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JM^3
08-07-2009, 16:07:55
Hey

I accepted a post doc at the Ice Cube experiment in the Sweden (Uppsala) group.

Anyone have any advice/suggestions/etc?

There was a thread on poly, but I know that some people from here don't go over there. And that was more about accepting the position too.

I get lots of vacation time so intend to travel around europe some too.

Anyone who has done it, how does taxation work? I am pretty sure that Sweden pulls out taxes from my employer while I am there. Do I have to pay taxes in the US?

JM

Funko
08-07-2009, 16:08:50
http://www.transmissionentertainment.com/artists/i/icecube/icecube3.jpg

?!?!

Maybe a smaller pic...

JM^3
08-07-2009, 16:10:33
We are testing the opacity of his bling.

JM

Funko
08-07-2009, 16:14:42
I do sometimes go to Poly and still didn't see the thread. Exciting anyway. I've never been to Sweden.

Maybe you can pop over to the UK whilst you are there?

Japher
08-07-2009, 16:29:19
I saw the thread, but you hadn't accepted it then.

Good luck and have fun... send pics of hot Swedish chicks. Preferably ones you've nailed.

Funko
08-07-2009, 16:30:48
Just been reading up about the Ice Cube, it sounds cool.

Japher
08-07-2009, 16:34:52
I liked him in Friday. Craig, why you stealin' boxes on your day off?

I have a friend I call the white Ice-Cube. Haven't seen him in a couple of years. I should call him.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
08-07-2009, 16:35:07
Ice cube experiment?

"Anyone who has done it, how does taxation work? I am pretty sure that Sweden pulls out taxes from my employer while I am there. Do I have to pay taxes in the US?"

Scabby will know more on this, but as an employee, payroll and income tax will be deducted by your employer. The US has a habit of taxing its citizens worldwide, but usually you can deduct the taxes paid in the country you work, so with Sweden's tax rates, that should not be a problem. I just think that you have to file a US tax return nonetheless. Google for "double taxation" and "foreign tax credit".

Bad for you: Alcohol is expensive in Sweden. :beer:

Japher
08-07-2009, 16:47:06
He doesn't really drink any more

Dyl Ulenspiegel
08-07-2009, 16:53:26
Sweden's finance minister will be heartbroken.

JM^3
08-07-2009, 16:57:18
Yeah, for most of the last few years I have only consumed a couple of drinks a month (or occasionally a lot).

Right now, because one of the new guys I am hanging out a lot likes going to bars/whatever, I have increased my consumption to a couple drinks a week. Actually, sometimes it gets up to a few. I don't think it has been up to a lot.

I did go interview there, and the dinners and alcohol with dinner was very expensive. I will need to only eat out if I am on a date or something.

It would be cool to visit England during some part of my vacation time. Some will probably be spent in northeastern europe, scandinavia, and Sweden though.

JM
*Couple in the estimate sense of the word, being anywhere from 1-4.

JM^3
08-07-2009, 17:01:01
http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/29327

Ice Cube is a large neutrino observator on the South Pole. Many universities are involved with it, major ones being Wiscousin and Uppsala (UMD is also involved in it).

New physics will come from an experiment like LHC in Cern or by Observatories like Ice Cube in Antartica.

JM

Japher
08-07-2009, 17:01:37
I will need to only eat out if I am on a date or something.

but you don't need to go to a restaurant for that

JM^3
08-07-2009, 17:03:21
No, but I am trying to say that eating outin the evening would need to be for occasions only, not just for 'I am bored of eating at home'.

JM

Japher
08-07-2009, 17:27:27
I was talking about eating out your date.

JM^3
08-07-2009, 17:47:44
lol

I am naive or dense or something cause I missed that.

JM

mr_B
08-07-2009, 18:25:45
and Japher isn't that clear in his posts

why the fuck is he posting again after 1,5 year ?

Scabrous Birdseed
08-07-2009, 18:48:05
Swedish taxation consists of one component deducted from the employer ("employer's fee" and "social fees" that go to stuff like national health insurance) and one component deducted directly from your paycheck that mostly goes to municipal services. (Sweden has no corporate tax and property tax so almost everything is done via income or employment taxes.) Expect a 30-60% additional tax on anything you earn on paper, depending on how much you earn. (It will, however, be automatically deducted. If you expect to work less than a year it might make sense to fill out a "skattejämkning" (tax adjustment) form to get the numbers exactly right, or you get money back in june instead.)

Uppsala is a nice town with good communications and a healthy academic climate, you'd like it there. Your employer will probably be better qualified to tell you what to do with various stuff, but getting yourself a personnummer (national id number) is probably a decent idea if you're staying longer, it'll save you a lot of hassle.

Lurker
08-07-2009, 18:55:02
"on a date" :lol:

JM^3
08-07-2009, 18:59:08
I had a couple this year. I hope for more next year.

JM

Drekkus
08-07-2009, 19:30:47
you had enough for this year?

Beta1
08-07-2009, 19:49:43
congrats JM, I knew a couple of people who did post-docs in uppsala. They liked it there.

Still they also like exeter so its all relative.

JM^3
08-07-2009, 20:01:23
you had enough for this year?

I still think in terms of school years, which get over in May or August.

JM

Japher
08-07-2009, 20:09:28
and Japher isn't that clear in his posts

why the fuck is he posting again after 1,5 year ?

New job not as stressful as old job, need to bug you.

The Shaker
08-07-2009, 20:16:19
congrats JM, I knew a couple of people who did post-docs in uppsala. They liked it there.

Still they also like exeter so its all relative.


Oi!

Chairman Yang
09-07-2009, 01:07:37
sverige åt svenskarna

Funko
09-07-2009, 08:10:41
http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/29327

Ice Cube is a large neutrino observator on the South Pole. Many universities are involved with it, major ones being Wiscousin and Uppsala (UMD is also involved in it).

New physics will come from an experiment like LHC in Cern or by Observatories like Ice Cube in Antartica.

JM

Stupidly I assumed if you were going to Sweden Ice Cube must be in the Arctic. Wonders of modern technology.

It is an exciting experiment though, not surprised you went for it. :beer:

Drekkus
09-07-2009, 08:14:23
sverige åt svenskarna

:eek: What the hell. Did you happen to pass by or have you been lurking here all there years without posting?

Funko
09-07-2009, 08:15:56
Still they also like exeter so its all relative.

I can't believe someone who lives in Birmingham would criticize Exeter!

King_Ghidra
09-07-2009, 08:18:37
Yeah, for most of the last few years I have only consumed a couple of drinks a month (or occasionally a lot).

:lol:

Scabrous Birdseed
09-07-2009, 09:28:44
So what else do you want to know about Sweden?

mr_B
09-07-2009, 09:41:47
is it true that in Sweden it is very polite to punch a lady on the left tit?

MDA
09-07-2009, 10:54:45
:beer:

cool! /james

do you anticipate a language barrier or does everyone just speak math?

Drekkus
09-07-2009, 11:49:46
Say Upp Sa La your head
Say Uppsala your head

Japher
09-07-2009, 12:37:05
I got the power!

JM^3
09-07-2009, 15:16:24
So what else do you want to know about Sweden?

Err, general practices/etc?

I am guessing at some point it will be things to see.

Recommendations for living? I think that I won't get a car.

JM

King_Ghidra
09-07-2009, 15:23:20
everyone uses sledges and huskies anyway

Japher
09-07-2009, 15:32:15
http://www.nada.kth.se/~jsh/resor/svenskaseder.html

a Japanese guy in Swedeland

Venom
09-07-2009, 15:37:57
is it true that in Sweden it is very polite to punch a lady on the left tit?

That's polite everywhere. Except Rightitistan.

JM^3
09-07-2009, 16:20:31
Note: Don't punch ladies in the left tit.

JM

Scabrous Birdseed
09-07-2009, 16:24:44
Err, general practices/etc?

I think you'll have to specify this one. Academic, employment, real life? I dunno, tip less than you would in the US?

I am guessing at some point it will be things to see.

Stockholm/Gothenburg are givens. If you stay til next summer the north and the scandinavian mountain range is pretty. These are pretty much all worth visiting:

http://whc.unesco.org/en/statesparties/se

Recommendations for living? I think that I won't get a car.

Don't get a car, Uppsala has good public transport. There's a definite shortage of appartments in Uppsala due to the huge number of students, but if you're willing to go slightly bigger or more expensive it shouldn't be a problem. Renting a house (like you could in the US or Britain) is unlikely to happen, though you could buy one if you have the money.

JM^3
09-07-2009, 16:30:41
I don't really have to worry about employment, I think? I mean, post docs are generally special and I have one and need to work with them about. Also, I have this site: http://www.researchinsweden.se/RIS_templates/Page.aspx?id=260 . I am also not a student, so Academic probably isn't different either? Real life is the biggest thing. US tipping is 10-20%, how about Sweden?

From Uppsala I should be able to visit Stockholm often, as the train connects the two.

Yeah, I keep thinking that I should start looking for an appartment earlier rather than later. I would prefer to live cheaply, as I have been a poor student all my life and have student loans (and no bank ballance, obviously).

JM

MDA
09-07-2009, 16:49:48
Carry Swedish Fish in your pocket and give them to every child you see.

Also, if you liked your meal at a restaurant, ask the waiter to tell the chef, "Bork! Bork! Bork! Bork!". Its very flattering.

Scabrous Birdseed
09-07-2009, 18:41:54
Yeah, I keep thinking that I should start looking for an appartment earlier rather than later. I would prefer to live cheaply, as I have been a poor student all my life and have student loans (and no bank ballance, obviously).


I have a bunch of friends in Uppsala, I could check with them. How central does it have to be? Centre, suburbs, surrounding villages? Max commute time?

Tipping: 0-10% if service is good and generally only in upscale restaurants.

Venom
09-07-2009, 20:06:10
If zero is an option, you take that bitch.

JM^3
09-07-2009, 21:46:51
I have a bunch of friends in Uppsala, I could check with them. How central does it have to be? Centre, suburbs, surrounding villages? Max commute time?

Tipping: 0-10% if service is good and generally only in upscale restaurants.

The physics lab is at Angstrom Laboratory

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JM

MOBIUS
10-07-2009, 10:48:20
Also, if you liked your meal at a restaurant, ask the waiter to tell the chef, "Bork! Bork! Bork! Bork!". Its very flattering.

Isn't it "Bjork"? Or am I getting that confused with Denmark and Iceland?

Chairman Yang
10-07-2009, 16:56:59
:eek: What the hell. Did you happen to pass by or have you been lurking here all there years without posting?

happened to pass by, aboo was mentioned and I came to see if she still posted here. was curious, I see everything is its same old self here.

kbai!

Snotty
13-07-2009, 07:32:34
Most people will speak english, except non natives tend to speak their own language and swedish. I worked for 4 months with only basic swedish, but i was clearly trying to learn/use the language which people seemd to appreciate. watching swedish tv helped me learn a lot as a lot of programs are in english with swedish subtitles

you should need to get an samordningsnummer (like coordination number) before your personnummer which you get if you are staying a while. like a social security nmber so they can tax you and you can get health care etc. I needed to get a letter of an offer of employment from my employer then take that letter to the tax office before they would give me one. Most of those people there were happy enough to speak english with me , but i did ask them politly in swedish if they spoke english ( talar ni engleska)

enjoy!

Oerdin
13-07-2009, 07:34:04
Carry Swedish Fish in your pocket and give them to every child you see.

Also, if you liked your meal at a restaurant, ask the waiter to tell the chef, "Bork! Bork! Bork! Bork!". Its very flattering.

:lol:

Oerdin
13-07-2009, 07:34:48
Isn't it "Bjork"? Or am I getting that confused with Denmark and Iceland?

And Mobius not getting it is even better! :lol: