulted to write my proposal and making notes/outlines of them. I'm also reading and taking notes on the essays that my possible dissertation director suggested I read. I'm also trying to figure out how those would benefit my paper.

I won't tell them I'm nervous. If I know me, they may be able to tell. I'm such a meek, squeeky little thing when I'm nervous.

Asher
09-05-2010, 04:55:52
I think you will nail the interview. Just sound sexy and finish random sentences with 'that's what she said' -- it will make them think you are creative and mysterious and ufnny

Asher
09-05-2010, 04:56:15
no wait, dont say 'thats what she said' -- say 'thats what i said'

Asher
09-05-2010, 04:56:36
on second thought i think that could be confusing

Perhaps say 'thats what i would say if i were talking sexual'

Asher
09-05-2010, 04:56:58
oh nevermind, just fuck me and ignore this

Asher
09-05-2010, 04:57:19
and i mean fuck me in the nonsexual way

^^ that's what she said

lol

devilmunchkin
09-05-2010, 07:55:32
ROFL!

mr_B
09-05-2010, 13:31:25
:lol:

break a leg muffin

Oerdin
09-05-2010, 21:20:04
only if they ask! then laugh and tell them "yes, but I've been nervous before and handled it"

then they'll think you're awesome!

This is honestly excellent advice.

devilmunchkin
09-05-2010, 22:27:52
9 days!

Cheshire Cat
11-05-2010, 09:39:35
quote Holden Caulfield:

“I don't exactly know what I mean by that, but I mean it.”

that's being assertive!
:D

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/i-don-t-exactly-know-what-i-mean-by-that-but-i/354834.html

Lurker
11-05-2010, 15:26:49
:lol: at Asher.

devilmunchkin
18-05-2010, 12:39:55
Less than 2.5 hours now. I'm reading all sorts of essays and trying to come up with what I like about them.

The part I'm having trouble with is "why should they like me?" What do I have to offer? Can anyone help?

mr_B
18-05-2010, 12:46:24
good luck muffin

Funko
18-05-2010, 13:25:07
Fingers crossed!

Why on earth shouldn't they like you? :beer:

Cheshire Cat
18-05-2010, 14:38:44
"why should they like me?" What do I have to offer?

the world is 99.999% full of dorks
you're just not one of them
that's precious

Asher
18-05-2010, 14:51:37
Good luck

self biased
18-05-2010, 15:33:51
good luck, sweets.

devilmunchkin
18-05-2010, 15:35:19
After speaking with me, they want to consult a few more faculty members before making a decision. I don't know why, but I have a sinking feeling about this even though they said I did well.

Funko
18-05-2010, 15:39:31
I think it's a good sign. They are more likely to be able to decide you are unsuitable without outside guidance.

Back!
18-05-2010, 15:44:38
I suggest you drink over it in any case

devilmunchkin
18-05-2010, 15:48:00
It's 8 am where I am....

JM^3
18-05-2010, 15:51:18
After speaking with me, they want to consult a few more faculty members before making a decision. I don't know why, but I have a sinking feeling about this even though they said I did well.

They will always do this, I think.

JM

devilmunchkin
18-05-2010, 15:57:38
Consult others or tell the person they did well?

Funko
18-05-2010, 16:02:13
Consult others.

JM^3
18-05-2010, 16:02:26
Consult others, they won't say 'we will hire you' even if they make the decision at that moment.

JM

Greg W
18-05-2010, 16:08:32
Well, the sun is over the yard arm somewhere... ;)

Glad they said you went well, Muffin. I have my fingers crossed for you. :)

Tizzy
18-05-2010, 16:10:49
Yeah, I'd say consulting other people is normal and nothing to be worried about. Did they say when they'd get back to you?

devilmunchkin
18-05-2010, 16:12:27
A day or 2.

It's not for hiring though. It's to see if I can get into the Ph.d program.

JM^3
18-05-2010, 16:15:23
Yeah, they are the same thing for Sweden at least.

JM

MDA
18-05-2010, 16:44:57
Did you tell them you have friends on the internet?

Lurker
18-05-2010, 18:46:21
But not in England, where they are.

Asher
18-05-2010, 18:46:50
I thought we had a couple posters here from England. HelloKitty and Vincent?

Though I hear they are no longer with us.

Lurker
18-05-2010, 18:46:56
Uhm, that doesn't make much sense does it?

Lurker
18-05-2010, 18:47:36
My post was in response to her post that it was 8 a.m. where she is.

Boo for second pages.

Drekkus
18-05-2010, 19:23:05
maybe adjust your settings to 2010 and set it to 75 posts per page?

Asher
18-05-2010, 19:57:59
Uhm, that doesn't make much sense does it?

Nor does this.

jsorense
18-05-2010, 20:49:01
A day or 2.

It's not for hiring though. It's to see if I can get into the Ph.d program.

Yeah, entering a graduate program is more like an adoption; i.e. long term financial, professional and emotional commitment by all concerned.

Lottsa luck to you d.:bounce::bounce::bounce:

Lurker
18-05-2010, 21:07:05
Sense is over-rated.

jsorense
18-05-2010, 21:10:11
Sense is over-rated.And you have non-.

devilmunchkin
18-05-2010, 22:45:19
MDA - no. But I'm not sure how it would come up.

It just strikes me as odd that they put me on hold to talk and then came back and told me they wanted to talk to others.

I just want this so bad.

Why would Vincent leave?

jsorense
19-05-2010, 01:40:55
[QUOTE=devilmunchkin;1012543]MDA - no. But I'm not sure how it would come up.

It just strikes me as odd that they put me on hold to talk and then came back and told me they wanted to talk to others.

I just want this so bad.

Why would Vincent leave?[/QUOTE
:rolleyes:Because he is Keith. :beer:

devilmunchkin
19-05-2010, 04:12:47
I don't understand :(

Funko
19-05-2010, 07:57:20
If you start understanding jsorense you really have to worry.

mr_B
19-05-2010, 08:32:09
worry in a biblical kinda way

Funko
19-05-2010, 08:33:49
If you start understanding mr_b you really really have to worry.

Cheshire Cat
19-05-2010, 08:34:29
Sense is over-rated.

And you have non-.

Lurker has non-rated?

Cheshire Cat
19-05-2010, 08:35:32
If you start understanding mr_b you really really have to worry.
in an underwater kinda way

Hochwassserschutzbauwerkalarm

mr_B
19-05-2010, 08:37:02
If you start understanding mr_b you really really have to worry.

really really in a biblical kinda way

Cheshire Cat
19-05-2010, 08:38:36
are you still upset with Noah?

mr_B
19-05-2010, 08:49:59
why

Funko
19-05-2010, 09:26:08
He coveted your neighbour's ox.

Tizzy
19-05-2010, 09:32:56
If you start understanding mr_b you really really have to worry.

Are you worried?

mr_B
19-05-2010, 09:36:24
:lol:

Funko
19-05-2010, 09:46:33
jj

devilmunchkin
19-05-2010, 09:48:12
Who is Noah?

devilmunchkin
19-05-2010, 09:48:32
Where is Vincent?

Cheshire Cat
19-05-2010, 10:01:24
in an underwater kinda way
really really in a biblical kinda way
are you still upset with Noah?
why
He coveted your neighbour's ox.
Who is Noah?

with his Ark, Noah spoiled mr_B's Flood dream of a totally underwater world

Cheshire Cat
19-05-2010, 10:03:16
Where is Vincent?

last seen here

http://www.counterglow.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1012150#post1012150

mr_B
19-05-2010, 10:17:56
with his Ark, Noah spoiled mr_B's Flood dream of a totally underwater world
no

Cheshire Cat
19-05-2010, 13:39:15
ah, ok

devilmunchkin
21-05-2010, 10:51:53
uugh... it's taking them forever to get back to me. I don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing. At the same time, Manchester sent me an email saying they wanted me to submit a revised copy of my proposal.

Funko
21-05-2010, 11:17:53
Might as well do that anyway.

MDA
21-05-2010, 13:48:21
they may have other interviews they need to conduct before making a final decision

JM^3
21-05-2010, 14:28:22
I would expect a week.

If they have contacted you after 5-9 days, contact them.

JM

Tizzy
21-05-2010, 14:38:13
Waiting to hear back from things sucks, I sympathise.
But they'd have been able to decide very quickly if they thought you weren't suitable so try to take it as a good sign.

Funko
21-05-2010, 15:27:47
Yeah! :beer:

devilmunchkin
24-05-2010, 21:23:37
I didn't get in.



Feel really lost right now. Manchester is my last shot. I need to figure out a way to focus my proposal even more.

Asher
24-05-2010, 21:43:36
Sorry to hear that dm :(

Good luck with Manchester!

self biased
25-05-2010, 01:01:06
jes jes. good luck with manchester.

mr_B
25-05-2010, 07:23:29
jj manchester

Funko
25-05-2010, 07:45:56
Good luck DM. Manchester is also a very good university.

Back!
25-05-2010, 08:35:17
is it called ManU?

Tizzy
25-05-2010, 09:18:01
Good luck

zmama
25-05-2010, 10:05:42
Yes, good luck!

Greg W
25-05-2010, 14:35:45
And just remember not to give up. If by some chance things don't work out, look at ways that you can improve your chances next time. Not being involved in that field, I can't really offer much advice, other than maybe getting yourself published in magazines (er, or whatever works)... stuff like that, I guess.

Best of luck with Manchester too. :)

devilmunchkin
26-05-2010, 04:32:06
I've already been published a bit..and I've already been trying for this for 3 years. However, I don't know what I'd do if I gave up. I'm in limbo the way my life is.

I stayed up until 6 am this morning revising my proposal and sent it off to Manchester. I'd post it for you to read but it ended up being 7 pages long. Your eyes would bleed.

self biased
26-05-2010, 06:09:49
so you're saying it'd be like reading one of oerdin's posts?

devilmunchkin
26-05-2010, 07:00:48
longer

MOBIUS
26-05-2010, 09:24:41
But not as long as a Darkstar post.

mr_B
26-05-2010, 09:57:22
I miss dorkstar :cry:

JM^3
26-05-2010, 10:25:17
Good luck

JM

MOBIUS
26-05-2010, 10:58:27
Yes, good luck!:beer::bounce::beer:

BTW, I'd easily prefer Manchester over London - from a non academic point of view.

From an academic(ish) POV they have an excellent University Challenge team!