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alsieboo
22-05-2009, 13:05:42
I've been bored at work a lot lately since they blocked this place, and I've been baaaad. I looked at macs... and thought they're awesome!!!!! Everyone I've asked so far is telling me that I shouldn't go and spend that sort of money on a mac when I could get a 'proper computer 5 times over' instead, and they don't like my reasoning "It's so pretty!!! And it's got a terrabite!!! A terrabite!!!" So they're all trying to talk me out of it, but I'm literally this close to buying one...

This is the shiny things I been looking at (http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac?mco=MTE3MDM)

Any thoughts?

Provost Harrison
22-05-2009, 13:19:18
Holy shit that's expensive! Honestly alsie, don't buy one of the overpriced pieces of turd. They're for sandal-wearing fuckwits who don't know the value of money...seriously. Apple is one of the worst cases of branding I've ever come across. They try and give this whiter than white image. Well we all see that their halo is slipping in recent years.

Don't do it, an utter rip-off!

Venom
22-05-2009, 13:23:29
Macs are for rich elitists who don't know what computers are really for and think iTunes will somehow run better if only their computer also has an apple on it and costs twice as much.

Save yourself the money. An extra thousand bucks is worth a hell of a lot more than looking like a brand whore.

Funko
22-05-2009, 13:35:25
The terrabyte one is 1799? :eek:

Here's an awesome spec uber gaming machine for half the price:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159367

although you'd need a nice 24" monitor.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143848

I would rather have that and 700.

techietone
22-05-2009, 13:39:51
ok Funki sent me a link to this as i think he wants me to answer it cos he knows this is something I rant on about

What do you buy when you buy a Mac is the question you have to ask yourself. in the old days it was non standard system that was very specific and ran mac os that was specificly written of the mac

This is no longer true, now mac are intel based pc's the big claim from Apple now is that Mac can run windows and while this is true the spec of the average mac is far below an average pc so yes it runs windows badly. the mac os is actually FreeBSD dressed up a little. and therefore isn't really that different to Linux. so what do you get that you wouldn't get with a dual boot Windows/Linux PC well a nice shiny case and a apple logo is the answer

what do you get with a Windows/linux PC compaired to a mac, well raw power is the simple answer, also cheaper parts and more options on hardware for half the price

if you really want a flash case buy a sony, more expensive than other brands but cheaper than a mac

Provost Harrison
22-05-2009, 13:53:46
Well consider the Mac well and truly blasted...and Asher hasn't even arrived yet! :lol:

alsieboo
22-05-2009, 14:17:06
Better reasons than "It's shit" :( I'll go find some other really pretty shiny pc instead :(

Provost Harrison
22-05-2009, 14:22:22
Just think how much money we've saved you! I think it is only right that you should spend some of that money taking us all out for drinks :D

protein
22-05-2009, 14:29:12
wait, wait, wait.

what are you using it for?

mr_B
22-05-2009, 14:42:26
imacs makes me horny

techietone
22-05-2009, 14:44:20
oh god here comes the mac user ! lol :P

Provost Harrision thats a damn good idea mines a large vodka and coke please

techietone
22-05-2009, 14:45:38
Originally posted by mr_B
imacs makes me horny

Thats fine if you want a shag but not very helpful when doing some web surfing or sending an email :P

alsieboo
22-05-2009, 14:49:05
Originally posted by protein
wait, wait, wait.

what are you using it for?

I don't need it for anything special, it'd mainly be for watching movies, uploading pics, going on the net, playing the ocassional game. So all that awesome software it has for people who know what they're doing will sit there doing nothing.

Funko
22-05-2009, 15:02:25
And if you want actual game games, the mac doesn't have a great selection.

alsieboo
22-05-2009, 15:04:57
Fucker. I'm having enough trouble trying to play the ones I've got! They seem to hate vista, which is a bit of a shit

Provost Harrison
22-05-2009, 15:07:39
Everyone and everything hates Vista...

alsieboo
22-05-2009, 15:13:32
I think it may be the devils work

Provost Harrison
22-05-2009, 15:25:54
Well Vista is an anagram of devil - if you substitute the s, t and a for an e, d and l.

alsieboo
22-05-2009, 15:44:29
:lol:

techietone
22-05-2009, 15:51:03
i love vista lol

Debaser
22-05-2009, 15:55:20
Get it. Mac's are ace.

Provost Harrison
22-05-2009, 16:08:26
Quiet you :p

Venom
22-05-2009, 16:31:29
There is absolutely no need to get a Mac. Especially when it's going to cost you twice as much.

techietone
22-05-2009, 16:47:22
Originally posted by Debaser
Get it. Mac's are ace.

so quite what are the advantages ?

Scabrous Birdseed
22-05-2009, 17:11:43
It's standard in a lot of creative businesses and (arguably) runs Adobe and Quark products better.

I've used both systems myself and don't mind either. Since the performance of a PC is so much better for the price in general, I'd definitely go for that though, unless funds are unlimited.

Debaser
22-05-2009, 18:05:31
Originally posted by techietone
so quite what are the advantages ?

It. Just. Works.

http://folder.by/hypnotoad.gif

alsieboo
22-05-2009, 21:13:21
Hypnotoad will make me get a mac :(

Resource Consumer
22-05-2009, 21:53:08
Poly was designed to look good on Safari run on a Mac

What else do you need?

protein
23-05-2009, 09:32:48
there are never any hardware conflicts and half as many crashes with macs, which makes them desirable for live use. you won't see many pc laptops on a stage in front of thousands of people.

you'll also find them in many graphics/media/music businesses because they are fashionable and familiar to media types. they are a kind of creative industry standard and music/creative software is often made for macs/mac hardware and then ported over to pc. for example, protools doesn't really work very well on pc.

other than that, they are very expensive for what they do. if you aren't using them for music or to show off, get a pc.

btw, i've got macbook and i run windows xp on it. i won't be getting another mac. i'll be getting a quad laptop running windows 7. when that's affordable.

Provost Harrison
23-05-2009, 10:22:55
So posers and hipsters buy them to look cool but with fuck all knowledge of why.

Indicative of our fake, cooler-than-thou society.

protein
25-05-2009, 17:07:19
no, creative music software such as protools and logic are created for macs. pc versions won't work on most pcs and the ones they do work on you'll get half as many audio tracks and lots of crashes.

pcs have been too unstable to risk running a live concert or audiovisual event. that's true i'm afraid - and i'm a pc person. i only have a mac for some audio applications, most of the time i run it as a pc.

windows 7 might change all this though, that seems to be as solid as a mac.

Asher
27-05-2009, 17:35:30
MacOS X 10.5.7 crashes more on me than Vista or Windows 7 betas.

When I updated to 10.5.4, it took away my clock in the top right even though clock was enabled. I did lots of googling before I found some weird hack to get it back.

Fucking ridiculous.

Provost Harrison
30-05-2009, 10:10:10
Asher, what are you doing using MacOS? Shouldn't a rip in space-time occur when you do that, sucking reality into it?

MOBIUS
02-06-2009, 09:28:12
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer...;)

Resource Consumer
03-06-2009, 21:59:22
no, creative music software such as protools and logic are created for macs. pc versions won't work on most pcs and the ones they do work on you'll get half as many audio tracks and lots of crashes.

pcs have been too unstable to risk running a live concert or audiovisual event. that's true i'm afraid - and i'm a pc person. i only have a mac for some audio applications, most of the time i run it as a pc.

windows 7 might change all this though, that seems to be as solid as a mac.


Protein is a proper "pro" (excuse the word) but I can vouch for the stability of Macs in recording and having sensible and stable software for music.

Ironically (or not, Alanis) things got better when they started building them on Intel chips - Universal Binary really works with plugins etc and now the range is there.

alsieboo
05-06-2009, 18:08:56
Well I caved and bought one, and I fucking love it! It's chick, sexy, sleek, shiny, and omg it's so huge!

mr_B
06-06-2009, 19:19:54
kewl

me jealous

Provost Harrison
07-06-2009, 21:45:23
Well I caved and bought one, and I fucking love it! It's chick, sexy, sleek, shiny, and omg it's so huge!

http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/img/facepalm.jpeg

Greg W
08-06-2009, 02:16:45
Oh Boo... :(

alsieboo
08-06-2009, 18:06:17
I know you're all disappointed in me, but I don't care, I'm in love :love:

Debaser
08-06-2009, 18:24:35
Good for you Alsie. You need to change your "Location" though.

Provost Harrison
10-06-2009, 19:49:59
It's chick, sexy, sleek, shiny, and omg it's so huge!

If I had a penny for every time someone has said that to me ;)

Greg W
11-06-2009, 02:18:48
Then you'd still be poor.

*boom tish*

JM^3
11-06-2009, 02:21:13
They are expensive.

On the otherhand, I have considered getting a macbook myself.

JM

techietone
13-06-2009, 15:16:46
I know you're all disappointed in me, but I don't care, I'm in love :love:


not as disapointed as your going to be when it goes wrong and you get the repair bill

remember a computer is for life not just for christmas

MDA
16-06-2009, 11:23:24
Good for you Alsie. You need to change your "Location" though.


To "underneath Steve Jobs".

Protect yourself, he's been sick lately.

Sir Penguin
01-07-2009, 07:10:26
Apple is racist.

SP

LoD
08-07-2009, 22:12:50
Well I caved and bought one, and I fucking love it! It's chick, sexy, sleek, shiny, and omg it's so huge!

Let me get this straight, were you looking for a computer, or a male prostitute?

Can't blame you 'though - Macs are pretty.