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Funko
07-01-2010, 09:36:04
I'm back at work today.

The only person who lives outside the town where I work to actually bother coming in. :beer:

Drekkus
07-01-2010, 10:29:40
you and tizzy are the stoopids

Tizzy
07-01-2010, 10:30:23
:bash:

Drekkus
07-01-2010, 10:32:25
Ah well, just find comfort in the fact that the both of you could sit at home at this moment, in your bathrobe looking out into a winterwonderland with a nice cup of hot coffee or maybe even a glass of wine...

Tizzy
07-01-2010, 10:49:54
Or, we've both just earned massive brownie points with our bosses.

Drekkus
07-01-2010, 10:52:04
who are not in the office?

Funko
07-01-2010, 10:58:53
Or, we've both just earned massive brownie points with our bosses.

Yeah, totally. :provost:

Tizzy
07-01-2010, 11:00:22
who are not in the office?

Our head of department came in once she heard two of us were here.

Provost Harrison
07-01-2010, 11:37:28
Or, we've both just earned massive brownie points with our bosses.

Question is though, do those brownie points have any monetary value :p

The Shaker
07-01-2010, 11:38:02
so you forced your head of department, who was busy sitting at home in a bathrobe to come into work else they would lose face....that sounds like a brownie point loss to me :)

Funko
07-01-2010, 11:48:48
Her department head lives a short walk across the road from work too!

mr_B
07-01-2010, 11:54:17
and came in in a bathrope?

MDA
07-01-2010, 12:01:07
yeah, it should have been bathrobe day

Cheshire Cat
07-01-2010, 12:05:20
Underwater bathrobe!!! or rope!

Tizzy
07-01-2010, 15:31:56
I am now at home. And plan to remain so until at least Monday except for brief excursions to forage for supplies.

Provost Harrison
07-01-2010, 17:29:39
Yeah, me too...although the problem for me is that I can work from home. I want to go for a swim as well - let's see if that is possible.

Beta1
07-01-2010, 18:41:23
i was off again today.

Just with they would say they are closing for the week and be done with it.

That said the west midlands is due another load of snow at the weekend.

they are going to start to run into problems with the january GCSE/A-level exams soon.

The Shaker
07-01-2010, 19:45:49
Exams are so easy nowadays they should be able to pass them without being educated at all.
{duck}

alsieboo
07-01-2010, 20:32:47
I was in yesterday, took today off and am unfortunately planning on going in tomorrow (emotional blackmail from everyone who was in today)

Asher
07-01-2010, 20:36:38
I genuinely find it adorable that when the UK gets a bit of snow, it shuts everything down and people are all hysterical.

mr_B
08-01-2010, 02:26:54
:lol: jesjes we european are not used of the aboot weather

Drekkus
08-01-2010, 08:25:32
I genuinely find it adorable that when the UK gets a bit of snow, it shuts everything down and people are all hysterical.
Funko already made an anticipatory thread about this.

Scabrous Birdseed
08-01-2010, 09:14:27
I genuinely find it adorable that when the UK gets a bit of snow, it shuts everything down and people are all hysterical.

But can you imagine? All the cars with only summer tires, no ploughing, no gritting...

Funko
08-01-2010, 09:18:32
There is some gritting and ploughing, but not much. Only major routes. Especially not now all the grit is running out and being rationed.

Was also listening to something on the radio this morning about people not clearing snow from the pavements because of fear of being sued?! Which I didn't really understand.

Tizzy
08-01-2010, 09:43:53
Probably because there was a story during the snow before Christmas (can't remember where I saw it) about someone clearing the snow from the pavement in front of their house and then getting sued by someone who slipped on that bit.
I still haven't worked out on what grounds you could sue someone for that though.

MOBIUS
08-01-2010, 11:26:36
There is some gritting and ploughing, but not much. Only major routes. Especially not now all the grit is running out and being rationed.

Which is pretty dumb IMO, especially given the heads up we had in Feb...:rolleyes:

Funko
08-01-2010, 11:59:10
But if they put up everyone's council tax to pay for more grit, or cut other community services to prepare for something that happens so rarely they won't get elected again.

Funko
08-01-2010, 12:00:52
re: Scabby's comment, in places that get lots of snow do people literally have 2 sets of wheels for their cars and change them over in winter? Or just run snow tires all the time (doesn't seem like a good idea).

Funko
08-01-2010, 12:01:19
I guess it's the same as that strange summer/winter clothes concept.

MOBIUS
08-01-2010, 12:28:46
But if they put up everyone's council tax to pay for more grit, or cut other community services to prepare for something that happens so rarely they won't get elected again.

We're talking about some fucking grit and some storage space…:rolleyes:

Do you have a savings account for rainy days? It’s the same difference. Does your savings account only have a few pounds in it – no, of course not!

Funko
08-01-2010, 12:31:02
West Berks has spent £1m on grit so far apparently. It's not small change.

MOBIUS
08-01-2010, 12:35:17
re: Scabby's comment, in places that get lots of snow do people literally have 2 sets of wheels for their cars and change them over in winter? Or just run snow tires all the time (doesn't seem like a good idea).

Probably the former. When we hired a 4WD in Iceland during the spring, it had tyres with metal studs in them. It makes sense to have two sets if you’re going to be using your winter ones for several months of the year. You should be able to change 4 wheels within an hour anyway…

Otherwise, there’s also snow chains.

MOBIUS
08-01-2010, 12:42:22
West Berks has spent £1m on grit so far apparently. It's not small change.

Yeah, probably because they are paying premium rates because they didn’t have any in the first place…:rolleyes:

Apparently there’s only one salt mine in the entire country and it’s working flat out, so if I was them, I wouldn’t be selling a scarce commodity that’s in high demand at a discount.

What’s £1M divided by the whole population of West Berks anyway, a bit of small change?

My solution is that you gradually build up a strategic reserve of the stuff over a number of years, that way you can do it cheaply and also spread the cost to the taxpayer.

MDA
08-01-2010, 12:59:51
We change them over in winter, they're loud and not as good for gas mileage on dry road.

I think studded winter tires have actual date restrictions because they wear down dry roads (probably varies depending on what state you're in).

Funko
08-01-2010, 13:40:11
Yeah, probably because they are paying premium rates because they didn’t have any in the first place…:rolleyes:

Apparently there’s only one salt mine in the entire country and it’s working flat out, so if I was them, I wouldn’t be selling a scarce commodity that’s in high demand at a discount.

What’s £1M divided by the whole population of West Berks anyway, a bit of small change?

My solution is that you gradually build up a strategic reserve of the stuff over a number of years, that way you can do it cheaply and also spread the cost to the taxpayer.

Don't forget the cost of maintaining the gritting fleet, the snow ploughs, staff costs etc.

£10 each apparently.

I was being facetious anyway. I don't mind if the bills go up a bit.

Funko
08-01-2010, 13:41:17
My solution is that you gradually build up a strategic reserve of the stuff over a number of years, that way you can do it cheaply and also spread the cost to the taxpayer.

Obvious with hindsight though?

On the other hand we've never had anything remotely like this in my lifetime.

Asher
08-01-2010, 14:50:05
re: Scabby's comment, in places that get lots of snow do people literally have 2 sets of wheels for their cars and change them over in winter? Or just run snow tires all the time (doesn't seem like a good idea).
Of course. In some places (Quebec), it's actually law to do so.

I run "all season" tires from March through October, then "winter/snow" tires in November through February. Makes a massive difference.

In Calgary, winter is longer so it's October through March for winter tires.

Asher
08-01-2010, 14:52:54
You don't necessarily need dedicated trucking fleets for road clearing.

Most Canadian cities use the pickup trucks year round. In summer, they're work trucks for parks maintenance, landscaping, pot-hole repair, etc. In winter, they strap on a plow on the front and a sanding machine in the bed of the truck. Both are surprisingly affordable.

Funko
08-01-2010, 16:32:35
It's like a different world! People changing their wheels twice a year! Amazing.

The Mad Monk
08-01-2010, 17:06:03
All-seasons are the norm in most states.

MDA
08-01-2010, 17:58:02
Yeah, just going from Pennsylvania to Maryland we've gone to leaving allseasons on all year.

I didn't really need them in central Ohio either.

Asher
08-01-2010, 17:59:50
All seasons are very dangerous on winter roads here. Especially the vast majority of the really shitty one. No grip on ice/snow.

The Mad Monk
08-01-2010, 19:08:32
Yeah, I would expect that. The roads here are are dry most of the winter, so the problems caused by winter tires on dry roads have more weight.

MOBIUS
08-01-2010, 23:24:24
Don't forget the cost of maintaining the gritting fleet, the snow ploughs, staff costs etc.

I'm not talking about getting more of them - there's enough of those - it's the salt/grit that keeps running out.

£10 each apparently.

So bugger all then. Plus if you spread the build up over a number of 'fallow' years then it's even less.

I was being facetious anyway. I don't mind if the bills go up a bit.

Attaboy! You, sir, are in the distinct minority - even if it is only a piddly £10!

MOBIUS
08-01-2010, 23:30:45
Obvious with hindsight though?

No. Obvious with foresight. Last February, actually...

On the other hand we've never had anything remotely like this in my lifetime.

I believe Reading was quite badly hit for the South. I've definitely seen the scale before in my lifetime (:cute: ), however I haven't seen the stuff stay around for so long...

But the point is, we had the warning last February. Grit doesn't have a sell-by date. You buy what you need for a sufficient strategic reserve and then you don't need to dip your hand into your pocket until you've used the first batch - it's simple common sense.

Also, part of the issue with Global Warming is the weakening of the Gulf Stream - perhaps if it were stronger, this high wouldn't have parked itself over the UK and left the door open for weather from Siberia? It actually is prudent to assume that - because of global warming - the UK will have colder winters, at least initially...

Drekkus
09-01-2010, 12:45:05
Of course. In some places (Quebec), it's actually law to do so.

I run "all season" tires from March through October, then "winter/snow" tires in November through February. Makes a massive difference.

In Calgary, winter is longer so it's October through March for winter tires.

I have winter tyres from november until early march. It does make a difference, but when you have 3 cm of solid ice on the streets (people skating on the streets), it's still very slippery indeed.

mr_B
09-01-2010, 12:46:55
slipperly people

why the big suit?

Scabrous Birdseed
09-01-2010, 18:38:00
In Sweden it's a legal requirement to change twice a year, as long as there's "winter road conditions" winter tires are compulsory december through march, optional in november and april and forbidden for the rest of the year. There's a big debate about studs (safer) vs. not studs (more environmentally friendly, releases less particles in cities) right now though.

Funko
11-01-2010, 09:22:27
No. Obvious with foresight. Last February, actually...


so you are building up stocks over many years, since Feb?

Funko
11-01-2010, 09:24:51
And Feb was nothing like this. This is an order of magnitude worse.

Drekkus
11-01-2010, 09:37:10
I'm a member of the Order of the Magnitude Worse.

Funko
11-01-2010, 09:38:09
In my eyes you are an order of magnitude worse.

Drekkus
11-01-2010, 09:38:35
Is that an order?

Funko
11-01-2010, 09:41:28
Yes, of magnitude worse please.

Drekkus
11-01-2010, 11:52:00
Marnix his new favorite theme is Star Worst.