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The Management
23-05-2009, 14:13:52
Yes it looks a bit shit at the moment. You can change to one of our classic styles but they might not work great until we've had chance to fix them.

Yes, some of the images need changing.

Yes, some of the smilies are different (I'll try and bring them back)

Yes, I've added a NERD smiley :nerd:

There are so many new options it's going to take a while to sort it all out.

Can you put useful feedback or things we need to look at in this thread, I'll start a new one for whining and bitching about change.

The Management
23-05-2009, 14:25:22
Can I suggest using the "light" theme for the moment until we get the dark one sorted, it actually looks pretty good.

And for a dark theme, change to "darkfutura".

Provost Harrison
23-05-2009, 14:36:29
It's shit.

Now cry dammit :p

Funko
23-05-2009, 14:36:41
Right, I've spent enough time on this today. I'll come and try and sort out the 'dark' style later/tomorrow.

Provost Harrison
23-05-2009, 14:38:41
Actually that was quite quick, I thought it would've taken you a lot longer. If it were poly, well, it would've been years :lol:

Provost Harrison
23-05-2009, 14:39:17
...I think you'll need to work on the antialiasing of the logo for different schemes though. Just to be awkward :p

Provost Harrison
23-05-2009, 14:39:55
MY EYES! MY EYES! I can see our post counts!

Fistandantilus
23-05-2009, 14:42:13
Nice work :beer:

Provost Harrison
23-05-2009, 14:43:18
Yeah, ignore my silliness...I'm impressed that you've done the upgrade and the speed of the turnaround. If this were poly we'd be expecting another 10 server crashes yet before things were "sorted out". And by "sorted out", I mean not :lol:

Funko
23-05-2009, 14:43:47
I could have left it all turned off until we'd fixed the styling but I figure you all posting shit is more important than how it looks for now.

Funko
23-05-2009, 14:44:49
Wouldn't have taken this long if I knew what I was doing.

Provost Harrison
23-05-2009, 14:46:34
So from this, we can conclude that poly really have no fucking clue whatsoever? :)

Provost Harrison
23-05-2009, 14:47:14
It doesn't look too bad actually - I have the dark blue colour theme on, but this quick reply box clashes with it big style...

Fistandantilus
23-05-2009, 14:47:45
Indeed :D Besided, I'm using vBulletin3 Style until may beloved Dark is fixed.
I know that means forever :p

Oh, and the twitter feedback was amazing, I was laughing my ass of at some comments with a couple of friends. Tx for all the time/work you put in this, I bet Nav was only watching right?

Funko
23-05-2009, 14:49:32
He helped out with a couple of things.

Fistandantilus
23-05-2009, 14:51:23
Oh, ok, thanks to you too Nav for making tea and ordering those burgers then :D

Provost Harrison
23-05-2009, 14:52:49
Yeah, Nav, all that! ;)

Provost Harrison
23-05-2009, 14:56:09
I must ask though, what is going on at the end of the nerd smiley. Is he sucking off a hoover or something?

Tizzy
23-05-2009, 14:56:15
Oh, ok, thanks to you too Nav for making tea and ordering those burgers then :D


:mad: That was me

The Management
23-05-2009, 14:58:26
Yeah, me and Nav are in different towns, but we have MSN.

The Management
23-05-2009, 15:06:23
Right, for people wanting a dark style choose darkfutura, it's the best available at the moment, closest to our old style and the one we'll be working on.

Fistandantilus
23-05-2009, 15:09:10
:mad: That was me

Not my fault if he never specifies things :(

He even posts under that Management login to confuse me more :(

An apology in the form of some wine is in order.

The Management
23-05-2009, 15:29:21
Oh and darkfutura currently sucks, Nav's going to have a look later.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-05-2009, 15:29:34
Things that definitely have to go:

Post counts
IM Icons
"Report this post"
Extremely large icons, uneconomical design with each post having tons of whitespace

Things that are of questionable value:

Huge Poster names
Online button
All the other new bloaty "features"

Other than that, GREAT WORK GUYS!

Scabrous Birdseed
23-05-2009, 15:36:10
Oh, and make image attachments show automatically.

Provost Harrison
23-05-2009, 15:36:38
Oh and darkfutura currently sucks, Nav's going to have a look later.

Yeah, it's getting right on my tits - I can't see a thing!

The Management
23-05-2009, 15:37:13
Yeah, as soon as I can work out how to turn all that stuff off I will. There are now more pages of options than there were options in the old version.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-05-2009, 15:42:46
Actually useful visible features:

New, better quoting
Thread post numbers for KHunts, though they don't fucking need their own lines!

So far.

Provost Harrison
23-05-2009, 15:45:15
Yeah, there is quite a handy multi-quote feature on the more modern versions of vBulletin...although saying that, like we ever post cogent responses to multiple posts :lol:

Fistandantilus
23-05-2009, 15:53:29
I think you should rename the "Quote" label into "xFear :shoot:" if the quoted post is directly above. Be creative :p

The Management
23-05-2009, 15:54:54
IM icons turned off!

mr_B
23-05-2009, 16:19:45
vista sucks !!!:tizzy:

*End Is Forever*
23-05-2009, 16:51:48
I'm posting this just to see how many posts I've made.

*End Is Forever*
23-05-2009, 16:54:49
I think you need to make the usernames smaller. The sidebar is taking up way too much of the screen. Other than that, good job, although I'll be switching back to the dark colour scheme when it's available.

protein
23-05-2009, 16:57:57
Right, I've spent enough time on this today. I'll come and try and sort out the 'dark' style later/tomorrow.


that's just not good enough. i demand that you stay at your computer until this forum is exactly how i want it.

protein
23-05-2009, 16:59:35
i've made 13,651 pointless posts here. i wonder how much time that amounts to. maybe the post count will inspire me to get on with my real life instead of waste it online?

nah...

Provost Harrison
23-05-2009, 17:02:16
I think you need to make the usernames smaller. The sidebar is taking up way too much of the screen. Other than that, good job, although I'll be switching back to the dark colour scheme when it's available.

There is another solution to your problem:

Get a decent monitor that supports proper resolutions :p

Asher
23-05-2009, 17:03:32
Any reason we're on 3.6? Why not upgrade to the latest 3.8.2?

Fistandantilus
23-05-2009, 17:08:37
Believe cause of this?


It is not possible to upgrade directly from vBulletin 2 to vBulletin versions 3.8.x and newer due to incompatabilities in data structures.

Asher
23-05-2009, 17:10:54
There should be an upgrade script though.

Asher
23-05-2009, 17:13:22
I mean it's great we've upgraded to 2006, but before too much time is spent customizing this back to what we want...upgrading to 2009 might be in order. ;)

Sirius Black
23-05-2009, 18:03:46
That light style hurt my eyes. It's like being in a pub until 8 in the morning and walking out into the bright sunlight.

alsieboo
23-05-2009, 18:19:22
Hm. It looks like too many of those other forums. We're not different anymore :(

Funko
23-05-2009, 18:22:27
I might go up to 3.8.2 tomorrow. I wanted to make sure everything was stable on 3.6, and get some of this stuff configured considering the scale of the changes that have happened to this point.

There's no point sorting out all the styling on 3.6 and then having to do it again on 3.8.2, so we might as well bite that bullet too.

*End Is Forever*
23-05-2009, 18:58:10
Tried to publish a news item and it failed :(

JM^3
23-05-2009, 19:04:25
It doesn't look as unique anymore.

JM

Asher
23-05-2009, 19:16:07
Seems to be faster. :)

Sirius Black
23-05-2009, 19:23:16
There's no point sorting out all the styling on 3.6 and then having to do it again on 3.8.2, so we might as well bite that bullet too.

:bounce:

Provost Harrison
23-05-2009, 19:44:48
Tried to publish a news item and I failed :(

Corrected.

Resource Consumer
23-05-2009, 22:06:47
Has this changed the forum valuation ?:p

Ignore me - a good idea to separate the constructive and other issues. Thumbs up.

self biased
23-05-2009, 22:41:00
darkfutura is also shit.

devilmunchkin
24-05-2009, 04:27:59
eeee! Bright light! Bright light!


(gremlins reference)

The Management
24-05-2009, 06:59:43
I was going to upgrade the forum again today to 3.8.2, but Nav has no internet at home and I can't work out how to log in to backup the forum database again. I could just risk upgrading without backing up but I know that'd be the one time it all gets shagged up. I might do the next bit of the upgrade one evening next week instead. In the meantime I've improved the default style a bit and made it the default again.

Asher
24-05-2009, 07:12:36
Is the default a variation of http://vbskins.com/theme/blackhead.html ?


I kind of like it

The Management
24-05-2009, 07:16:27
The new default is our old default that it tried to migrate automatically and I've tried to fill in the gaps on all the new stuff.

The Management
24-05-2009, 07:17:16
If there are any free themes like that people want, we can upload them and change the logo so you can use it but I probably can't be bothered doing much else to them.

The Management
24-05-2009, 07:21:07
Things that definitely have to go:

Post counts
IM Icons
"Report this post"
Extremely large icons, uneconomical design with each post having tons of whitespace

Things that are of questionable value:

Huge Poster names
Online button
All the other new bloaty "features"

Other than that, GREAT WORK GUYS!


Post counts - Done
IM Icons - Done
"Report this post" - Hopefully done...
Extremely large icons, uneconomical design with each post having tons of whitespace - not doing until we're at 3.8.2, but will probably tweak then

Huge Poster names - Done
Online button - I quite like it?
All the other new bloaty "features" - Specifically?

The Management
24-05-2009, 07:24:45
Just brought back our old forum icons too.

Funko
24-05-2009, 07:32:11
Right, I'm going back to bed, I think this dark style is pretty good now. Report post is still there, I'll get rid of that next time I'm fiddling. I can get rid of the online icon too if you all want.

Funko
24-05-2009, 07:33:12
Is the default a variation of http://vbskins.com/theme/blackhead.html ?


I kind of like it

Oh but also I've stolen the buttons from futuradark.

Fistandantilus
24-05-2009, 07:56:22
I still se the report post icon?

Funko
24-05-2009, 07:56:47
Yeah, I failed to turn that off. :)

Funko
24-05-2009, 07:57:27
Really going back to bed now.

Fistandantilus
24-05-2009, 07:58:28
You're going to bed at 9 a.m.? :eek:

Dyl Ulenspiegel
24-05-2009, 15:44:40
Please keep the "report post" feature.

Btw, what happens when you report a post?

Resource Consumer
24-05-2009, 17:25:15
I reported one of mine so I'll find out.

Scabrous Birdseed
24-05-2009, 17:30:36
I've started work on a minimal style (thanks for the access, Funko!) and it's pretty tough going - all the style templates are nested in each other in weird ways, some seem missing, some are annotated, some are not, some are done with tables, some with CSS... :clueless:

The front page is starting to be done, admins can check the "Invisible Test Style" if they want.

Oerdin
24-05-2009, 21:55:47
Dark default looks better then darkfutura.

Provost Harrison
24-05-2009, 22:17:47
Darkfutura is a bag of wank.

jsorense
25-05-2009, 00:36:46
THE MANAGEMENT SUXS!but so do i

Greg W
25-05-2009, 04:35:36
Based on the Dark (default) scheme...

First up, on the front page, the forum icons for new posts and no new posts are... words fail me, but... :vom: comes close. I mean, a dark grey square for no posts and a slightly lighter grey square for new posts? :drekkus:

Same with the icons within the forums, except they're even more :vom:...

Not sure if it can be done, but reply boxes that actually scale to screen size. I mean, it can't be that hard, right? :confused:

Do we really need 7 Gasmaske smileys? :gasmaske:

Why do we have the Forum jump box on the right of the screen and the forum colour scheme on the left? Why do we even have a forum colour scheme box on "normal" pages, why isn't it under user options?

Is the Drekkus smiley really supposed to have a fro? Yeah, I know, my fault for always having had a dark background...

All I can think of for now...

Funko
26-05-2009, 07:53:08
Most of those things require significant rework of the templates which, as scabby says, is quite hard.

His invisible test style is actually really good so far.

Funko
26-05-2009, 07:53:47
The forum images I might well look for a better set to drop in from another template

If anyone has a good suggestion for a vbulletin style template with good dark buttons let me know, or if anyone wants to make them... also let me know! :)

King_Ghidra
26-05-2009, 08:13:21
I like it.

I use the light style anyway. Best for work surfing.

Funko
26-05-2009, 08:29:56
One of the new features is that there's a little dropdown at the bottom of every screen where you can pick your style.

Funko
26-05-2009, 08:36:05
Also, are people seeing it faster? I enabled the gzip option so anyone on http1.1 (see your browser settings...) should be getting fairly decent speed increases. Certainly faster for me.

Unregistered
26-05-2009, 08:47:18
It is so fast that it doesn't register.

MOBIUS
26-05-2009, 09:49:38
Good job to the management!:beer:

And Funko as well because he seems to be pretending he worked on it too...

I did my usual whenever there's an upgrade and avoided the site knowing full well that other people would point out the things that needed fixing. Now that I have returned I am very happy overall.:)

Drekkus
26-05-2009, 10:24:47
Like I said in the moan thread: move the 'Forum Jump' button above the quick reply screeny. And switch it with the 'post reply' button so that one goes right and the 'forum jump' one goes left.

protein
26-05-2009, 10:41:25
the good thing about the old forum was that every other post was a different shade. it made things a little easier to see.

also, those grey horizontal lines (like on the front page) made the forum feel like counterglow.

but most importantly, the old posts had a grey icon on the left, the new ones had a gold icon. now they are all yellow. when i scan the page now, i really don't know what's new or not at first glance.

Drekkus
26-05-2009, 10:54:07
:drekkus:

protein
26-05-2009, 11:04:09
if you looked at this thread on the old counterglow, your post background would be a slightly different shade to mine. it broke up the page in a way that made it easy on the eye. it would go light grey, darker grey, light grey...

the small grey horizontal lines as seen on the background here - http://www.counterglow.com/ were an integral part of the counterglow feel.

if you look at this page

http://www.counterglow.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=4

all the icons on the left are the same colour. the old forum had greyed out icons on old posts. the new posts had gold icons. it felt like revisiting a grey room daily and occasionally finding nice new gold nuggets to collect. now old and new posts are the same, the only difference is that the thread title is slightly bolder on new ones.

i can't explain more than that!

Drekkus
26-05-2009, 11:05:21
Ah. In my view (light style), old posts are dark blue, and new posts are yellow.

Funko
26-05-2009, 11:56:29
the good thing about the old forum was that every other post was a different shade. it made things a little easier to see.

also, those grey horizontal lines (like on the front page) made the forum feel like counterglow.

but most importantly, the old posts had a grey icon on the left, the new ones had a gold icon. now they are all yellow. when i scan the page now, i really don't know what's new or not at first glance.

Yep. All good stuff. I think we can sort a lot of that out with a little bit of effort, will try the 3.8.2 upgrade and look at that at the weekend.

Drekkus
26-05-2009, 12:04:53
move the 'Forum Jump' button above the quick reply screeny. And switch it with the 'post reply' button so that one goes right and the 'forum jump' one goes left. :tizzy:

Nav
26-05-2009, 12:17:08
Tried to publish a news item and it failed :(
Too late. Admin system is dead.

Fistandantilus
26-05-2009, 12:28:28
Long live the admin system!

Lurker
26-05-2009, 15:11:15
move the 'Forum Jump' button above the quick reply screeny. And switch it with the 'post reply' button so that one goes right and the 'forum jump' one goes left. :tizzy:

Ahem.

protein
26-05-2009, 15:37:07
Yep. All good stuff. I think we can sort a lot of that out with a little bit of effort, will try the 3.8.2 upgrade and look at that at the weekend.

i feel like i'm complaining, sorry!

good work so far. :beer:

King_Ghidra
26-05-2009, 15:44:43
is search not working or is it me?

if it is me can someone link the michael ricketts thread please

Funko
26-05-2009, 16:31:41
Oh fuck, rebuild the search index.... knew there was something I needed to do. Don't have time now will kick off at home or tomorrow.

Drekkus
27-05-2009, 07:18:05
Ahem.

AHEM

Funko
27-05-2009, 07:52:11
I'm rebuilding the search index. Things might go slow for a bit.

Drekkus
27-05-2009, 08:30:32
Btw, have you replaced the 'forum jump' button to above the Quick reply box already?

Funko
27-05-2009, 08:33:48
Yep.

Drekkus
27-05-2009, 08:35:33
My ceremonial gift budget just got a slight cut...

King_Ghidra
27-05-2009, 08:36:04
i don't know if anyone has said this yet, but there doesn't seem to be a way to change the text below the name. so i'm stuck with 'registered user' for example. I can't remember what it used to be called but it was in the user cp.

Funko
27-05-2009, 09:01:30
Hadn't spotted that. Is it back now?

Fistandantilus
27-05-2009, 09:15:26
It seems to work.

Fistandantilus
27-05-2009, 09:16:18
No it doesn't :(

Fistandantilus
27-05-2009, 09:16:44
It was obviously a trick to :shoot:

Funko
27-05-2009, 09:20:24
Your title now is "Does this work or not?" I'm confused.

Fistandantilus
27-05-2009, 09:24:26
Liar.

Fistandantilus
27-05-2009, 09:28:38
The trick is the 'reset' box has to be unchecked when you set a new title.. it only took me three tries to discover such an obvious thing. So bite me :p

Funko
27-05-2009, 09:28:42
:lol:

Funko
27-05-2009, 09:29:02
AFAIK that hasn't changed, was the same in the old version.

Back!
27-05-2009, 09:58:27
Forum Upgraded - Feedback please

YES!

FEED ME, PLEASE!

:bouncmsk:

http://www.funnymail.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/huge-burger.jpg

Funko
27-05-2009, 10:00:27
New Posts link at the top menu is good.

Funko
27-05-2009, 10:02:17
BTW 2 hours into rebuilding the search index and it's about half way.

Drekkus
27-05-2009, 10:07:01
the who's active box should be on top as well

Back!
27-05-2009, 11:00:14
and the who's passive should be right under it

Fistandantilus
27-05-2009, 11:07:58
Hello KG!

Funko
27-05-2009, 11:12:11
:lol: Exactly what I thought.

Drekkus
27-05-2009, 11:16:12
:lol:

King_Ghidra
27-05-2009, 11:50:25
???

Funko
27-05-2009, 11:53:06
I guess we all think it's the kind of mental leap/comment you'd make.

Funko
27-05-2009, 11:53:28
BTW, I brought the stripy background back.

King_Ghidra
27-05-2009, 12:02:21
I guess we all think it's the kind of mental leap/comment you'd make.

ahh :D

i thought i was being implied as someone on the who's passive list :bash:

Funko
27-05-2009, 12:37:56
I assume the Ricketts thread coming up means search is starting to work? So far it's only indexed 840,000 posts, been running continuously in a browser on my machine for 4 hours.

Tizzy
27-05-2009, 12:39:11
Is it still possible to "hide" on the Currently Active Users list? I can't find an option for it in the User CP

Funko
27-05-2009, 12:48:08
Was turned off, should be back on now.

Tizzy
27-05-2009, 12:50:38
Yay, thanks *hides*

Fistandantilus
27-05-2009, 12:52:07
Damn Lurkers.

King_Ghidra
27-05-2009, 13:44:48
I assume the Ricketts thread coming up means search is starting to work?

Yup. thought i'd chance my arm :)

Lurker
27-05-2009, 14:30:32
What is the setting that makes you return to the forum page once you post in a thread rather than remain in the thread?

Funko
27-05-2009, 14:39:54
Still running... 6 hours so far. Nearly done.

Funko
27-05-2009, 15:16:04
DONE!

Drekkus
27-05-2009, 15:20:46
Ik zeg: DOEN!

Lurker
27-05-2009, 15:23:15
Answer my question you bastards.

mr_B
28-05-2009, 13:19:43
get setting number 3

Funko
28-05-2009, 13:39:55
Answer my question you bastards.

I couldn't find it.

MDA
28-05-2009, 14:53:45
I can post again, so things have improved tremendously.

I'm getting used to it, lots of stuff that was moved around is more conveniently located, once I locate it.

Funko
28-05-2009, 15:02:31
A few people have now told me it's much, much faster which is good.

Lurker
28-05-2009, 16:21:06
I couldn't find it.

Couldn't find my question or the answer?

Funko
28-05-2009, 16:22:12
Couldn't find the option.

Funko
28-05-2009, 16:22:36
I think because the quick reply doesn't reload the whole page now it's kind of irrelevant.

Lurker
28-05-2009, 17:57:23
Huh? Quick reply keeps you in the thread, rather than send you back to the forum page (at least that's what it does for me). What do you mean by "doesn't reload the whole page now"?

Funko
29-05-2009, 07:55:50
I am struggling because I am not sure I know a simpler way to express that.

It just reloads the bit of the page your reply goes into, not the whole page. So it doesn't go back to the server to do a redirect.

Either way, I can't find the option, it might be there buried somewhere...

mr_B
29-05-2009, 08:30:26
chack

mr_B
29-05-2009, 08:30:54
check

mr_B
29-05-2009, 08:31:14
chak

mr_B
29-05-2009, 08:32:19
1. This forum requires that you wait 20 seconds between posts. Please try again in 11 seconds.

Funko
29-05-2009, 08:37:48
Are you complaining? Want me to make it higher?

Funko
29-05-2009, 08:38:08
Do you? My message then said 16 seconds. 8 5 2

mr_B
29-05-2009, 09:00:24
nonono not complaining, I was testing it and thought it was faster
but my chack check chak posts i posted as quick as possible
so I am a very slow poster and due to that I thought you guys made it quicker

waswas

Fistandantilus
29-05-2009, 09:24:58
Unsurprisingly I'm struggling to find a sense in your post mr_B

Tizzy
29-05-2009, 09:27:19
Don't try, just go with it

mr_B
29-05-2009, 09:53:25
fist fist fist
my post was clear as crystal, you could say it was crystal clear

MOBIUS
29-05-2009, 10:06:08
mr_B fisting on CG - whatever next...:eek:

mr_B
29-05-2009, 10:15:13
huh

MOBIUS
29-05-2009, 10:18:38
jesjes

mr_B
29-05-2009, 10:19:42
1. This post is a duplicate of a post that you have posted in the last five minutes.

Funko
29-05-2009, 10:21:36
handy.

mr_B
29-05-2009, 10:24:43
jesjes, kewl new things man, the next rumble will be hard

King_Ghidra
29-05-2009, 10:53:31
only for the weak

mr_B
29-05-2009, 11:02:29
are there strong men posting at a forum?

King_Ghidra
29-05-2009, 11:27:34
ask TCO

Repieter
29-05-2009, 22:35:27
are there strong men posting at a forum?