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Japher
12-10-2009, 16:15:14
So is it Country and Western or Country Western? Is it referring to two types of music genre or two? If two, what's the difference?

If you were a cowboy what would your name be?

Shotgun or pistol?

Black horse or white?

Provost Harrison
12-10-2009, 16:30:04
Country and Western. It is both, they are not mutually exclusive like shotgun and pistol :p

Cowboy name? If it were Laz it would be Black and Decker :D

mr_B
12-10-2009, 19:24:22
Pistol Pete riding a black horse

Debaser
12-10-2009, 19:41:54
Country = Love Me Tender
Western = Achy Breaky Heart

MDA
12-10-2009, 20:28:25
Don't fence me in?

Greg W
13-10-2009, 03:47:13
Country = Australia!
Western = Pale Rider!

Me, I'd be Sheriff Woody! "Reach for the sky!"

Scabrous Birdseed
13-10-2009, 07:24:19
When Country & Western was named as a genre in 1949 by Billboard magazine (and probably, historians think, by Jerry Wexler), it was as a counterpart to the simultaneously created genre of Rhythm & Blues. Both were really descriptors of a market segment rather than a particular style, which is why they've survived so long as terms irrespective of content. Before 1949, most charts had Country & Western down as the "folk" chart. So in one sense there's nothing separate about them, just as there's no "rhythm music", only R&B. Since 1962 the chart has been the "Country" chart only, and saying "Country & Western" is more of a stylistic flourish than anything.

However, the name change was also prompted by the loss (to the charts) of the music previously identified as "Western", as opposed to the Nashville-cented "Country". This type of music is in actual fact much older than its "country" cousin, going back to the "wild west" era in the 19th century, when folk ballads would be transformed into "cowboy ballads" (not unlike the narcocorridos celebrating drug smugglers in northern mexico today). By the 40s the genre was pretty much set and commercialised. "Don't fence me in" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ99V9G-G0c), as MDA mentions, is a classic example.

Then there's also the jazzed-up version, western swing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1OMFTxPbtg), which I think is quite fun as a sort of precursor to rock.

mr_B
13-10-2009, 08:04:28
one of the best country and western songs evah!!

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Greg W
14-10-2009, 06:14:03
This type of music is in actual fact much older than its "country" cousin, going back to the "wild west" era in the 19th century, when folk ballads would be transformed into "cowboy ballads"And here I always thought that Clint Eastwood in paint your wagon was unrealistic! Now you're telling me he was mor elike a cowboy in that movie than any other! :eek:

I may never watch another Western again! :cry: